Ok, there are alot of posts to respond to, so for the sake of responding so you might understand, I will address each one of you individually.
Sinfix:
David was the first appointed king of Israel by God Himself. David was held to a higher standard than the rest of society, much like one in power (president of USA) would be today. When he sinned against God he also sinned against the people as he was to lead by example. The punishment of war and bloodshed was that David would not rule a kingdom of peace. He would be stressed and always on alert to threats coming to destroy him.What did God accomplish by punishing David with war and bloodshed? how did he use women in David's life as pawns for such punishment? are people just God's play things to be moved around?
First of all you are implying that every city that was conquered meant every woman was raped. The fact is that they took some of the women in and made them their wives not just some sex toy that they abused and then tossed aside. Yes it is an endless cycle, God blesses people and we sin against Him. The punishment for sin is death, yet God shows us mercy and gives us endless opportunity to turn it around. Much how society treats convicts. Do you believe that instead of someone going in and out of jail that they should be executed after 3 or four felonies? Funny how when we jail these convicts; they serve time to be "rehabilitated", we release them and they break the law again only to be rehabilitated again. We do this endless cycle and are considered "just" yet when God does it you seem He is playing games. That does not seem very rational to me.God gives an army the power to conquer a city, they do, then they take slaves and rape women. Now he's left with a new group of people that he just empowered that need to be punished? Seems like an endless cycle.
I have said it many times before, God does not condone either. For the sake of this becoming an extremely long response I will post the Biblical view of slavery and rape after I respond to blankcd.It being "normal" for a daughter to be sold into slavery doesnt make it right. Why doesnt the bible just address that as being wrong? why isnt slavery and rape condemned in the bible? The daughter accepting this fate doesnt make it right either. To say she would "want" to is a bold statement. You act as if women had any choice about anything in that time period. Of course she wanted to..... over death.
If my family was starving and I could not find work, I would sell myself to slavery that they might be ok. You might say that it is wrong but thats how loyalty and self sacrifice works.
He doesn't have to involve Himself in man's choices to decide their fate. We have free will. He set up the rewards and consequences and gave a guideline on how one is to conduct themselves. Cause and Effect is a natural law my friend. If you sleep with a woman who has aids and you did not use a condom, guess what, you now probably have aids. It's not that David's wives were unloyal to him. They were taken from him in conquest. Everything he held dear was stripped from him.If God doesnt involve himself in man's choices, how did he decide the fate of so many? Why couldnt David's wives chose to be loyal to him?
Excuse me but how can you put the deeds of the few on God? He did not make them sin. Your quote above is like stating that America as a whole had victory in the war in Iraq, some soldiers decided to mock prisoners and take pictures and abuse them. That means that America as a whole is supportive of this and condones it. No sir, that's not how it works. You can very much separate the deeds of men from the powers in charge.You cant play both sides of the fence..... you cant claim that God has a part in all of the victories, then blame man for all of the wrong doing. God's might allowed a city to be conquered, but man's free will allowed women to be raped and slaves to be had, it doesnt work that way.
If you hire a man and he kills my family, you are not to blame....the man is. If you hire a man TO kill my family, then yes you also have fault. God did not instruct the Israeli people to go take a city and rape the women.If i own a business that does house cleaning and i send a murderer to clean your house and he kills your family. That is my fault. If God empowered people to overthrow a city and take slaves and women, then he empowered them to take slaves and rape women. You cant accept the victory without accepting the casualty.
Just because someone or some peoples fly the banner of Christ or Allah or Buddha and start a war does not mean they are fighting for their religion or that god. Many a times they fight in the name of God only to further their own personal lust for power and ambitions. Hitler was supposedly catholic, did God sanction him to slaughter the jews? Do the actions of Islamic Jihadists' mean that every muslim should be feared as a terrorist?How many wars have been fought over religion????
You must not know your history on the crusades. They were in fact a response to muslim raids and invasion for hundreds of years. Check here...History of the CrusadesSo i guess the crusades was the same as christians holding a mobile job fair and going around giving people the option of accepting the terms of christianity?
Slavery is a touchy issue due to the dark history surrounding it. Is slavery wrong, yes. Did it happen, yes. Does is show bad of Gods' character, no. I will show below what the Bible says of slavery.
Not exactly sure what the point of this is? In this scenario I would assume that your neighbor is full of crap and deflowered your daughter and your daughter is scared for her life to tell you the truth.I have a 15 year old daughter. I have always told her that if she has sex before she is married that she will no longer be welcome under my roof and that i will ship her off to boarding school until shes 18 and never speak to her again. She is well aware of this strict punishment that i predetermined. A week ago i find out that my 15 year old daughter is pregnant, but she swears on her life that she has never had sex. My neighbor tells me that it must be a miracle, i think she's just lying to me. What do you think?
You misunderstood the scriptures my friend. David's wives were taken from him, they did not cheat on him.When you say God used David's wives to punish him.... How? How did God have control over David's wives and what they did. God had the power to make David's wives not be loyal to him but he didnt have the power to stop "his" soldiers from raping women?
As you said, you are no Biblical scholar, and you would probably readily admit that you have not read much of it. It is understandable that a lot of it would not make sense to you. I am fine with questions. I am not fine with someone taking a scripture and twisting it or showing it out of context to match their agenda or view.





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