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I don't agree with calling it homophobia. No one is genuinely scared of homosexuals, just call it what it really is. Bigotry and ignorance at this point.

ArachnoPHOBIA, I understand. The right spider could end your life.

No one had a legitimate fear of black people back in the day, it was something that was told to them by their parents and passed down through generations that dark skinned people were less human than whites. Even though we know now thats not the case, it's ingrained into their belief system, so deep in some cases that it's almost. impossible to reverse. So in that respect, I can't fault Nelson for being ignorant about the gay marriage issue. I have to fault his upbringing. If he passes this ignorance down to his children, then I can fault him.

You can be against gay marriage, but that means that you yourself can't get married to a gay person. That in no way shape or form means I can't get married to a gay person. Period.

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So let me get this straight. A mind altering drug should be legal, but 2 guys getting married shouldnt be? Now what is really "dumb as fuck"? Please give me just one way gay marriage affects your life, doesnt even have to be a negative affect, just any effect on your life.




Your homophobia is a sign of your ignorance. Your comfort means shit. Seriously, get over it.

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How is it a "drug" when its a natural plant that grows and the "flower" gets smoked, untouched, unprocessed. Tobacco is a plant that gets processed. So let's label tobacco a drug. 100,000 people die from tobacco related issues a year. Marijuana=0. Marijuana treats over 200 different conditions including insomnia, lack of appetite, depression, etc... with no side effects.
Check your tylenol and aspirin which kill thousands a year from overdose and not just that, check the sideffects which include, stroke, even death from some of these over the counter medicines. YOU CANNOT OVERDOSE from marijuana.

Tests have been performed... and marijuana does not kill braincells like alcohol. THC is not physically addictive (no withdrawal symptoms), tobacco is. Marijuana can become psychologically addictive. Tobacco is addictive, hurts you, and kills thousands a year yet it's legal. If you smoke a gram a night, your lungs have 23+ hours to rejuvenate. Most marijuana smokers will not smoke 15 blunts a day, like cigarrette consumers that smoke a pack a day. Their lungs never have time to rejuvenate.
Alcohol kills thousands a year also from overdose, car wrecks, etc... and impairs your ability to perform worse than weed when drunk, yet it's legal.
You never hear, "he got high and went home and beat his wife up." But, you always hear, "he got drunk and beat his wife up" lmao.

So, what is the issue here? Gov't can't find a way to tax it lol.

BTW, there are MANY MANY successfull people that I personally know that have been smoking weed their whole life. Heck, I know a few old schools, (65+) and they are all healthy.

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the majority of males would feel uncomfortable being next to 2 gay guys doing things. You are just part of the minority.

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I don't agree with calling it homophobia. No one is genuinely scared of homosexuals, just call it what it really is. Bigotry and ignorance at this point.

ArachnoPHOBIA, I understand. The right spider could end your life.

No one had a legitimate fear of black people back in the day, it was something that was told to them by their parents and passed down through generations that dark skinned people were less human than whites. Even though we know now thats not the case, it's ingrained into their belief system, so deep in some cases that it's almost. impossible to reverse. So in that respect, I can't fault Nelson for being ignorant about the gay marriage issue. I have to fault his upbringing. If he passes this ignorance down to his children, then I can fault him.

You can be against gay marriage, but that means that you yourself can't get married to a gay person. That in no way shape or form means I can't get married to a gay person. Period.

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I just don't agree with gay marriage. There's nothing I can do about it but it is something I can never see myself agreeing with.

I think about it this way, if a couple cannot reproduce (pregnancy) or have sex the natural way (vaginal) then something is not right.

I see where you are coming from.

I would like to see your point of view on how you would feel if your son was gay. and wanted to marry another gay. Would you support him 100% or would you just maybe have to accept it unwillingly?

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I just don't agree with gay marriage. There's nothing I can do about it but it is something I can never see myself agreeing with.

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And that is what it is. It's your opinion, not saying its right at all. 60 years ago, people had the same view about interracial marriage equality, and racial equality period. We finally got our head out of our ass and realized that the only consequence of blacks having equal rights is that more people would be happy.

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I think about it this way, if a couple cannot reproduce (pregnancy) or have sex the natural way (vaginal) then something is not right.

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What do you think is not "right" about it? Do you think it's more "right" for a heterosexual couple to be able to produce a child and abort/neglect/mistreat it? What about heterosexual couples that cant produce children, should they not be allowed to get married? A homosexual person is not going to reproduce a child (save for maybe a gay woman w/ in vitro) whether they have equal marriage rights or not.

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I would like to see your point of view on how you would feel if your son was gay. and wanted to marry another gay. Would you support him 100% or would you just maybe have to accept it unwillingly?

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Love is love, period. As long as its a healthy relationship, I couldn't care less who my child chooses to spend the rest of their life with, because that's how I was raised. I was never told that some people's rights should be abridged because their lifestyle didn't match mine.

My question to you is, who/what told you that homosexuality is unnatural and that homosexuals should have less constitutional rights than you?

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the majority of males would feel uncomfortable being next to 2 gay guys doing things. You are just part of the minority.

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Is this something you believe, or is this something that's based on a scientific fact? If it is a scientific fact, please cite your source.

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And that is what it is. It's your opinion, not saying its right at all. 60 years ago, people had the same view about interracial marriage equality, and racial equality period. We finally got our head out of our ass and realized that the only consequence of blacks having equal rights is that more people would be happy.
This is a different situation. Apples and oranges here.

What do you think is not "right" about it? Do you think it's more "right" for a heterosexual couple to be able to produce a child and abort/neglect/mistreat it? What about heterosexual couples that cant produce children, should they not be allowed to get married? A homosexual person is not going to reproduce a child (save for maybe a gay woman w/ in vitro) whether they have equal marriage rights or not.


Love is love, period. As long as its a healthy relationship, I couldn't care less who my child chooses to spend the rest of their life with, because that's how I was raised. I was never told that some people's rights should be abridged because their lifestyle didn't match mine.



My question to you is, who/what told you that homosexuality is unnatural and that homosexuals should have less constitutional rights than you?

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If a heterosexual couple cannot produce children then that't because something is wrong with them, or were born defective, it is not something natural like gay couples. They can't have children PERIOD.

I understand. If you feel that way props to you. If I personally had a gay child, I would try to make him change til the day I died. I have christian beliefs but I know I can't bring that here so i won't. I'll stay away from it.



They should be treated as humans and have right but allowing them to marry is a slap in the face, a joke... That's like bulding christian churches just for the gays... which has been brought up before. That's like slapping christians in the face. It is the same thing.

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Is this something you believe, or is this something that's based on a scientific fact? If it is a scientific fact, please cite your source.

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I don't know one single male that is okay with that. It's not a fact just something I've seen over the years.

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If a heterosexual couple cannot produce children then that't because something is wrong with them, or were born defective, it is not something natural like gay couples

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So then heterosexual couples who can't conceive shouldn't be allowed to get married since its not natural?

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I have christian beliefs but I know I can't bring that here so i won't. I'll stay away from it.

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Typically the basis for most bigotry and hatred.

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but allowing them to marry is a slap in the face, a joke... That's like bulding christian churches just for the gays... which has been brought up before. That's like slapping christians in the face. It is the same thing.

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Im trying to understand this...They should be treated as humans, except for when they want to get married, that's what you're saying?

Gay marriage is a joke to all Christians? It's no surprise why Christianity is actually becoming a joke to more and more humans. Lol. You do know marriage isn't just a Christian institution, right?

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I don't know one single male that is okay with that. It's not a fact just something I've seen over the years.

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I guess you're talking about PDA, in which case Im equally uncomfortable with heterosexual PDA (anything more than hand holding and light kissing). Gay people usually dont suck dick or fuck in public, neither do straight couples, so if you're seeing anything more than two gay guys kissing, you probably went out of your way to see it, which means you wanted to see it.

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So then heterosexual couples who can't conceive shouldn't be allowed to get married since its not natural?

Typically the basis for most bigotry and hatred.



Im trying to understand this...They should be treated as humans, except for when they want to get married, that's what you're saying?

Gay marriage is a joke to all Christians? It's no surprise why Christianity is actually becoming a joke to more and more humans. Lol. You do know marriage isn't just a Christian institution, right?

I guess you're talking about PDA, in which case Im equally uncomfortable with heterosexual PDA (anything more than hand holding and light kissing). Gay people usually dont suck dick or fuck in public, neither do straight couples, so if you're seeing anything more than two gay guys kissing, you probably went out of your way to see it, which means you wanted to see it.

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It is natural... it's like denying someone healthcare because they have cancer. Something has to be wrong females or males arent naturally born sterile 99.9% of the times.

lol you are kind of right about that.

they should have the right to work, shop, spend money, everything we can do.We are not going to treat them like animals, but getting married is something else. They are trying to show the world that 2 gays getting married is something normal and it is not.

and it may not be only christians but name anywhere else 10 years ago where gays were even considered allowed to marry.

and NOOO! lol. I was at a club not a gay club but a regular club and they were hugging, grabbing butt, making out and acting like a 18 year old couple in front of me. I did not look for it nor did I go to see that lol.

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Something has to be wrong females or males arent naturally born sterile 99.9% of the times.

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You would be shocked at the actual number of only females that aren't able to conceive. It's a lot more than 0.1%

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they should have the right to work, shop, spend money, everything we can do.We are not going to treat them like animals, but getting married is something else. They are trying to show the world that 2 gays getting married is something normal and it is not.

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Your definition of normal is still unclear. 20 years ago, it wasn't normal to own a cell phone, 60 years ago, it wasn't normal for black people to marry white people, 80 yrs ago, it wasn't normal for women to vote. 100 yrs ago it wasn't normal to own a car with an engine in it. Biblically? Maybe, but the bible isn't actually normal itself. Couple thousand years ago, it wasn't normal to believe in it. But if we're going this route, should it be ok to federally regulate how people live based on the bible? If so, why favor the bible over other religious texts? Would you be ok with a law that says girls have to be completely covered up all the time because it says it's ok in the Quran? Would you be ok with a law that says guys can get out of rape as long as you marry the girl and pay her dad a couple hundred bucks because it says its ok in the bible?Would you be ok with a law that says its ok to throw big rocks at your kids when they act up because it says so in the bible? In reality, normality is subjective. What's normal for you may not be normal for someone else, and what's not normal for you may be normal for someone else.

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and NOOO! lol. I was at a club not a gay club but a regular club and they were hugging, grabbing butt, making out and acting like a 18 year old couple in front of me. I did not look for it nor did I go to see that lol.

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Do you not get the same feeling when a straight couple does the same thing? When you turned your head to look away, did your comfort level return? Or did you continue to look?

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How is it a "drug" when its a natural plant that grows and the "flower" gets smoked, untouched, unprocessed. Tobacco is a plant that gets processed. So let's label tobacco a drug. 100,000 people die from tobacco related issues a year. Marijuana=0. Marijuana treats over 200 different conditions including insomnia, lack of appetite, depression, etc... with no side effects.
Check your tylenol and aspirin which kill thousands a year from overdose and not just that, check the sideffects which include, stroke, even death from some of these over the counter medicines. YOU CANNOT OVERDOSE from marijuana.

Tests have been performed... and marijuana does not kill braincells like alcohol. THC is not physically addictive (no withdrawal symptoms), tobacco is. Marijuana can become psychologically addictive. Tobacco is addictive, hurts you, and kills thousands a year yet it's legal. If you smoke a gram a night, your lungs have 23+ hours to rejuvenate. Most marijuana smokers will not smoke 15 blunts a day, like cigarrette consumers that smoke a pack a day. Their lungs never have time to rejuvenate.
Alcohol kills thousands a year also from overdose, car wrecks, etc... and impairs your ability to perform worse than weed when drunk, yet it's legal.
You never hear, "he got high and went home and beat his wife up." But, you always hear, "he got drunk and beat his wife up" lmao.

So, what is the issue here? Gov't can't find a way to tax it lol.

BTW, there are MANY MANY successfull people that I personally know that have been smoking weed their whole life. Heck, I know a few old schools, (65+) and they are all healthy.

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I would love to see tobacco outlawed for the exact reasons you noted, wouldnt bother me a bit if alcohol was too, again for the reasons you noted.

At the same time, dont give me that crap about how weed is such a good thing. Most of the 'science' behind its uses is either shady or unprovable. It has been proven that it is mid altering though.

Yes, there are successful people that smoke weed. There are also MANY successful people that shoot up heroin and like to play with 12 year old kids. One has nothing to do with the other.

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the majority of males would feel uncomfortable being next to 2 gay guys doing things. You are just part of the minority.

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Really? Cause I fucked a girl in the same room a gay friend fucked his BF. Didnt bother me a bit.
Check the porn sites, videos of 2 girls going at it are typically pretty popular.

You are actually part of the minority in this case.

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I would love to see tobacco outlawed for the exact reasons you noted, wouldnt bother me a bit if alcohol was too, again for the reasons you noted.

At the same time, dont give me that crap about how weed is such a good thing. Most of the 'science' behind its uses is either shady or unprovable. It has been proven that it is mid altering though.

Yes, there are successful people that smoke weed. There are also MANY successful people that shoot up heroin and like to play with 12 year old kids. One has nothing to do with the other.





Really? Cause I fucked a girl in the same room a gay friend fucked his BF. Didnt bother me a bit.
Check the porn sites, videos of 2 girls going at it are typically pretty popular.

You are actually part of the minority in this case.

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cant argue much about the weed. at least you see what I'm saying. and I'm sorry but none of the guys I know would fuck a girl while his gay friend is fucking a guy lmao that creeps me out.

2 girls is far wayyyyyyy more accepted than 2 guys. Ive had threesomes with 2 girls... I have never caught myself watching gay porn. most guys feel the same way.

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You would be shocked at the actual number of only females that aren't able to conceive. It's a lot more than 0.1%

Your definition of normal is still unclear. 20 years ago, it wasn't normal to own a cell phone, 60 years ago, it wasn't normal for black people to marry white people, 80 yrs ago, it wasn't normal for women to vote. 100 yrs ago it wasn't normal to own a car with an engine in it. Biblically? Maybe, but the bible isn't actually normal itself. Couple thousand years ago, it wasn't normal to believe in it. But if we're going this route, should it be ok to federally regulate how people live based on the bible? If so, why favor the bible over other religious texts? Would you be ok with a law that says girls have to be completely covered up all the time because it says it's ok in the Quran? Would you be ok with a law that says guys can get out of rape as long as you marry the girl and pay her dad a couple hundred bucks because it says its ok in the bible?Would you be ok with a law that says its ok to throw big rocks at your kids when they act up because it says so in the bible? In reality, normality is subjective. What's normal for you may not be normal for someone else, and what's not normal for you may be normal for someone else.

Do you not get the same feeling when a straight couple does the same thing? When you turned your head to look away, did your comfort level return? Or did you continue to look?

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I see what you're saying but again gay and cellphones. apples and oranges. Cars and gays apple and oranges lol. I'm sure you wouldn't like your son to have to take a class in school where hes taught how normal it is to be gay and he has to agree to graduate which is where we are at now in some states.

I looked once and stopped myself from looking in discomfort lol. If I see a heterosexual couple its w.e. It might be a bit too much pda but not to where I'm like... "awww wtf man". you know what i mean lol

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2 girls is far wayyyyyyy more accepted than 2 guys. Ive had threesomes with 2 girls... I have never caught myself watching gay porn. most guys feel the same way.

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So its OK for 2 girls to fuck, but not for 2 guys? You really do make a great ambassador for the christian religion. A religion based on prejudice, exclusion, hypocrisy, and corruption.

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So its OK for 2 girls to fuck, but not for 2 guys? You really do make a great ambassador for the christian religion. A religion based on prejudice, exclusion, hypocrisy, and corruption.

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I'm not christian but I have christian beliefs. My parents are. I never said it was okay for 2 girls to fuck or have sex. I have done it tho. It is also way more common to the common people.
Go to one of your straight friends and say hey does watching two girls turn you on?
now ask him this...
hey can you stay and watch a 3 min video of 2 gay guys fucking? and hear his reponse and you'll see what I'm saying.
I know you feel the same way in both situations don't front lol

They are both equally as bad though. My point being that 2 girls is not viewed as bad as 2 guys by people.

AND I don't hate gays... Some of the nicest people I know are gay, well educated, well mannered, etc... but allowing them to get married? that's pushing it IMO

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hey can you stay and watch a 3 min video of 2 gay guys fucking? and hear his reponse and you'll see what I'm saying.

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If he isnt attracted to men, why would he want to see 2 guys fucking?

If you want a better answer you would ask this question to a woman.

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I know you feel the same way in both situations don't front lol

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I'm not gay, bi, or ever had any questions. It simply has no affect on me. Absolutely nothing in my life changes based on whether or not gays can marry so why should I have any say in their happiness?

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They are both equally as bad though. My point being that 2 girls is not viewed as bad as 2 guys by people.

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There is nothing wrong or bad with either.

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If he isnt attracted to men, why would he want to see 2 guys fucking?

If you want a better answer you would ask this question to a woman.




I'm not gay, bi, or ever had any questions. It simply has no affect on me. Absolutely nothing in my life changes based on whether or not gays can marry so why should I have any say in their happiness?



There is nothing wrong or bad with either.

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That's your opinion I have mine. Now, about the weed, I can pull sources lol this is all opinion based..
most girls get grossed out by thinking of 2 guys.... I've asked a few of my female friends and they have all been against it one way or the other.

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I'm sure you wouldn't like your son to have to take a class in school where hes taught how normal it is to be gay and he has to agree to graduate which is where we are at now in some states.

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I wouldnt want my son to take any class where the teacher forced their beliefs, whatever they are.
If my son were to disagree with facts, like for example: humans aren't the only species that exhibits homosexuality, then yes, I'd want them to fail him.

And trust me, we're not there yet.

you are LOST. California is already printing and making the textbooks. This is a class starting I think next year where it's a graduation requirement.

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/07/ant...sexuality.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2816779/posts

and about California I saw it on the news... look it up you will find it.

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most girls get grossed out by thinking of 2 guys.... I've asked a few of my female friends and they have all been against it one way or the other.

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If this is the case cite your sources. I definitely wouldnt take word of a few girls from west GA as my sample of most women.

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If this is the case cite your sources. I definitely wouldnt take word of a few girls from west GA as my sample of most women.

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lol I see what you did. but a few from west Ga some from ATL... but you are right; again this is opinion based. Ask the females you usually talk to and tell me how it went for you.

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http://www.towleroad.com/2010/07/ant...sexuality.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2816779/posts

and about California I saw it on the news... look it up you will find it.

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I see nothing wrong with the school's response. That article didnt say, but I remember seeing another story about her that said she wanted to be a school councilor. If that is the case, her personal views have absolutely no place in her professional opinion.

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lol I see what you did. but a few from west Ga some from ATL... but you are right; again this is opinion based. Ask the females you usually talk to and tell me how it went for you.

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I actually just did. My friend Jade, said bring it on. Still waiting on Nicole to answer since she is still at work.

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I actually just did. My friend Jade, said bring it on. Still waiting on Nicole to answer since she is still at work.

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lol...
and that was just an example... the whole thing about it becoming a graduation requirement is really true. Textbooks are being made as we speak. it has already been approved

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lol...
and that was just an example... the whole thing about it becoming a graduation requirement is really true. Textbooks are being made as we speak. it has already been approved

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Whats wrong with it being a requirement for councelors to be able to council on subjects they may not agree with personally? This is especially true if they are working in a public school.

In this case I agree with the school. Especially since she wanted to be a councilor. If the girl wanted to continue to deny facts and say that she believed homosexuality was wrong, she should have studied to be in the clergy. Homosexuality is a completely normal expression of sexuality. "Conversion therapy" has no scientific foundation and has been proven to not only not work, but be detrimental to your mental health.

As a matter of fact that brings up the issue about the doctor not too long ago that denied a man his HIV treatment meds because he was gay and the doctor didn't agree with it. The doctor is being sued now

If I went to a doctor of medicine, or a councilor (a doctor of psychology) and they denied me treatment because of my sexuality, the doctor can lose their license to practice.

It is your personal belief that homosexuality is wrong. It is not a fact whatsoever.

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In this case I agree with the school. Especially since she wanted to be a councilor. If the girl wanted to continue to deny facts and say that she believed homosexuality was wrong, she should have studied to be in the clergy. Homosexuality is a completely normal expression of sexuality. "Conversion therapy" has no scientific foundation and has been proven to not only not work, but be detrimental to your mental health.

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And this is coming from a black guy and we all know, at least I have seen the studies that prove it, that blacks are the most anti gay demographic in the country.

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And this is coming from a black guy and we all know, at least I have seen the studies that prove it, that blacks are the most anti gay demographic in the country.

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Well that was totally relevant.

this is where our views differ. To me, since I have a christian background, it is the worst sin in the bible ( only applies if you believe in it)... You guys are atheist so under your eyes there is nothing wrong and I understand that which is why I don't try to convince you that it is wrong. This is the reason why our views on it will always differ. So, gay marriage can only be okay with you if you are not okay with the bible and believe in it, if you try to follow jesus/God/bible, it will never be okay under your eyes. Now you guys see where I'm coming from. That is the reason why I respect everyone's views. Other than it being stated in the bible, there is nothing else that can be said bad about it, except for the negative social stigma it creates. Now you guys should be able to understand me some.

To sum it all up... if you believe in God/Jesus/bible, gay marriage is the worst thing that can ever happen... if you don't follow neither, then gay marriage will be okay for that certain person.

and BTW... I will never be okay with 2 gay guys, but if two cute girls are down for a 3some... I'm all game lmao.

I dont think BanginJimmy is an atheist. He's a conservative, and conservative atheists are unicorns.

I understand it totally. But I can't respect views that promote hatred and ignorance and intolerance at all, and It's not that it's just a different religious view than mine. It's kinda like Hitler's view on Eugenics and the final solution. He had an opinion loosely based on the bible, it was a stupid opinion and I don't respect it at all. I really feel sorry that you're immersed in religious dogma.

And BanginJimmy, any black american person (who's ancestors have been here at least the past 100 yrs) who is against gay equality is an absolute fucking retard.

Nelson, I hope you can at least agree that we should not create laws based on any religious doctrine or if something is "gross" to "normal people" for that matter. If a Christian church does not want to recognize gay marriage, they don't have to but the church also needs to respect that it can't dictate what the state should do. We may be a majority Christian nation but we are definitely not a theocracy.

Also you do realize that your statement that homosexuality is a huge sin is in severe conflict with your excitement towards female homosexuality. This really makes your arguments lack credibility because it appears the real issue for you isn't based on what's right or wrong, it's based on your personal sexual preferences.

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Also you do realize that your statement that homosexuality is a huge sin is in severe conflict with your excitement towards female homosexuality. This really makes your arguments lack credibility because it appears the real issue for you isn't based on what's right or wrong, it's based on your personal sexual preferences.

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That would be what psychologists call "cognitive dissonance"

If religions want a say in the laws that are passed, then churches should start paying taxes. Simple solution.

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That would be what psychologists call "cognitive dissonance"

If religions want a say in the laws that are passed, then churches should start paying taxes. Simple solution.

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I don't agree with this but you are right.

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Nelson, I hope you can at least agree that we should not create laws based on any religious doctrine or if something is "gross" to "normal people" for that matter. If a Christian church does not want to recognize gay marriage, they don't have to but the church also needs to respect that it can't dictate what the state should do. We may be a majority Christian nation but we are definitely not a theocracy.

Also you do realize that your statement that homosexuality is a huge sin is in severe conflict with your excitement towards female homosexuality. This really makes your arguments lack credibility because it appears the real issue for you isn't based on what's right or wrong, it's based on your personal sexual preferences.

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I see what you are saying and you are right. Laws should not be created based on religious views... But America has always been "under God." You see what I'm saying?

And I know 2 females is just as wrong as two guys... they are both just as big of a sin (if you believe in the bible like I stated earlier).

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You know what assume stands for?

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I understand it totally. But I can't respect views that promote hatred and ignorance and intolerance at all, and It's not that it's just a different religious view than mine. It's kinda like Hitler's view on Eugenics and the final solution. He had an opinion loosely based on the bible, it was a stupid opinion and I don't respect it at all. I really feel sorry that you're immersed in religious dogma.

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Couldnt agree more.

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And BanginJimmy, any black american person (who's ancestors have been here at least the past 100 yrs) who is against gay equality is an absolute fucking retard.

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I agree, but MANY polls and studies have shown that to be true. I honestly dont understand it. You would think a group that has been so harshly discriminated against would be at the forefront on any equal rights issue.

You would think, but there's still a lot of head-ass removal that needs to take place.

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Originally Posted by .blank cd

You would think, but there's still a lot of head-ass removal that needs to take place.

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Something we are in complete agreement about.

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But America has always been "under God." You see what I'm saying?

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What do you mean "America has always been 'under god'"?

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What do you mean "America has always been 'under god'"?

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance

;) Before anyone is retarded enough to reference this.

there you go lol