You offer no facts that back this up, its an opinion and a massive generalization.
So again, you would rather we dictate how people spend their money how you see fit
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You offer no facts that back this up, its an opinion and a massive generalization.
So again, you would rather we dictate how people spend their money how you see fit
Healthcare is a business so of course it is run for profit.
By education I guess you mean college? If so, the profit margin for public schools is razor thin. Private schools are a business so of course they make a profit. If you don't like private school prices don't go there.
Energy is a business. In regards to gasoline, the govt males more off a gallon of gas than the oil companies.
If you want tojust talk about natural gas in homes, I typically paythe govt mandated monopoly AGL close to double what I am paying for the gas I use.
BTW what's wrong with making a profit?
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I hope you really don't believe that. Lol. As someone that used to be privy to gasoline information, I can tell you that's not the case. Especially for vertically integrated companies, or companies that own the whole process from the ground to your tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
What's wrong with making a profit? Nothing's wrong with making a profit. Maybe you mean to ask whats wrong with paying 4/gal for gasoline or 50k to fix a broken leg?
Doesnt it seem strange that conservatives have this attitude that if you can't afford it, just don't buy it/pay for it? Let's look at it from the other side. If you were dying and I have the only dose of meds that will save your life, and your insurance doesn't cover it and you have to pay $50k, what's the problem if I wanna
make a $49,990 profit?
your anaology, like always , is flawed.
You assume the the Dr. got the meds for free and only cost him a $1. Who decides what is too much profit and whats not? you? Govt? makes no sense.
you guys advocate like you want everyone to have a heart, but literally have zero idea how a business actually works. Healthcare is probably something you cant really argue because its so big an complicated it would take us 1032010931029301 pages to even begin to understand it.
But, traditionally OIL COMPANIES make 9%. Thats it. No more no less. Prices go up, they raise their prices, costs go down, gas goes down. They are in business to make 9% profit margin when they sell their gasoline. No matter what the cost to them is, they will keep it at 9% year in year out. For comparison sake, google made 25% profit margin last year, should be demonize them too?
Energy is a business that routinely creates jobs, rewards the share holders, increases wages for their workers, and makes a9% (hardly a huge margin) when they probably could make 20% without blinking an eye.
The flipside of your argument is, what if you get your way and all the venture capitalists decide "fuck it, we arent going to invest in these new drugs and reasearch and development and we will just forget it" and your miracle drug is never found?>
I REALLY wish someone had the balls to call the left on its bullshit propaganda and shut down all their businesses for 2 months, and let people starve and go under on principle. Just to show them how bad it is for this current culture to think they can feel entitled to someone elses hard work and wealth.
Well no matter what the system will never be perfect, and it is impossible to make everyone happy. By it's very nature, capitalism is inherently flawed and to have successful people there must be many more people on the "bottom" working menial jobs. You have to have both, the poor and the rich.
VtecKid, you're right about a lot of things, but I guess it would be easier to imagine it this way. If your wife or child had cancer and it bankrupted you, you might have a slightly different disposition. Sure there is nothing wrong with profit, I believe people who bust their ass to make a successful business deserve every cent but it's hard to draw the line and differentiate profit and taking advantage of peoples lives.
Back on point, I just want a government that refuses deficit spending, reduces our debt, stops fighting unnecessary wars, and finally to stop regulating our lives so much. Example: SOPA and PIPA.....the government attempt to try to censor the internet....which is bullshit.
It goes back to my core belief
I'd rather live in a world where I can have the opportunity to be rich on my own and live and die by my consequences
Than in a world where someone else's tries to tell me what to do according to their point of view.
http://www.dailymarkets.com/economy/...it-per-gallon/
This guy disagrees with you. I believe him more than I believe you.
Gas right now is about $3.35 a gal. Oil is currently $101 a barrel with 42 gallons per barrel meaning the oil that will eventually be refined into gas is $2.40 a gallon. Then you have ~$0.48 in assorted taxes and you are up to 2.88 a gallon. That leaves $0.47 a gallon for the oil company profit, refiner, marketing, gas station, and distribution. Somehow, even without all of those other costs, you still think oil companies are making more profit than the govt? Obviously, your knowledge is in some way lacking. Maybe this is why you USED to be privy to the info.
Gas prices are tied to futures prices, which are tied to production and demand, which is tied to any number of things.
A broken leg also has many associated costs that really have nothing to do with your leg. Rising malpractice insurance for doctors, pharmaceuticals, and hospitals. The growing lag in medicare/medicaid payments as compared to actual costs. Again, there are dozens of other factors also included.
Doesnt it seem strange that conservatives have this attitude that if you can't afford it, just don't buy it/pay for it? Let's look at it from the other side. If you were dying and I have the only dose of meds that will save your life, and your insurance doesn't cover it and you have to pay $50k, what's the problem if I wanna make a $49,990 profit?[/QUOTE]
If you have the only dose, then I would say I am paying what the market dictates is the price.