Arizona immigration law....

[BanginJimmy]

We must be talking in circles around each other. Being able to consider such general traits as legitimate "probable cause" is different from now. Name one other law where race can even be considered a part of probable cause. Robbery? Murder? Rape? No, No, No.

Every immigration law brings race into the question. Again, you are acting like race is the only criteria used but it isnt.

Well in that case, could you please point me to where in the constitution it says the federal government can delare substances illegal? Or are you trying to say that the FEDERAL Controlled Substance Act is not a federal law?

What does this have to do with immigration? You are the one that brought up illegal drugs, not me.

Then AZ should sue the federal government. That is the appropriate response. And the federal government doesn't have to prove they are impeding anything. If they say the state is impeding them on something that is federal jurisdiction, that's all the have to do.

Look at reality here. A suit against the federal govt would have to go all the way to the Supreme Court to have any chance at federal action. You have the judge that knocked this law down would have thrown it out, then we all know the HIGHLY liberal 9th Circus would have also thrown it out. Both of these would have been thrown out for purely ideological reasons and with little to no basis in law.

I think the federal government should be enforcing them unless they ask for the state's help...period. It's a pretty simple concept called division of responsibilities. I already stated what to do if the fed isn't enforcing the law.

Well now we have this law and the fes still arent doing anything. In fact, they are working behind closed doors to find a way to grant a blanket amnesty without going through congress.

I don't actually support the impractical examples I gave, I was just saying that they would be more just. The VAST majority of illegal immigrants in AZ are Latino. I never claimed otherwise so please don't act like I did. The point is, you don't punish ALL Latino's for it. Just like my IRS example. If 95% of tax fraud is perpetrated by rich whites, that doesn't mean you start only auditing rich whites. I don't care how effective it is, it is morally reprehensable to me.

The only people that would be punished are those that are breaking the law. You want to toe the Obama line that would make you think that just being latino means you would be arrested on the spot, but anyone with at least a little common sense knows better.

Obviously we have different morals. Your's say, do whatever it takes, mine say the end doesn't justify the means.

Wrong, I dont believe the ends justifies the means in this case. I believe in a common sense approach to things, not basing all of my morals on political correctness.