What have Republicans accomplished? Obstruction just cause you oppose politically is hardly an accomplishment btw. Just curious.
In the past year
What have Republicans accomplished? Obstruction just cause you oppose politically is hardly an accomplishment btw. Just curious.
They stopped the healthcare bill. That is enough for me.
Dems had a filibuster proof majority, you can thank them for stopping health care reform, not Republicans.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
quit with your propaganda for christs sake. Glenn Beck never said anything remotely close to that.
Id rather come up with a way that really WORKS to let people AFFORD their OWN healthcare , than the govt blindly trying to give it to everyone with no way to pay for it.
Ive always said the OBAMACARE would give you healthcare at the EXPENSE of your job. Seems you still dont understand that.
And please stop with the 46million crap, its not that high. 15 million are peope pASSING through the system and drop coverage between jobs or a lapse of 1-3 months.
5 million are people that CAN AFFORD HEALTHCARE but refuse it.
12-18 million are illegal immigrants who dont deserve govt taxpayer funded healthcare in the first place.
So you are left with less than 15 million who REALLY CANNOT AFFORD healthcare or choose not to pay for it.
5% of our nation doesnt have healthcare. LETS REVAMP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM because 5% are lacking. Hell even if you use 46million people its 15% of our population WITHOUT HEALTHCARE.
Instead of GIVING it away, how about making the poor able to afford it by getting them jobs or better training to make more money.
You would rather make the rich pooorer than the poor rich
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Beat me to the 46mil line. I would say the real number is even lower than your numbers though. I would guess it is somewhere between 7-10mil.
every time you post i feel like just reading it i lost 5 I.Q. points
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no instead we will be required to buy some form of insurance or be fined or go to jail for not having it. it's insurance reform is all it is and that was what was gonna happen from the beggining. 46 million times say $100/mo = huge profits for them.
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The Republicans have not accomplished anything of value in the last year.
The Democrats have not accomplished anything of value in the last year.
The difference is that the Democrats controlled Congress, and had the White House. That speaks volumes about the quality of their Congressional leadership abilities.
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I think the Republicans lack real ideas. They need a "newt gingrich" type guy to really challenge and be proactive with the Dems and President. Boehner needs to really step it up IMO.
Dems are all over the place. They had power but were not consolidated. They tried to do too much
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This!
Rich...Bob...Stan...?????
I keep forgetting that you guys all think the US census is government tyranny and that all numbers have to be verified by Rupert Murdoch before they are acceptable.
The part about Glenn Beck was a little humor. You redwingers err... right wingers I mean... can dish it out but you can't take it.
As far as leadership goes the GOP doesn't have any. Bohener and Jindal lack charisma, Michael Steele comes across as a mean spirited asshole, and Palin's petite little hands are just not big enough to write all the party's talking points on. Moderates like Colin Powell get pushed aside while loudmouths like Joe Wilson and Michelle Bachmann are given favor. I don't think we will ever have another Teddy Roosevelt or Barry Goldwater as long as the party is actively courting the lowest common denominator with this "tea party" nonsense.
Not sure what the census has to do with it, but the numbers Obama has been reading are wrong, just like the stories he likes to tell.
I actually agree with you here. The leadership as a whole is gone in Washington. It starts with the top and encompasses both parties though. I cant think of a single ranking politician in Washington that has even the slightest clue what they are doing. Obama, Pelosi and Reid are all ideologues and cannot see further than their own overinflated ego to actually see what anyone in this country wants.
I agree on this as well. Both parties are not representing the people in the middle.
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The numbers are wrong blender. Go watch any video collage of Obama and watch how the numbers change.
Statistics are skewed to highlight his agenda.
Are you telling me 46 million american citizens are without healthcare?
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Its just a setup for the upcoming elections. They are the party of no right now. They can't come up with their own ideas, so the plan is to say no to everything that Obama and the dems come up with to save face. The problem with that is they are suppose to shut up and let the dems fall on their face, but they just can't seem to do that because they have to add their two cents when it really wasn't needed. Oh yea and the tea party movement won't help the republican efforts it just splitting them in two.
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The tea party is not a GOP movement it's more independents than republican. The tea party will help as it is damaging to dems and only helps the republicans as it's a
more conservative leaning movement
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The tea party is laughable bullshit. Half those idiots have no idea what is going on other than they disapprove of Obama because they think he's a Kenyan Muslim with a fake birth certificate.
Every time I read your posts, I find errors in punctuation and capitalization. If you're attempting to criticize someone's intelligence, at least fucking get basic 3rd grade grammar right.
HAHAHAHAHA. Ok. Since this is the internet and it's "serious business", I'll step up from my normal "3rd grade grammar". You have to be one of the most short sighted ignorant people I have ever had the displeasure of having to read posts from.The tea party is laughable bullshit. Half those idiots have no idea what is going on other than they disapprove of Obama because they think he's a Kenyan Muslim with a fake birth certificate.
Every time I read your posts, I find errors in punctuation and capitalization. If you're attempting to criticize someone's intelligence, at least fucking get basic 3rd grade grammar right.
You seem to have this opinion of anyone who doesn't worship the ground that the Left Wing political agenda is "they think he's a Kenyan Muslim with a fake birth certificate.". Sorry but the contrary is true. Yes, there is a great number of people who do feel that way but anyone who actually takes 20 minutes to watch more than one news organization talk about the issues think a little bit more than what you seem to think, that they think. Some of us are actually capable of forming independent thoughts and opinions and it just so happens that those of us that can, agree with one side or another.
You on the other hand, can't seem to comprehend that and instead choose to believe that anyone from a differing opinion from yours is incompetent.
And before you go judging a book by it's cover, you might want to know that I am actually a Junior at Kennesaw State University with a major in Political Science with a concentration in Legal Studies.
But hey, what do I know. I'm just some pinko right wing fanatic with the grammar skills of a 3rd grader. Oh wait.....I'm not.
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Hooray for you, since you want applause for that. Even Sarah Palin graduated from college with a degree in - wait for it - Journalism. Having a college degree alone does not prove one's capacity for original thought or leadership, nor does it prove that one is erudite. College is more like a survey that prepares one for scholarship rather than the sum, total, and proof that one is a scholar. I know a lot of college graduates who have neither read a book from start to finish nor even set foot into a library..
And before you go judging a book by it's cover, you might want to know that I am actually a Junior at Kennesaw State University with a major in Political Science with a concentration in Legal Studies.
But hey, what do I know. I'm just some pinko right wing fanatic with the grammar skills of a 3rd grader
Pinko, by the way, is a derogatory term for left wing people:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinko
I would think you'd get that right since you're Mr. Red GT Political Science Junior at Kennesaw State Esq.
A derogatory term for you to choose for yourself might have been:
Nut Job
Redneck
Whitebread
Bible Thumper
Nazi
Teabagger
Out of all that the best you could do was point out that I used the wrong derogatory term. Forgive me I've only been up for 96 hours straight and posted that at 2:30 in the morning.
Nut Job? Nope sorry. I've been told I'm an asshole.
Redneck? Nope sorry wrong again. Lived in 3 different countries 4 states while my Dad served this country honorably for 10 years as an officer in the United States Army.
White bread? Yes I'm white. What of it?
Bible Thumper?. I think organized religion has lost its meaning. Haven't stepped foot in a church since a friend of mines Dad died.
Nazi? Wrong again. Grandfather was a member of the RAF.
Teabagger? Now that I will admit to. Can't say I don't have my balls sucked and licked on every once in awhile.
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C'mon now, tell me you dont believe this. The Tea Party movement only bolsters Democratic support, Palin is their unofficial spokesperson. Look, if there is one thing that Republicans haven't learned from their recent loss is that moving farther right isn't the answer. The fact that Palin is a legitimate candidate (and probably the most polarizing for the Republican party) shows the status of the GOP.
I would laugh uncontrollably if Palin was nominated, fortunately it probably wont happen.
The thing is, neither party has accomplished anything in the past year and it will continue to be that way for a while. Possibly forever.
You've demonstrated time and time again you have no idea nor actually watch read or comprehend anything on the right side of the aisle
you spew olberman talking points and lack the comprehension to even articulate a rational argument.
All you see is the liberal left blog posts you refuse to look at the other side.
Peoples right to assembly, protesting big govt, socialism, higher taxes, and govt policy is laughable bullshit? Figures it would be to a liberal zealot , you guys trample enough on the constitution as it is.
I'm going to challenge you:
sit through a Glenn beck episode I'll watch the same one. TiVo it. At the end you tell me where he's wrong or he's in the tank for the GOP
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That's what I thought
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Its people like Blender that gave rise to Hitler, Mao, Castro, Lenin, and many others. He believes only in the Party and sees no reason to justify or corroborate anything he says. Quick to throw insults and whenever challenged, he deflects with further insults. Hitler and Lenin used the failings of their predecessors, to go along with bringing the nation back to prominence, as their main talking points. This is exactly the same mantra Obama has been using into his second year in office. Every failing is Bush's or the GOP's fault. Every lie is deflected or simply ignored. Will it ever stop? Will he ever take responsibility for his own failings? Will he ever realize that he agenda is not what people want? Judging from his State of the Union speech, I seriously doubt it.
So the number when you account for non-citizens is 36 million. That's still a whole lot of people without insurance. You can also see how the lower incomes are most of those who are uninsured.. He believes only in the Party and sees no reason to justify or corroborate anything he says..
http://www.gallup.com/poll/121820/on...insurance.aspx
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-about-46-mil/
Here is the US census survey used to get those numbers:
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/hlthinsseq.pdf
I've posted many times about my disagreements on Obama's policies, but you guys are all too busy teabagging one another to really pay attention.
Next you have to remove the people that choose not npot have health insurance and people with existing conditions that basicly bar them from coverage.
Lower income people will be more represented because low income people have low end jobs that rarely offer those benefits.
I will comment further when I get to a computer and can see the info on your links.
I've always said you can't legislate CHOICE.
Where does it stop? The govt (in new York) want to take salt off the table because it causes too many health issues, but alcohol and smoking, no problem let's leave those.
The market sets the price for insurance, not the govt. What we should be doing is concentrating the outside factors that drive costs up, such as tort reform, allowing
more private sector competition like buying across state lines, getting rid of pre-existing conditions clauses, allowing people to buy catastrophic insurace only, giving tax credits to people or busiensses that offer health care etc.
iNSTEAD we want to make it a right, have no way To pay for it, and instead of working on increasing the peoples wages who CANT afford it, you want to cripple the system in a takeover to make it free to those.
Again it's nothing more than a power play you'd rather make the rich poorer instead of the poor richer.
Even then anyone that wants healthcare can get it.
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I went through a period in my life when i was 19 or so. I paid rent, only made 8 bucks an hour (which is just barely above min wage now). Still managed to afford health insurance which was only 60 bucks a month. It wasnt the best coverage, however it did cover me in the event of an emergency. Now i have a much better job, and health insurance through my work. Still have to pay over 100 bucks a month to insurance, and I havent been sick in 3 years. But I make that sacrifice because in the event that something does happen. I will need it. People in America need to quit looking for handouts from the government and start earning their own. That is what the country was built off, the pursuit of happiness. Not the Pursuit of handouts.
True there has to be a way to allow insurance for things over $1000 versus $40 checkup.
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I hate to equate it to car insurance but if you have a $1000 deductible and you do $500 in damage to your car, you pay out of pocket.
The difference or problem lies with you can wait 2-3 year to fix your car (cosmetic damage) with your health that could mean you die. What if you really don't have $500 to pay for your doctor visit? You can throw a car away can't throw a life away
has to be some sort of middle ground to service both customers
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With car insurance, you have the option to choose what deductible you have. A lower deductible mean higher monthly payments. Insurance is a risk management industry.
You can have the same option with health insurance. You choose what risk level that you can afford.
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theres no need for print newspaper anymore, more information can be found online IMO
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Perhaps not a print newspaper, but theres always a need for the local, independent, and de-centralized news and op-ed content that only newspaper can provide.
If you use Fox online you're getting the same Murdoch-approved crap they broadcast on TV. The WSJ is also part of the Murdoch empire, as is the New York Post and HarperCollins publishing (publishers of Going Rogue).
Blender, the same can be said of the New York Times, Washington Post, Boston Globe and dozens of other papers. They are all heavily slanted towards the liberal agenda and most of those papers are are dem donors.
The simple fact is that there isn't a single major media outlet in this country that doesn't show a bias. Some are obviously worse than others and show a definite bias in both their commentary and news, the most obvious is MSNBC. Fox is obviously leaning right in its commentary but their actual news shows are far closer to centric than you will find in any newspaper or other cable news channel.
BBC, and PBS News tend to minimize the bias.
I get a lot of general info from BBC and Reuters. I havent found them to get much into specifics though on political issues.
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