Obama Addresses the Students....

[tony]

I dont understand why race keeps popping up. You have the Gov of New Jersey claiming that he is losing the race there because the media hates blacks, and that the media will turn on Obama next. Yes, I am talking about the same media that cream their pants whenever Obama speaks.

I believe Rangle has brought up how anyone opposing Obama is a racist.

You had the guy on MSNBC that said socialist was a republican code word for he "n word".

When is it going to stop? Some blacks are using the claim of racism as a crutch. Until society as a whole refuses to accept that, it will never end.


I dont have the link and I am not looking for it again so dont ask. I read an article from Seattle yesterday that had to do with race. A black guy who I will assume is younger said that racism was everywhere in Seattle. He brought up a case where him and a few friends were talking down the street one night and a white lady crossed the street to avoid them.

To this guy I say, if you dont like the stereotype of groups of young black males, what are you doing to change that negative perception? The reason people avoid groups of young black males at night is because groups of young black males are about 10x more likely to commit a felony than a group of young white males. Need proof? just look at the robberies at GT downtown.

When you broil it down race is still there, it is an underlying issue and people seem to think because it is not in your face it does not exist. Is the perception that blacks are a certain way because of the robberies at GT or is it because you would be hard pressed to turn on the TV and see blacks represented in a positive light?

That question does not only pertain to blacks, it applies to hispanics being portrayed as Illegal Immigrants, the perception of interracial couples, the list goes on and on. I'd challenge anyone to take a course on Race and Ethnicity with an open mind, I'll admit even I overlooked a lot of social issues pertaining to race in our society.. and I figured myself to be quite aware.

I could sit here and explain a lot of things but it turns into an endless back and forth. This is no dig to you or anyone else but it is hard to grasp and kind of an uncomfortable subject if you are not the one who is subject to prejudice. It takes a level of objectivity that is far above the norm to sit down and really understand the issue of race rather than view the surface and nothing more.

[BanginJimmy]

When you broil it down race is still there, it is an underlying issue and people seem to think because it is not in your face it does not exist. Is the perception that blacks are a certain way because of the robberies at GT or is it because you would be hard pressed to turn on the TV and see blacks represented in a positive light?

Thats the problem. I cant think of the last time I really saw blacks as a group being portrayed in a positive light. Whether it be the movies, the news, or just around town. As far as the news goes, the blame for that falls squarely on them.

That question does not only pertain to blacks, it applies to hispanics being portrayed as Illegal Immigrants, the perception of interracial couples, the list goes on and on.

it applies to all racial groups. If you are walking down the street at night along and a group of white kids with combat boots, shaved hears and black suspenders are coming towards you. Are you going to walk right to them, or cross the street?

I'd challenge anyone to take a course on Race and Ethnicity with an open mind, I'll admit even I overlooked a lot of social issues pertaining to race in our society.. and I figured myself to be quite aware.

That class just reeks of an "african american studies" class. I can pretty much sum up that class with 2 words. Blame Whitey. Just look at the quality of people you have teaching it. Great people like Professor Gates come to mind.

I could sit here and explain a lot of things but it turns into an endless back and forth. This is no dig to you or anyone else but it is hard to grasp and kind of an uncomfortable subject if you are not the one who is subject to prejudice. It takes a level of objectivity that is far above the norm to sit down and really understand the issue of race rather than view the surface and nothing more.

Then I will only say that until the phrase "black man in America" goes away, there will always be the black man in America.

[tony]

That class just reeks of an "african american studies" class. I can pretty much sum up that class with 2 words. Blame Whitey. Just look at the quality of people you have teaching it. Great people like Professor Gates come to mind.



Then I will only say that until the phrase "black man in America" goes away, there will always be the black man in America.

If you think African American studies is all about blaming white people then continue to bask in your ignorance, I mean it is bliss right? Thats like saying researching the strife of Native Americans is demonizing whites, truth hurts but that is our history.

And yes there always will be a "black man in America," strange how you'd want someone to deny who they are just to be called "American" without recognition of their heritage or identity. Being black is a part of who I am, is that racist? No, its called pride.

[BanginJimmy]

If you think African American studies is all about blaming white people then continue to bask in your ignorance, I mean it is bliss right? Thats like saying researching the strife of Native Americans is demonizing whites, truth hurts but that is our history.

And yes there always will be a "black man in America," strange how you'd want someone to deny who they are just to be called "American" without recognition of their heritage or identity. Being black is a part of who I am, is that racist? No, its called pride.

Here is something that I am sure are not in any AA studies books out there.
Black slave owners were the cruelest slave owners. I doubt there is any mention of black slave owners at all.

I am sure they cover all of the horid ways slaves were treated. How do they teach the circumstance of them being captured though? Do they say they are kidnapped, or do they say they were sold by tribal leaders for guns and tobbacco?

The black man comment obviously went over your head.

[tony]

Here is something that I am sure are not in any AA studies books out there.
Black slave owners were the cruelest slave owners. I doubt there is any mention of black slave owners at all.

I find it funny that YOU would comment on how slaves were treated and who did what. I don't claim to know what my ancestors went through, I can only empathize, read and try to gain a decent understanding. Now, I would love to see the supporting facts and information that shows black slave owners were more cruel than whites, especially when the harsh treatment of black slaves went largely undocumented.

lol This is entertaining, even in slavery you want to point the finger at blacks then wonder why race is still an issue in this country. To answer your question, yes African American studies does take the time to point out that slavery did not start here with white men, but I guess since you dismiss the class as blame whitey you wouldn't know that.

[AirMax95]

Here is something that I am sure are not in any AA studies books out there.
Black slave owners were the cruelest slave owners. I doubt there is any mention of black slave owners at all.
I am sure they cover all of the horid ways slaves were treated. How do they teach the circumstance of them being captured though? Do they say they are kidnapped, or do they say they were sold by tribal leaders for guns and tobbacco?

The black man comment obviously went over your head.

Your doubt is wrong beyond belief. Have you taken ANY classes of the sort, or are you assuming b/c you "feel" they don't?

All classes on African American studies address every nook and cranny of the slave trades. These classes also incorporate the positive that SOME whites did at the time to combat the slave trade.

Stop fucking assuming based off the bullshit you read man. You ride the race pole like $5 stripper at Pinups trying to make rent.

[bigdare23]

This post shows ignorance at its best.

Thats the problem. I cant think of the last time I really saw blacks as a group being portrayed in a positive light. Whether it be the movies, the news, or just around town. As far as the news goes, the blame for that falls squarely on them.

That's straight bull shit. The media picks and choose the stories to air. What do you think will get more ratings, Georgia Tech just graduating it's largest class of blacks recieving ph.Ds in engineering, or someone just got robbed on at a gas station in Bankhead? The media is bias, but you're white and closed-minded so you don't see it.

it applies to all racial groups. If you are walking down the street at night along and a group of white kids with combat boots, shaved hears and black suspenders are coming towards you. Are you going to walk right to them, or cross the street?

That's a extreme example. Skin heads do not equal the typical black person. Some whites would cross the street if the African Americas were wearing slacks and a sports coat. I had whites cross the street while walking toward me, and I had on a polo shirt tucked in some nicely fitted jeans, and a book bag on (and I might add a clean hair shave and cut). It all falls back to the media. Since the media portrays the typical criminal as a hooded black man, all black males feels the repercussions.

That class just reeks of an "african american studies" class. I can pretty much sum up that class with 2 words. Blame Whitey. Just look at the quality of people you have teaching it. Great people like Professor Gates
come to mind.

What is you level of education? Do you have degrees? If so, where did you get your degree from? Or are you one of those people born and raised in the south. I ask that because you seem greatly out of touch. So let me inform you. Most race classes are talk by "whitey" (since majority of sociology professors are white). That class is taught to enlighten people closed-minded people such as yourself, about the racial problems of today. The point of the class is not to blame the problems on a particular race, but to come solutions to the problems. The focus is not just on blacks, but on the topic of inequality with all races. My advise to you is not to speak on a subject if you don't know anything about it. Also, if you have taken a race class before, please go back and slap you professor.