Where do you see Obama getting blamed for anything bush did? Hell Bush's was was in Iraq, Obama is pushing the war in Afganastan(sp)!Originally Posted by Total_Blender
Where do you see Obama getting blamed for anything bush did? Hell Bush's was was in Iraq, Obama is pushing the war in Afganastan(sp)!Originally Posted by Total_Blender
You don't follow history do you? You are one of these new age historians, that thinks history started and things got bad when Obama was elected.Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
Let me inform you of something twinkletoes, blame BUSH SR for Afghanistan. The country actually was headed towards democracy WITHOUT our help, including womens rights and moving more Western in idiologies. When the Soviets tried to muscle in, well we supported...
Osama...
Thats right, we gave millions and arms to Osama as a "freedom fighter". Millions of Afghan citizens died and we can't fathom that. We can't fathom Mexico fighting Canada and millions of Americans dying.
OUr great govt backdoored their way to fight war in Afghanastan. If you don't want to read, at least watch "Charlie Wilson's War" on T.V.
Well after "we" beat the Soviets we claimed "victory" packed out shit and left.
We did not help establish ANYTHING. We stopped giving a fuck b/c we beat the USSR, you know that evil country. That country that no longer exists....
So it was RIPE for someone to come in and develop and take control and the TALIBAN did. They only RECENTLY gained power. They hate us b/c we turned our backs when it was time to rebuild then we started calling them terrorists.
Afghanistan IS the problem it NEVER was Iraq. There was NO TALIBAN STRONGHOLD IN IRAQ.
Obama is going after the REAL PROBLEM, not fooling Americans into going into Iraq so that SOB could get re-elected. Every intel has now said Iraq had no WMD, it should not have been done and even Bush apologized.
Facts> your biased opinion
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LOL at this! Forget about Sadam?Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
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But we should have left Iraq years ago after Saddam was gone right? Maybe if people didnt have their head so far up their ass they would see that Bush's policies actually worked.Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
FACT: 1/3 of all deaths in Iraq were NOT combat deaths like CNN would like you to believe. These were people that killed themselves being stupid, or were killed as a result of accidents.
FACT: no attacks on US possessions for almost 8 years. This is more than doubling the longest span since Carter took office.
lol...i think the OP finally got hold of a decent chain letter...one he can use as his "ace in the hole" during his fight to bring down "THE MAN!" too bad it's STILL loaded with the same misleading, idiotic, rhetoric the "conservative" crowd is known for. it's really a shame...some of these anti obama/liberal shenanigans are painting an ugly picture of what the conservative party stands for...
Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
come on jimmy, that's not even a fair statement. if you want to say that no one has stolen any more of our planes, crashed them into buildings, killing thousands of people for almost 8 years...then yes, i'll agree. any other such statement is completely false.
I suppose that all depends on your interpretation of a terrorist attack is. I personally don't feel that things such as the DC sniper or Virginia tech shootings are "terrorist attacks."Originally Posted by stephen
Again I hear more "these facts are false", but yet ONE of them has yet to be refuted!Originally Posted by stephen
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Most of them are subjective B/S thats all in the way you perceive them. They are just opinions and not actually facts. And opinions are like assholes... etcOriginally Posted by Mach'N'U
As far as the rest of the things like "doubling the nat'l debt" its the reason behind them that you are overlooking. Hell... most of the stimulus was tax cuts. Aren't you guys all for tax cuts?
Another large portion was loans to the banking and auto industries, which will be paid back with interest.
And as far as Cash For Clunkers goes... the Gov't collects taxes off of every vehicle sold, from the manufacturers, from the dealers, finance companies, etc etc... so its its not as big of a loss to taxpayers as you might think.
Actually our embassies in some countries like Yemen and Qatar get attacked about twice a year. It happens so damn often its not even news anymore.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
And I think the drop in attacks is because most of these guys are too busy trying to take over Pakistan to give us much trouble anywhere else.
Like I said in other threads... WWII was massive gov't deficit spending, combined with programs of rationing, etc.
Bush certainly knew about the attacks prior to 9/11 and he should have been prepared. Even if terrorism was a problem he inherited from Clinton, Bush himself handled it like a goddamn fool. The biggest platform of his campaign in 2000 was strengthening the military, national security, etc. But when it come time to handle a situation, he went about it all wrong and we are still paying the price.