Fuck the media and fuck Israel

[tony]

If you ask me, Israel is FAR nicer than they should be. If the US was being rocketed from Canada on a daily basis I would imagine most Americans would be calling for war.


If I has the power to make Israeli policy, you best believe Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria and Iran would already be smoldering wastelands. Put simply, all of them have committed acts of war against Israel, yet Israel has shown more restraint than I think should be expected. In fact, I would compare what Israel faces on a yearly basis to Pearl Harbor. Do you think Roosevelt made the right decision there?

If the U.S was furthering our border into Canada then yeah I'm sure Canada would respond not so nicely. Are they wrong for responding or did we create that hostile environment in the first place?

[BanginJimmy]

If the U.S was furthering our border into Canada then yeah I'm sure Canada would respond not so nicely. Are they wrong for responding or did we create that hostile environment in the first place?

Palastine was never a sovereign country though. They were a British colony until after WWII. The British, under pressure from the newly created UN, were basicly forced into giving the Jews a homeland in the so called holy land.

None of that really matters for this discussion though. What matters is that Israel is constantly under attack. They set up a blockade to help reduce the number of weapons coming into Gaza. McKinney was dumb enough to get caught in the blockade.

Do you honestly think that the attacks on Israel would stop if they completely left Gaza? The attacks against them are a religious thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with land. Muslim extremists only want Israel and Jews wiped off the map, land or no land.

[EJ25RUN]

Do you honestly think that the attacks on Israel would stop if they completely left Gaza? The attacks against them are a religious thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with land. Muslim extremists only want Israel and Jews wiped off the map, land or no land.

And this is what 90% of the world doesn't get. Actually, i should say refuses to get.

[The Ren]

Do you honestly think that the attacks on Israel would stop if they completely left Gaza? The attacks against them are a religious thing, it has absolutely nothing to do with land. Muslim extremists only want Israel and Jews wiped off the map, land or no land.

They aren't the only ones..

[David88vert]

Do you honestly think that the attacks on Israel would stop if they completely left Gaza?

Israel is not in Gaza. Governmental control stopped in 1994, and was handed over to the Palestinians. Arafat mismanged Gaza for many years. Hamas just won the Battle of Gaza back in 2007, remember?

As to military control, Israel pulled out all military and civilians from Gaza as part of the unilateral diengagement in September 2005. There are no Israelis living in nor ruling over Gaza. They even turned over the Phillipi Route to Egypt at the same time - even though Israel was to control it accoring to the Oslo agreements. What's funny is that some people here are saying that Israel is the one at fault, but in reality, Egypt closed it's border crossing also. Egypt has the capability to send in as much humanitarian aid, and even weapons, that it chooses to Hamas. They choose not to. But that must be Israel's fault also, right? Arab foreign ministers and Palestinian officials presented a united front against control of the border by Hamas after the 2007 election. Israeli and Egyptian security reports claimed that Hamas continued smuggling in large quantities of explosives and arms from Egypt through tunnels. Egyptian security forces uncovered 60 tunnels in 2007.

Even though the Israelis pulled out, and have not expanded into Gaza, the Qassam rockets are still being fired at Israeli civilians. According to Israel, between the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip and the end of January 2008, 697 rockets and 822 mortar bombs were fired at Israeli towns. Then in 2008, Hamas and their followers fired over 3000 rockets into Israel, according to Israeli reports.

FACT: Israel is not in Gaza.
FACT: Hamas STILL fires rockets into Israel - aimed at civilians.