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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög
    Some of you need to read Karl Marx's book..
    They think Marx is evil because his literature has been dwindled down to a talking point when in reality Marx wasn't too far off. Yes his ideals clashed with say.. Adam Smith but the two offset each other to add balance. Marx was against the Bureaucracy that is big business and a lot of what he warned of is happening, exploited workers.. big businesses who care more about profits than the people, and that is the trouble with the current healthcare system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    They think Marx is evil because his literature has been dwindled down to a talking point when in reality Marx wasn't too far off. Yes his ideals clashed with say.. Adam Smith but the two offset each other to add balance. Marx was against the Bureaucracy that is big business and a lot of what he warned of is happening, exploited workers.. big businesses who care more about profits than the people, and that is the trouble with the current healthcare system.
    A lot of people associate Marx/Marxism with Communism (and the failure thereof). Marxism is basically a system where the workers own the means of production collectively. The Communists differed from Marx because they sought to control all aspects of the society and had a single party system which persecuted dissenters.

    The programs to help the banking and auto industries all have the goal of returning the Gov't stake in those industries to private ownership once they turn around. Whereas a Socialist program would have permanent gov't management as a goal. And I would much rather have that stake owned by the US Gov't than say... the Chinese Gov't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    They think Marx is evil because his literature has been dwindled down to a talking point when in reality Marx wasn't too far off. Yes his ideals clashed with say.. Adam Smith but the two offset each other to add balance. Marx was against the Bureaucracy that is big business and a lot of what he warned of is happening, exploited workers.. big businesses who care more about profits than the people, and that is the trouble with the current healthcare system.

    Marx also lived in a utopia in which people would still work hard even if they didnt benefit from it. We all know that is not reality though.


    I would like to see a case from recent years of these exploited workers here in the US. No, minimum wage and no health coverage is not exploitation. Where are these workers that are working for less than say $5.00 an hour and get no breaks and work 18 hour days.

    A company's job is to make a profit, period.

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