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damn you don't even know that in our own constitution the people have the right to give any elected official the boot. it is our right. we don't need to vote or even shed any blood either, it is our right, so put that in your pipe and smoke it. but here is the kicker, everyone is to caught up in BS TV shows and showing up to work to pay DEBT so nobody really does anything and recently more people are getting the picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Total_Blender
the bad part is we are following FDR's roadmap, and it did not work until WW2 came along. seriously everything obama is doing FDR did and there was a temporary gain but the bottom fell out even furthur. look it up it's history repeating itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vteckidd
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Originally Posted by Total_Blender
opium production has risen since we have been in afghanistan, do the math on that one.
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Originally Posted by Paul
amen someone in this state finallysees that. the folks i used to work with swore iraq was behind 9/11, they didn't even know osama was in afghan, they thought he ruled iraq,
Originally Posted by Paul
oh by all means but if history repeats itself in the middle east it is a lost cause and no matter how much intervention/$ is dumped into it we are screwed. regime or not iraq bin ladin connections were never there and we know that.
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Originally Posted by preferredduck
But the kicker is that no matter who is on whos side all hell will break loose sooner or later.The rason that the middle east will stay that way for all time is because you have Islamic extremists trying to rid the world of everyone who doesn't believe thier ideals to a t. I don't care who you are you pay close attention to the Iran nuclear movement and to the Korean nuclear movement because that's where the real problems are going to come from and kill our economy! Yes the financial meltdown has weakend us but it will be an outside source the breaks the camels back.(no pun intended)
yea look at isreal at the moment. i remember bush giving a televised speech and said "saddam" instead of osama talking about the WTC. i was like WTF?Quote:
Originally Posted by NAMNORI
Explain where it is in the constitution that you can do anything other than vote to remove an elected official from office. Provide text from the actual document and cite it properly. As far as I know according to article 2, section 2, clause 5, only the Senate can carry out proceedings for impeachment of members of Congress, the President/VP, or Supreme Court and federal judges. And only once has a member of Congress ever been impeached (TN senator William Blount in 1798), and even then the impeachment was thrown out.Quote:
Originally Posted by preferredduck
You guys can't do anything other than kick rocks untill the people you disagree with are up for election (and like I said its gonna be a while), and even then you can't do anything unless you happen to live in their district. You might not like Nancy Pelosi or Ted Kennedy, but their constituents apparently do because they keep voting for them. And none of you are their constituents. :doh:
if i remember correctly if the people are not happy with an official then we can boot em, but as you know the rules change everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Total_Blender
How can you boot them before the election? That is what I am asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by preferredduck
if we scream loud enough and enough people get involved it would happen, but if that were the case you know martial law would be declared. think of all the unemployed and millions of others basically stopping working and protesting peacefully about the waste of 3 trillion and bankrupting this country and i thought somewhere in the constitution it is for the people and we can make a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Total_Blender
basically it takes a lot of support even from people in high enough spaces. B/C of the homeland security memo on right wing extremists which a congressman stated tonight covers 2/3 of americans was put out last week enough of a buzz has been made to call for the head of the DHS to resign. napalatano or whatever her name is.
there are 600,000 houses that the banks have had hidden on paper from the balance sheets labeled as foreclosures and the loans are still being "serviced". wait til that flood hits the market and everyone home value's will drop even more causing more debt and upside down folks which will make the markets go down even further. if that happens i say we the people take back our gov't, and honestly with the web and other tools now good ideas can be found for the mess, like open up the patent office and other agencies for energy, fuels, and other good stuff.
I'm sorry but throwing money at the problem did not work last time and will not work this time. i really don't think housing has hit the bottom yet. and guess what FDR served 4 terms and created a lot of the useless mass budget programs we have today in our government. some of these agencies do no good for the citizens either.
Its called a Recall election, BUT a while back they removed the ability for the public to remove federal officials. Now the only people who can remove a president or other Federal Elected official is congress, though I do not see that happening in the next few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Total_Blender
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Originally Posted by eraser4g63
hmm go figure they made an amendment so we have no power anymore instead of it being the way it is supposed to be. everyday they take away the voice and power of the sheeple, i mean people.