Originally Posted by simontibbett
I quit reading his posts after the first one. They werent worth the brainpower it took to read.
Originally Posted by simontibbett
I quit reading his posts after the first one. They werent worth the brainpower it took to read.
So the FED artificially controlling interest rates that steered us into this mess doesnt constitute the GOVT playing God?Originally Posted by simontibbett
The FEd manipulating our currency isnt "police state"
The Democrats trying to get rid of AR isnt "police state"
Pumping ungodly amounts of money into our financial system essentially propping up companies that are not viable is ok?
Spending 800 billion we dont have after the first 700 billion didnt do anything is fine?
The main stream news media talking about Nationalization of the Banks isnt a warning sign?
What more do you want? You say you dont watch main stream media, wondering what kool aid you are drinking.
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Yep still don't believe anything...lol
its all theory until shit hits the fan. what about the supposive fema coffins in madison, im thinkin about going to check em out later this week, maybe i'll get shot at maybe not. my dad is retired military and some of the things he read/saw that were calssified disturbed him. he used to be all about uncle sam, not so much anymore, and he srved his whole life to the gov't. did you look at the pics of the flights, thats one thing that boggles me is the wreckage, my brother is a machinist and knows a lot about metal and he doesn't understand certain things(engineer brain) on these events aswell. every person is entitled to their opinions,im not saying its true but some things look fishy and you cant read one article and jump to a conclusion.Originally Posted by simontibbett
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There is alot of stuff going on too that people cant really fathom if you try to explain it. i have a friend that was telling me years ago about police state, and how its coming to the US. I thought yea sure, riiiiiiight.
The signs are all around us now, BIG Government, Patriot Act intruding on our freedoms more and more that it was ever intended to be, Banning of weapons looms on the horizon, the US GOvt HAS TO KNOW that what they are doing is going to destroy our currency yet they keep pumping more an more out, total loss of control over GOVT by the people, Biometric scans going into public places, Banks being nationalized, Socialism taking over which will lead to Fascism ..........
Wonder how it was when Hitler was around or Stalin
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hitler had the reishcstag(however its spelled)fire, and bush had 9/11. an interesting point in barbara bushes book was marvin bush was head of security at the WTC until his last day on sept 10, 2001. its in her damn book.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
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Man have any of you tried to buy ammo or shoot recreationally like I do lately?Originally Posted by Vteckidd
People are buying up every bullet in the state, it's crazy. Obama will not ban guns, it wont happen. What the hell is going on?![]()
I can't believe the "FEMA" coffins was really mentioned LMFAO. I went and saw them, you should probably talk to the plant right there that makes the stuff
I am sure the government paid them to lie though.![]()
You all need to quit watching Youtube videos and quit watching the news 24/7, times have been worse, chill out lol.
i don't sit around and watch youtube videos and the news, yes it has been worse(great depression) hell the year i was born we were in a recession and many times after that. the fema coffins couls gomany ways, like for sending in supplies in a flooded city, etc, but why does the cdc lease the land. it can make one wonder though.Originally Posted by simontibbett
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Go talk to the people who own the business. What's so scary about having coffin lining ready for a disaster? Such as a hurricane, a CDC attack, etc. That's not scary that's called looking ahead. If they didn't plan ahead and be ready if something did happen and they had to wait for those they would be fussed at forever.Originally Posted by preferredduck
That issue with those "coffins" was fixed months ago, the truth is out, who owns them, who makes them, etc. It's nothing special, they have been there for YEARS.
Some of you guys on here need to start an IA cult and put on your snuggies and purple sneakers and wait for the comet to come by.
Seriously all this doom and gloom shit is retarded.
Life is a thought, think about it.
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repped.
I love conspiracy theorists. They use half truths and straight up lies and try to spin them off as fact. My favorite is definately the WTC ones though. The NWO is another good one, but still not nearly as funny as the WTC.
As far as everyone being scared, I guess we should blame that on the fear mongerer sitting in the Oval Office. It seems like everytime he says something the markets drop 5%. My personal fears come from hyper-inflation, drasticly higher taxes on businesses, and decreased national secuirty. Add to that, no confidence in the moron sitting in the oval office, or any of the other morons sitting in their plush offices on Capitol Hill. All of this happening in a time that countries that are less equipped to handle these hard times may look across borders for an answer leads me to be VERY worried about the future. Now today I hear that Congress wants to pass another 410B bill. Since we couldnt afford the 700B bill last year and the 790B bill this year, where are getting the money to pay for this one? This year alone we will run somewhere in the area of a 2.5T debt. This means that Obama will have amassed half of what Bush did in 8 years in less than 2 months. I guess there goes fiscal responsibility. The Chinese already dont want to buy our debt and they wont buy much more without a drastic increase in intrest rates. When that happens we can say hello to 20%+ intrest rates again.
Theres even more than that, but im not going to argue with someome who can barely drink
Some of the stuff is pretty crazy people are talking about, but there is going to be a crash the likes we have never seen and its coming soon.
Stock up on food, guns, ammo, etc. Go read any of the Ticket Forums, guys that do this for a living are talking about how bad its going to get, if you think its bad now, wait till AIG posts a 150 billion dollar quartely loss, what happens then>?
Yo uknow there is about 100 more dominoes to fall, and we havent even hit the tip of the iceberg yet.
Signs are there, just do some research.
When the DOW hits 2000 im coming in here to LOL at you
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the bad part is AIG is asking for more money as it is, where did the 1st 150billion go.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
citigroup lost like 90% of its value, along with bank of america, merryll lynch, and many many others. Citi is already openly talking about nationalizing. the sad part is housing is what started all this, the deregulation of mortgages in the last decade made half of this mess, and the other half was done by greedy people. legalizing herbs nationwide would be good and would generate"green" jobs and would generate a lot of revenue. and yes they are trying to take our guns away. and yes jimmy everyday(except today) that obama has talked of the economythe stock market has dropped. and vteckidd a lot of economists that are very smart say the stimulus will do little to nothing. and the first 700B was a joke, it helped put is in more debt to people we don't want to be in debt to.
BTW simon where are the WMD's in iraq, since you know it all and the gov't doesn't do any wrong please explain that one for me because as it sits bush commited high crimes on that subject.
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The country has been hijacked, 60+% OPPOSED the stimulus and it went through anyway.
Hows that for representation
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if yall think all this is bad, then do something about it. stop sitting around here typing on IA and bitching that the world and the country is coming to an end. if it is, stand up for what you believe in and do something about it. bitching like you are, telling people how blind they are isn't going to do anything, especially if everyone is a "sheeple." if what you say happens. then it happens, shit happens. get over it. every country has to go through ups and downs. now im not saying i want it to, but if it has to happen it has to happen. the only way to stop or control it is to stand up for what you believe in.
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Ok , lets just DO something about it! God, why did i think of that!Originally Posted by blacknightteg
You realize the VAST majority of America is uneducated when it comes to social issues. So typing in here is DOING something, its showing the side that most people dont know exists.
Just cause you people choose NOT to believe it, or even do your own research on the matter doesnt meant its not true. I have seen a bunch of "HAHA LOL " posts but NO ONE is aruging the other side or even responded to the questions i posted.
Write your congressman! oh wait, they dont listen to us anyway.
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look, i am not saying that none of it is true, hell it maybe, but its not going to stop if it is true if no one does anything about it. you doing what your doing by posting on here isnt going to do a lot. i mean you said it yourself. all you get is the "haha lol" posts. i dont post in here that much because i don't do a lot of research on stuff like that. ill admit it. but i still have my view points.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
the thing that bugs me about a lot of the posts that are done on here is that the are immediately turned towards the downfall of something. i mean hell just cause you did research and are judging by statistics, how the fuck do you know bad shit will happen? and to be honest, so be it, if it does it does. we as a country put ourselves into the mess. it wasnt our government, it was our people. if we were smart enough to think on our own two feel. which were not. then we could have done something about the corruption in washington a long time ago.
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All i will say is, if more people know what Peter Schiff was saying 3 years ago maybe we wouldnt be in this predicament.
YOutube him
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I just ordered my fallout shelter............
Wal-Mart has them on special.
Jesus Christ , this stock up on guns and ammo, food, plant a garden is fucking bull shit. Lets be real, times are fucked up. If people keep freaking out things will get worse.
WHY do you think it is so far fetched?Originally Posted by white24d
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"The chart above from Steven Williams at CyclePro.com shows the Dow Jones Industrial Average adjusted for inflation since 1800. As you can see, when the effects of inflation have been extracted, the DJIA is much more cyclical than Wall Street promoters would care to admit. In optimistic peaks of 1834, 1906, 1929, and 1966 the DJIA subsequently moved to the bottom of the long term trend channel. These bear markets were either inflationary, such as the 1966-1982 bear market or deflationary such as in 1929-1932. We have also noticed that inflationary/deflationary crashes tend to alternate. We suppose this is because Mr. Market likes to fool even the bears. Today we are again at the top of the trend channel. How will we fall? Most bears remember and fear the stagflation of the 1970s. However with debt levels currently high, inflation cannot be maintained for an extended length of time. Debtors would merely file for bankruptcy or foreclosure (as they have begun recently). Instead a deflationary spiral similar to 1929-1933 or 1834-1842 is likely. It appears the rule of alternation will continue.
This chart also shows possible future levels for the Dow Jones Industrial Average. According to the trend lines followed since 1800, the DJIA could reasonably fall to 3000 by 2012. This is our target."
http://www.ltadvisors.net/Info/DJIAForecast.htm
WHat do you think is going to happen when the bottom drops out an we are at 2000-3000 on the DJIA and unemployment which is rising rapidly is at 20%?
these are "doom an gloom" this is VERY MUCH REAL
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And seriously it's too late for this , we should have listened to what's his name in 1999. Its here at our door and the recession isnt going anywhere until action is taken.
Ever heard of learning from your mistakesOriginally Posted by white24d
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Exactly, I totally agree. WHen you tell people that their world will collapse in front of them they freak. We are always 5 minutes away from a nuclear holocaust. ALWAYS . THe world will keep on turning. I am going to live my life the way I see fit. I will work and study hard until I reach my goals. If the country fails and everyone starves , well that is gonna suck. If not then we can continue on our path until the next speedbump slows us down.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
You know "VTECKIDD" I really use to think you might be a little smart. But your head is so far up your ass you are just another scared ass pussy American. Quit fucking crying and reading artificial rumors and making everything to be out the worse it can. You sound as smart as a inbred redneck saying stock up on guns and ammo as well as food. The economy COULD start to see a change soon, nobody knows, it doesn't follow a pattern, only when you try to make it that way.
You are doing nothing good by sitting around and posting your "theories" on a car website. You sound like one of those insane old men who "Saw a UFO and got anal raped."
Do you have ANYTHING positive to say? Why are some companies doing A LOT better now? Why are some people doing great right now?
Quit crying, be happy for what you have, shit will get better. Not even worth arguing your bullshit stories and your "predictions" when all you know is what you read.
Originally Posted by simontibbett
exactly the kind of idiotic euphoria that im talking about
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Yeah, because you sound so smart only stating rumors and myths, you dumb fuck.Originally Posted by Vteckidd
RUmors? how is any of this rumors? i have stated charts and facts by people that are WAY more educated that you an i combined.Originally Posted by simontibbett
I have yet to see you post anything of substance
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If all you post is so true, why hasn't the media swallowed it up?Originally Posted by Vteckidd
Charts and "facts" by people not that great, and also very close minded such as yourself. I can send you a link to news channels and you can read those?I have done just as much research as you, have family in the government, and I have yet to find anything that I truly believe or really see happening. You think the police state is coming, so you think the United States will turn into a country like North Korea...
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You also post your fear on "proposals" anything proposed you jump in, put something you are worried about with it, and say oh shit.
It's clear you are extremely horrified about this situation.
I truly believe half this problem is idiots like in here installing fear into stupid people who believe everything they here. Hell I could send a letter in about my people for money thread it be posted on the news and VtecFag will make a thread telling everyone Nazi America is about to happen.
lets get along gentlemen!!!!!!
I have seen those before, I believe we have PROBLEMS, but not the USA will collapse.
im with simon. to me it seems like that all you want to post is the doom and the gloom shit. like i said if you want something done. run for an office start up a movement, do something. otherwise your bitching and moaning about shit that you think will happen just because a chart says so may happen. or it may not. simon is right. there are plenty of businesses that are doing god right now. what does that mean? well probably that our country is going in a new direction, should it not? yes, it should our country is so fucking scared of change that they want nothing different. this is why all you fags that are dissing what is going on right now are talking all this doom and gloom shit, because its all different. its not the normal "cover up and dont tell the american idiots anything" shits getting thrown out to the forefront now. i think thats a good thing. people like you an a few others in this thread are why this country is going down hill. you all are the ones that are making people not buy shit.
i said this in another thread: the reason banks arent lending is because people like you are telling the average american that the economy is going down hill. which makes people not want to buy anything. if there was none of that. people may start to wise up and buy things, which in turn would probably make banks start lending because they see people being a little more lenient with their money. its all about cause and effect. all the causes and effects that you have pointed out are that if one person spends their money. they are going to fucked for the next few years.
people need to fucking grow up and stop assuming the worst. like i said in my previous post, if this shit happens, then so be it. we got ourselves into this situation. our government was built by the pepole for the people and we let the people get over run by big business. its not their fault, they jumped on the opportunity. its our fault.
all i am saying is that if something is to happen and our economy is to tank again, then so be it. we'll just get right back up hopefully and maybe even be better off then we were before. the only reason people are freaking out like i said was because all thats going on is something that no one is used to, so what to people do? cry about it. thats only going to make thing worse cause it shows are country dont give a shit and dont want to adapt with times.
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Ok, so listen to all these NON DOOM AND GLOOM people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDzQ...eature=related
NOtice the DOW (13,7xx).
So Schiff has been right all along why should he be wrong now?
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Originally Posted by Vteckidd
i dont know if this is directed towards me or not. but i never said any of them are wrong. but at the same time. you doing all this wining over whats taking place isnt going to do anything about it. if anything you should try and look for a positive in all of this negative, cause all your doing is contributing to the problem. what your doing isnt helping people but making it worse.
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Again its not whining, its not "the sky is falling" , its educating people that say "ehhh, we havent failed before we wont fail now"Originally Posted by blacknightteg
People that dont have a real grip on what is going on
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Originally Posted by Vteckidd
the way that you're educating is the wrong way though, these people that you are "educating" aren't going to understand what you are trying to do. most people in america like i said wont listen to you anyways because our whole entire country is afraid of doing something different. like i said before they are afraid of change. regardless of whether or not you post up that "not doom and gloom" guy, your reputation shows a close-minded individual that all he thinks about is the worst case scenario. i dont think i have heard one positive thing from you yet.
if you are going to preach this stuff like you are, you need to have a positive aspect with it, a rebuttal other wise no one is going to continue to listen to you. i have said it before and i will say it again. WE did this to ourselves, we took the country that was supposed to be run by the people for the people and let big business take over with out doing anything about it. it was not their fault. they capitalized on opportunity. just like your capitalizing on many of the members on here and freaking them out cause you know the majority of them do not look up this stuff. and, because your so close minded many people that try to prove you wrong and or show you something different from a different side. you usually wont have anything of it and start to bash someone elses statement. your theories about things that are going on are getting old. yes, we all know we are in a rut but the fact that you as a person always post up negative aspects of a situation, doesnt show much for your knowledge besides going on the internet and looking up some stuff. i guarantee you that even the people that your getting this stuff from have two sides to a theory or story. thats what your supposed to do. doing it so once sided as you are in my opinion makes you look more non-intelligent then you try to act.
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Originally Posted by blacknightteg
the good thing is, is that people are starting to wake up to the fact that, "hey, were in some deep shit right now", and no longer living in denial, thinking that we are going to be fine.
our situation CAN and WILL be a lot worse.....
if you think were in some shit now, wait till all these baby boomers start drawing on their social security checks and that runs out.... then we will be in some real shit....
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