Status of the Election

[Echonova]

so what i'm wondering is stevens in alaska was convicted but he is still on the ticket... how can he win? i guess if he does it goes to run off?

If he wins, the governor of Alaska names his replacement.Yes, Palin.

She could nominate herself in theory.

[BobbyFresco]

actually I was, I just dont agree with your saviors ideas.

Actually, he doesn't swear by the "savior" either.

[BanginJimmy]

its funny you say JFK b/c i've said a couple times he has the possibility to be JFK of modern times... now this won't get done by playing LEFT he needs to first bring the nation together then he needs to help out the majority of america... take that as you wish.

we as much as I distrust Obama, I hope he avoids convertables when he is in Dallas.


If Obama makes ANY moves to work with the right I will start a thread and apologize for my slamming of Obama. My only excuse will be that he has never shown any indication that he will work with the right on any significant or controversial issue. I wonder if his advisors told him he cant vote present on those touchy ones.

[DrivenMind]

Don't be silly, politics is all about empty promises. I don't really think either of the candidates offer reasonable explanations as to how they were going to accomplish anything. That's why I don't think either one of them will really get shit done. Get over it. They're two sides of the same god damned coin. Obama's tax plan won't even affect but a very select few people in the states, judging by the fact that you love your GMC Jimmy so much, I'm assuming you're not one of them. Quit crying.

And in reference to what you said, even Terri Schiavo could tell how much sneaky bullshit was put into the McCain campaign. I'm not saying it's his fauly, but there were a lot of prejudice undertones that certainly do not make him look any better to the rest of the world.

[4dmin]

If he wins, the governor of Alaska names his replacement.Yes, Palin.

She could nominate herself in theory.

ouch!

[DrivenMind]

we as much as I distrust Obama, I hope he avoids convertables when he is in Dallas.

.

Dude you're really starting to get on my fucking nerves...

[4dmin]

obama wins virgina and enough votes

[Alan®]

Well that's it folks its over.

Congratulations Barrack Obama.

[Vteckidd]

Its over congrats mr. President elect obama

[Alan®]

sig and avi changed lol.

[4dmin]

WELL I HAVE TO SAY I'M HAPPY AND SAD ITS OVER...

I'VE HAD A GREAT TIME DEBATING THE ISSUES AGREE/DISAGREE; DEFINATELY NICE TO SEE A DECENT % OF IA INTERESTED IN OUR FUTURE.

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History has been made

[bigdare23]

[BanginJimmy]

this is very large misunderstanding on what he is trying to do... i will break it down for b/c i know alittle bit about this as i worked for one of the largest TPAs for 6 years.

he is proposing using gov buying power to get same policy benefits he has for regular americans...

THIS IS NOT FREE. YOU STILL HAVE TO PAY. BUT IF IT IS BETTER THEN YOUR CURRENT INSURANCE THEN YOU CAN BUY IN.

now why would we do this... more people on a plan the better the benefits. this is why fortune 500 companies have better benefits then private companies. mainly b/c of buying power. considering Joe The Plumber has been quite the topic lets look at what it would cost Joe's Company for healthcare. Well say he employs under 10 employees. Decent healthcare would roughly run 500$ a month per person. Lets say one of those people gets diabetus or has cancer; once he goes to renew his package his rates will be recalculated and that 500$ could go up to 600$ b/c of 1 employee. now w/ the buying power of 100,000s of members your rates could be significantly lower like 100$

I understand where this is coming from, but emplyees still have a premium to pay and most of the people without health insurance now will not be able to afford this coverage even at the lower costs. Alos he said he was going to use the same plan that is used by congress. That is not a cheap plan, who is going to pay for this plan? My tax money. I'm willing to bet that costs for this program only top military spending within 3 years of full inception. Who is going to pay for it when those evil rich people that make over 200k, or whatever number is is using now, a year cant afford it? Then add in removing the cap on SS deductions, and raising the cap gains taxes and that top 10% of income tax payers will be allowed to keep less than half of their earnings.

[Barefoot]

woot woot its over

[BKgen®]

wow

[Slow Motion]

Obama is president.

[BanginJimmy]

Dude you're really starting to get on my fucking nerves...

cry me a river

[BobbyFresco]

Ladies and Gentlemen, goodnight.

[DrivenMind]

cry me a river

Cry me a clan hood.

White trash.

[BanginJimmy]

Have a good one Bobby.

[Alan®]

Obama is president elect.

fixed

[Turbo Terrance]

hopefully the issue of race wont get swept under the rug anymore not that we will have a black prez., and hopefully people will be more open about it...

[BanginJimmy]

Cry me a clan hood.

White trash.

disagree with Obama and you are a white trash racist. I guess I should get used to this over the next 4 years huh.

[tony]

C'mon guys.. cut that stuff out. If you support Obama, enjoy the moment, no need to argue at this point.

[DrivenMind]

C'mon guys.. cut that stuff out. If you support Obama, enjoy the moment, no need to argue at this point.

Nah man it was the "I hope he avoids convertibles, while he's in Texas comment" that got me talking shit. If he's going to make references to him being assassinated the night he's won, then he can expect nothing but low blows from me.

[BanginJimmy]

Nah man it was the "I hope he avoids convertibles, while he's in Texas comment" that got me talking shit. If he's going to make references to him being assassinated the night he's won, then he can expect nothing but low blows from me.

Read what I was quoting and then re-read my post. Admin brought up how Obama was similiar to JFK, I made it clear I was hopeful that nothing like that happened to him.