Biden vs Palin debate this thursday...

[alpine_aw11]

him attacking putting her to the test will only push the woman vote away from her... hill dawg supporters aren't uniformed house wives. if she doesn't hold her own she will not gain those Hillary voters reps were banking on.

It's not necessarily about whether or not she attacks her, it's the manner that he goes about doing it. If he's a douchebag throughout the debate, that could actually help her because people don't take lack of character as a good quality. I don't know what he's going to do, but I've heard he plans on being pretty ruthless. Again, I'm just going to wait and see.

[4dmin]

It's not necessarily about whether or not she attacks her, it's the manner that he goes about doing it. If he's a douchebag throughout the debate, that could actually help her because people don't take lack of character as a good quality. I don't know what he's going to do, but I've heard he plans on being pretty ruthless. Again, I'm just going to wait and see.

only people who look for the sympathy card are currently voting rep anyway... they aren't going to be swayed either way. undecided voters are what debates are about and these people mainly are in it for the issues.

[Alan®]

only people who look for the sympathy card are currently voting rep anyway.

Wait a minute. And what are the dems all about? Helping the little people. We should have sympathy on the little people that don't make enough money to buy the big screen and have internet. So we are going to take away from those that have and give it to those that have not. Obama wants socialize practically everything. And raise taxes on small business owners who make up 99% of the businesses in this country who also give out most of the jobs in this country. But you're right we are the ones looking for the sympathy here.

[4dmin]

Wait a minute. And what are the dems all about? Helping the little people. We should have sympathy on the little people that don't make enough money to buy the big screen and have internet. So we are going to take away from those that have and give it to those that have not. Obama wants socialize practically everything. And raise taxes on small business owners who make up 99% of the businesses in this country who also give out most of the jobs in this country. But you're right we are the ones looking for the sympathy here.

what does this have to do w/ topic? well mccain wants 95% of america to pay more taxes then obama who the f*ck cares? is obama, biden/palin? no.

[Alan®]

what does this have to do w/ topic? well mccain wants 95% of america to pay more taxes then obama who the f*ck cares? is obama, biden/palin? no.

Paul you amaze me sometimes. You bring up stuff OT it then gets shot down and you go "what does that have to do with the topic". IDK you tell me you're the one making bs ass statements like that.

EDIT: BTW according to whatever article was posted up awhile back once you add in all of Obama's new programs you still end up with less under Obama. Again let's think about this Paul. 99% of businesses operating inside of the U.S. are small businesses. They provide most of the jobs in the country. The average small business owner in '06 was making 235k roughly which means there are plenty small business owners making over Obama's coveted $250K mark. Obama wants to raise taxes on people who make $250K a year (Small business owners) what do you think will happen to jobs in this country?

Here in lies the fundamental difference between the two canidates. Do we help the little people by suffocating the "evil rich". Or do we help everyone but reward those who are succesful a little more.

Think of it this way. You're doing a partner project in school. You do the brunt of the work while you're partner does just what he is asked if that much. Who out of the two should reap the rewards?

[4dmin]

Paul you amaze me sometimes. You bring up stuff OT it then gets shot down and you go "what does that have to do with the topic". IDK you tell me you're the one making bs ass statements like that.

i try to stay on topic as much as possible... we are talking about biden/palin and you want to discuss tax plans w/o mentioning topic at hand. who is not on topic? nice try.

[bigdare23]

Or do we help everyone but reward those who are succesful a little more.

I still don't see how giving rich people a larger profit helps everyone.

[alpine_aw11]

I still don't see how giving rich people a larger profit helps everyone.

It's not "giving" them more money, it's letting them keep more of what they make. Everyone else gets helped too, so that's not a good point.

Who else is watching this? Palin looks scared ****less.

[Vteckidd]

what does this have to do w/ topic? well mccain wants 95% of america to pay more taxes then obama who the f*ck cares? is obama, biden/palin? no.

Answer me this, cause none of you seem to be able to.

If Mccain is for KEEPING the BUSH TAX CUTS ALREADY IN PLACE, and is GIVING EVERYONE A TAX BREAK

How is OBAMA LETTING THE TAX CUTS EXPIRE and then giving you his OWN TAX CUT better?

see this is where the rhetoric gets big. Obama is hiding behind this "i wont raise taxes" when he really means is "i will let EXISTING tax cuts EXPIRE, see , i didnt RAISE taxes i just didnt renew the already existing ones"

[4dmin]

Answer me this, cause none of you seem to be able to.

If Mccain is for KEEPING the BUSH TAX CUTS ALREADY IN PLACE, and is GIVING EVERYONE A TAX BREAK

How is OBAMA LETTING THE TAX CUTS EXPIRE and then giving you his OWN TAX CUT better?

see this is where the rhetoric gets big. Obama is hiding behind this "i wont raise taxes" when he really means is "i will let EXISTING tax cuts EXPIRE, see , i didnt RAISE taxes i just didnt renew the already existing ones"

yes its better why? b/c obamas plan actually brings in money. i love how reps try to down play the fact that bush tax cuts have failed the economy... economy has grown more in the previous years but not at a rate to keep us from borrowing on an unlimited credit card to countries like china thus putting us in debt. now bush and possibly mccain wants to push this debt off on our children... that makes a whole lot of sense.

i'm done w/ this thread see you guys after the debate. if history repreats itself you will be eating your words.