Sex education in schools...?

[willum14pb]

not just schools, he wants to initiate this into kindergarten. At the point where they wouldn't understand anything being talked about. Ignorant, really. Sexually active children and having kids when you're young has nothing to do with sex education. It's about being a good parent and making sure your child is aware of consequences. And i will agree with PUREjdm, your peers have more influence on you than anyone. Especially at the ages where sexual activity starts to occur. IT's cool to have sex. everyone knows that.

[4dmin]

not just schools, he wants to initiate this into kindergarten. At the point where they wouldn't understand anything being talked about. Ignorant, really. Sexually active children and having kids when you're young has nothing to do with sex education. It's about being a good parent and making sure your child is aware of consequences. And i will agree with PUREjdm, your peers have more influence on you than anyone. Especially at the ages where sexual activity starts to occur. IT's cool to have sex. everyone knows that.

state your source.

I think sex ed. should be taught in school, but Obama wants it to be taught in Kindergarden....are you fuking kidding me?

again state source.

[DieselNuts]

state your source.



again state source.

just type in "obama sex education" in google. You will get plenty of sources.

[Jaimecbr900]

state your source.



again state source.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3395856&page=2

Quoted directly from the curriculum outline that Obama submitted to the Media:

This is for LEVEL 1, ie. 5-8 yr olds:

Topic 3: Reproduction

Level 1

• Men and women have reproductive organs that enable them to have a child.
• Men and women have specific cells in their bodies (sperm cells and egg cells) that enable them to reproduce.
• Reproduction requires that a sperm and egg join.
• Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
• When a woman is pregnant, the fetus grows inside her body in her uterus.
• A woman can be pregnant with more than one fetus at a time.
• Babies usually come out of a woman’s body through an opening called a vagina.
• Some babies are born by an operation called a Caesarian Section.
• A woman’s breasts can provide milk for a baby.
• Not all men and women have children.
• People who cannot have children may choose to adopt.

SEXUAL BEHAVIOR

Topic 1: Sexuality Throughout Life

Level 1

• Most children are curious about their bodies.
• Bodies can feel good when touched.

Topic 2: Masturbation

Level 1

• Touching and rubbing one’s own genitals to feel good is called masturbation.
• Some boys and girls masturbate and others do not.
• Masturbation should be done in a private place.

Ummm, is this "age appropriate"?????

[4dmin]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3395856&page=2

Quoted directly from the curriculum outline that Obama submitted to the Media:

This is for LEVEL 1, ie. 5-8 yr olds:

Topic 3: Reproduction

Level 1

• Men and women have reproductive organs that enable them to have a child.
• Men and women have specific cells in their bodies (sperm cells and egg cells) that enable them to reproduce.
• Reproduction requires that a sperm and egg join.
• Vaginal intercourse – when a penis is placed inside a vagina – is the most common way for a sperm and egg to join.
• When a woman is pregnant, the fetus grows inside her body in her uterus.
• A woman can be pregnant with more than one fetus at a time.
• Babies usually come out of a woman’s body through an opening called a vagina.
• Some babies are born by an operation called a Caesarian Section.
• A woman’s breasts can provide milk for a baby.
• Not all men and women have children.
• People who cannot have children may choose to adopt.

SEXUAL BEHAVIOR

Topic 1: Sexuality Throughout Life

Level 1

• Most children are curious about their bodies.
• Bodies can feel good when touched.

Topic 2: Masturbation

Level 1

• Touching and rubbing one’s own genitals to feel good is called masturbation.
• Some boys and girls masturbate and others do not.
• Masturbation should be done in a private place.

Ummm, is this "age appropriate"?????

curriculum outline where is this on that abc page?

[Jaimecbr900]

curriculum outline where is this on that abc page?

You can read the entire curriculum proposed here:

http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf

Topic 5: Sexual Orientation Subconcept: As people grow and develop they may begin to feel romantically and/or sexually attracted to people of the same and/or a different gender.

Level 1

• Human beings can love people of the same gender and people of another gender.
• Some people are heterosexual, which means they can be attracted to and fall in love with someone of another gender.
• Some people are homosexual, which means they can be attracted to and fall in love with someone of the same gender.
• Homosexual men and women are also known as gay men and lesbians.
• People deserve respect regardless of who they are attracted to.
• Making fun of people by calling them gay (e.g. “homo,” “fag,” “queer”) is disrespectful and hurtful.

Topic 6: Gender Identity (begins at level 2)

Topic 6: Sexual Fantasy (begins at level 3)

Topic 2: Contraception Subconcept: Contraception enables people to have sexual intercourse and avoid unintended pregnancy.

Topic 4: Abortion Subconcept: When a woman becomes pregnant and chooses not to have a child, she has the option of having an abortion.

Level 1

• • Sometimes women become pregnant when they do not want to be or are unable to care for a child.

Topic 5: Sexually Transmitted Diseases

Level 1

• Sexually transmitted diseases are caused by germs such as bacteria and viruses.
• There are many types of sexually transmitted diseases.
• People who do not engage in certain behaviors do not get STDs.
• A small number of children are born with STDs that they get from their mothers during pregnancy or birth.
• The most common ways for a person to get an STD is to participate in sexual behavior or share a needle with another person who is already infected with an STD.
• Children who find needles on the ground should not touch them and should tell an adult.

Topic 5: Diversity Subconcept: Our society has a diversity of sexual attitudes and behaviors; some people are unfairly discriminated against because of the way they express their sexuality.

Level 1

• Individuals differ in the way they think, act, look, and live.
• Talking about differences helps people understand each other better.
• The belief that all members of a group will behave the same way is called a stereotype.
• Stereotypes can hurt people.
• All people should receive fair and equal treatment.
• People who are different are often treated negatively or unequally, which is unfair.

Yall can read the PDF in it's entirety (sp?) above. Make up your own minds if you would want YOUR 5-8 yr old being "taught" these things by someone who inevitably will inject THEIR OWN thought process, prejudices, and experiences or lack thereof into that curriculum. Think about it.

[EJ25RUN]

i'm confused. I had sex ed in 3rd and 6th grade. How isit not already in the system.

[blaknoize]

i'm confused. I had sex ed in 3rd and 6th grade. How isit not already in the system.

I had sex ed in 4th. No idea what my age was, but I only assume I was a very smal child. Then... I had a break till 9th and 10th grade. I'm also wondering the same.

Plus I dont see why its really an issue. Our parent sure didnt care for sex ed nor paid attention. Back in the hott wett 70's bitchs and dudes just had sex cuz it was fun (totally dependant upon when u were born), this can fall to the 60's as we ALL KNOW were even hotter and wetter and even sticky. Drugs and sex.

I had that class very young, didnt remember anything of it or even cared (I loved my HotWheels) but I was still taught it.

So... please tell me, why is this stretching to so many pages?

[Tracy]

You can read the entire curriculum proposed here:

http://www.siecus.org/_data/global/images/guidelines.pdf

Topic 5: Sexual Orientation Subconcept: As people grow and develop they may begin to feel romantically and/or sexually attracted to people of the same and/or a different gender.

Level 1

• Human beings can love people of the same gender and people of another gender.
• Some people are heterosexual, which means they can be attracted to and fall in love with someone of another gender.
• Some people are homosexual, which means they can be attracted to and fall in love with someone of the same gender.
• Homosexual men and women are also known as gay men and lesbians.
• People deserve respect regardless of who they are attracted to.
• Making fun of people by calling them gay (e.g. “homo,” “fag,” “queer”) is disrespectful and hurtful.

Topic 6: Gender Identity (begins at level 2)

Topic 6: Sexual Fantasy (begins at level 3)

Topic 2: Contraception Subconcept: Contraception enables people to have sexual intercourse and avoid unintended pregnancy.

Topic 4: Abortion Subconcept: When a woman becomes pregnant and chooses not to have a child, she has the option of having an abortion.

Level 1

• • Sometimes women become pregnant when they do not want to be or are unable to care for a child.

Topic 5: Sexually Transmitted Diseases

Level 1

• Sexually transmitted diseases are caused by germs such as bacteria and viruses.
• There are many types of sexually transmitted diseases.
• People who do not engage in certain behaviors do not get STDs.
• A small number of children are born with STDs that they get from their mothers during pregnancy or birth.
• The most common ways for a person to get an STD is to participate in sexual behavior or share a needle with another person who is already infected with an STD.
• Children who find needles on the ground should not touch them and should tell an adult.

Topic 5: Diversity Subconcept: Our society has a diversity of sexual attitudes and behaviors; some people are unfairly discriminated against because of the way they express their sexuality.

Level 1

• Individuals differ in the way they think, act, look, and live.
• Talking about differences helps people understand each other better.
• The belief that all members of a group will behave the same way is called a stereotype.
• Stereotypes can hurt people.
• All people should receive fair and equal treatment.
• People who are different are often treated negatively or unequally, which is unfair.

Yall can read the PDF in it's entirety (sp?) above. Make up your own minds if you would want YOUR 5-8 yr old being "taught" these things by someone who inevitably will inject THEIR OWN thought process, prejudices, and experiences or lack thereof into that curriculum. Think about it.

Yep. I do want my kids taught all of that I have specific experience in how "sex education" changed my life. I'll go ahead and say (even though it is very personal) that the exact time that I was taught IN SCHOOL about this stuff (age 11) is the time I realized it was ok to tell people that I had been molested since I was 4. I was taught in school at 11 what sex was and at the same time I was taught what was not ok. I decided THAT DAY to tell someone at my school about what had been happening to me. The unfortunate thing is that my parents hadn't talked to me about any of this. So, there is the relevant argument about what parents should be teaching their kids at home. Then again, it could be your parents who are doing it to you It wasn't mine, it was another family member, but the point still stands. Not every child has a stable home life and they may not being taught this stuff at home. For some children, teachers are someone to trust and look up to.

I wish I had sex education in kindergarten. Maybe I wouldn't have suffered for as long as I did. Just something else to think about

[4dmin]

Yep. I do want my kids taught all of that I have specific experience in how "sex education" changed my life. I'll go ahead and say (even though it is very personal) that the exact time that I was taught IN SCHOOL about this stuff (age 11) is the time I realized it was ok to tell people that I had been molested since I was 4. I was taught in school at 11 what sex was and at the same time I was taught what was not ok. I decided THAT DAY to tell someone at my school about what had been happening to me. The unfortunate thing is that my parents hadn't talked to me about any of this. So, there is the relevant argument about what parents should be teaching their kids at home. Then again, it could be your parents who are doing it to you It wasn't mine, it was another family member, but the point still stands. Not every child has a stable home life and they may not being taught this stuff at home. For some children, teachers are someone to trust and look up to.

I wish I had sex education in kindergarten. Maybe I wouldn't have suffered for as long as I did. Just something else to think about

wow good post.

[Jaimecbr900]

Yep. I do want my kids taught all of that I have specific experience in how "sex education" changed my life. I'll go ahead and say (even though it is very personal) that the exact time that I was taught IN SCHOOL about this stuff (age 11) is the time I realized it was ok to tell people that I had been molested since I was 4. I was taught in school at 11 what sex was and at the same time I was taught what was not ok. I decided THAT DAY to tell someone at my school about what had been happening to me. The unfortunate thing is that my parents hadn't talked to me about any of this. So, there is the relevant argument about what parents should be teaching their kids at home. Then again, it could be your parents who are doing it to you It wasn't mine, it was another family member, but the point still stands. Not every child has a stable home life and they may not being taught this stuff at home. For some children, teachers are someone to trust and look up to.

I wish I had sex education in kindergarten. Maybe I wouldn't have suffered for as long as I did. Just something else to think about

While I totally understand and even agree that it's not a bad idea for schools to teach young children what to look for/stay away from in an effort to avoid or expose child molestation, trying to "teach" them about abortions, contraception, gay marriages, and masturbation have nothing to do with child molestation IMO.

BTW, I'm sorry to hear about your terrible experience.

[Jaimecbr900]

not just schools, he wants to initiate this into kindergarten. At the point where they wouldn't understand anything being talked about. Ignorant, really. Sexually active children and having kids when you're young has nothing to do with sex education. It's about being a good parent and making sure your child is aware of consequences. And i will agree with PUREjdm, your peers have more influence on you than anyone. Especially at the ages where sexual activity starts to occur. IT's cool to have sex. everyone knows that.

I think sex ed. should be taught in school, but Obama wants it to be taught in Kindergarden....are you fuking kidding me?

This is the problem with Obama's plan. He wants it to be "taught" way before it will ever make any sense and/or appropriate.

I have no problem with teaching sex ed in school, although I believe the real responsability lies with the parents at home. Parents should teach their own children about real life, including sex. If they are not comfortable talking about it, then maybe school sex ed. can open that channel of comm. for them (although that's the chicken way out).

BTW Paul, you should go look up the curriculum that Obama has in mind to teach. He proposes to teach very small children about gay marriages, masturbation, and condom use to kids that have no clue what any of that is. Makes no sense.

[willum14pb]

This is the problem with Obama's plan. He wants it to be "taught" way before it will ever make any sense and/or appropriate.

I have no problem with teaching sex ed in school, although I believe the real responsability lies with the parents at home. Parents should teach their own children about real life, including sex. If they are not comfortable talking about it, then maybe school sex ed. can open that channel of comm. for them (although that's the chicken way out).

BTW Paul, you should go look up the curriculum that Obama has in mind to teach. He proposes to teach very small children about gay marriages, masturbation, and condom use to kids that have no clue what any of that is. Makes no sense.

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The more i hear about obama the worse..