I am or am not voting for obama.. POLL

[willum14pb]

Ok you are right and I am wrong. 90% of black people, including the celebrities are voting for Obama. It took a black man to get people to vote. Yep all the young white kids with an open mind, along with countless other races, to finally get excited about voting to go and do it.

My personal feelings about why many people did not vote prior to now, esp blacks, is beacuse no candidate stood for anything worth voting for. It makes you feel like no one cares. Suppression, yes it was years ago, still lingers in some peoples menality. Yes, it took rappers, entertainers, and celebs to hit there target demographics to spark the interest. Are you familiar with the Hip Hop summit? It was getting minorites interested in politics long before diddy. It was targeted and it worked. Be excited Obama gives hope to more people that many others didn't, the colored JFK if you will, lol.

You are right, your crystal ball is godly. Its tells you percentages of the reason people are voting.

Hell, I feel that there are plenty blacks/whites putting on fronts for their friends and coworkers. When they go to cast their ballot many will surely pick the opposite of who they have been "supporting" in public.

You are right again, he changed his mind because he is stupid, not because he further opened his mind and looked at things a different way; admitting he was wrong and is human.

If someone would have listened and thought through situations more, we wouldn't be where we are today. Listening skills are taught at a young age, your inlelct and ability to decipher things are honed skills.

I am glad that you acknowledged and clarifyed that there black people voting for the right reasons. Thank you sir! Although many of your previous post on this board led me to believe otherwise, but thank you for fixing that.

I jumped the gun, so many true race haters are on this board, my apologies

Also, I never put words in your mouth. I stated a fact, just making sure that you knew there are shady tard-faced McCain voters.

I classified you as steretyping due to the nature and order of your words. I felt you did not put the poll question about "blacks voting for Obama/McCain b/c they understand thier policies" b/c you didn't think they knew. You corrected that notion for me, thanks again!

repped......


P.S> the first 3 snippets are sarcasm

love how, even if i bring up race, obama is apparently bringing something to the forefront that is going to make the african american community proud, and more recognized. This is just getting ridiculous, and you are further proving my point. Repped as well.

[AirMax95]

love how, even if i bring up race, obama is apparently bringing something to the forefront that is going to make the african american community proud, and more recognized. This is just getting ridiculous, and you are further proving my point. Repped as well.

Dude, its more to me than the presidental race. Alot of black youth need to see this for inspiration. Thats what I meant by that. 20 years ago, surely even further back, having anything CLOSE to Obama was stupid to everyone.

I like what lots of rappers are doing for the black communuity, but I personally look at other influential blacks. Obama is getting press, kids are excited to watch and learn. I know a better day is coming for this country. Like i said, whether he wins the election or not, he changed a lot of people for the better.

I am speaking from a person who sees the youth (pick a race) who think they have no hope, some with good/bad/no parenting.

It has nothing to do with recognition, trust me in this world no one owes you ****.

[willum14pb]

I just think that it's ****ing pathetic to bring the black community down a notch by what you're saying. You basically said "the black community didn't care enough who led this country, because it wasn't a black man. Obama has given us hope and taught blacks that you need to vote." What the ****? No he hasn't. The only thing obama has done is make the presidential race a joke, along with mccain. They both suck as candidates, and hugh hefner might as well be running for president. This election has lost all bearing about what it truly is about. Even mccain sold out by picking palin as his running mate to get the hilary votes. Either candidate, will **** up this country worse, or won't make it any better.

[BanginJimmy]

lol...don't even explain it to them. his argument was void when he started it with "he wants to increase spending..." he would've been better off saying, "i don't know anything about obama's policies, i just won't vote for him."

Actually he does want to increase spending

-870B to the UN for welfare in other countries
-Universal healthcare



I tried to get on Obama's site, but you have to register with them before they will let you on, claiming that it is checking to see if you are registered to vote.

[AirMax95]

I just think that it's ****ing pathetic to bring the black community down a notch by what you're saying. You basically said "the black community didn't care enough who led this country, because it wasn't a black man. Obama has given us hope and taught blacks that you need to vote." What the ****? No he hasn't. The only thing obama has done is make the presidential race a joke, along with mccain. They both suck as candidates, and hugh hefner might as well be running for president. This election has lost all bearing about what it truly is about. Even mccain sold out by picking palin as his running mate to get the hilary votes. Either candidate, will **** up this country worse, or won't make it any better.

Ok, I am not bringing anyone down. I am black, I know the inner workings of the race better than someone who is not. In the past, yes it was the case. There are other reasons, but that is a BIG front runner. People openly discussed it. I have been involved in this for a while. There are tons of American citizens who have the right to vote and do not.

.....and may I ask why you care soooooo much that more blacks are voting? DUDE, YOU ARE NOT VOTING for the same reasons! By you not liking either candidate you are not going to vote. After the election is over you better not ***** one bit. Good move You should still cast a vote for the lesser of the two evils!

And do not put words in my mouth! I never said because it was not a black man. Read my earlier post, this movement has been going on for years. It is peaking and getting more exposure than before. Do you not remember the Vote or Die tee's? Again, the Hip Hop Summit, several community initiaitves!

Here's something else I will hint at: timing is everything.

[tony]

Repubs just want an excuse for why McSame will lose.. it has nothing to do with the fact that he doesn't inspire or that he is out of touch with the people.. it has everything to do with those damn black people who all of a sudden care because theres a black man running for president.

Newsflash, I knocked on doors in the hood for the Obama campaign. More people there barely gave a rats ass about the election or who Obama is. (And they were all black)

[willum14pb]

Ok, I am not bringing anyone down. I am black, I know the inner workings of the race better than someone who is not. In the past, yes it was the case. There are other reasons, but that is a BIG front runner. People openly discussed it. I have been involved in this for a while. There are tons of American citizens who have the right to vote and do not.

.....and may I ask why you care soooooo much that more blacks are voting? DUDE, YOU ARE NOT VOTING for the same reasons! By you not liking either candidate you are not going to vote. After the election is over you better not ***** one bit. Good move You should still cast a vote for the lesser of the two evils!

And do not put words in my mouth! I never said because it was not a black man. Read my earlier post, this movement has been going on for years. It is peaking and getting more exposure than before. Do you not remember the Vote or Die tee's? Again, the Hip Hop Summit, several community initiaitves!

Here's something else I will hint at: timing is everything.

I dont care if black people vote. I Just think it's pathetic that it had to take someone of their color to motivate them to do it. It has nothing to do with the candidate and his views. MOSTLY. There is no difference in what these people have been doing for years to try to get people the vote, except there's the possibility of a black man now. That's the only difference. I'm not going to ***** if something happens in this country after the presidency. There is really no lesser of two evils, i disagree with both candidates so strongly on so many issues that it's unbelievable. No matter what happens, i don't see either candidate doing any good for this country in the long run, or even immediately.

[willum14pb]

Repubs just want an excuse for why McSame will lose.. it has nothing to do with the fact that he doesn't inspire or that he is out of touch with the people.. it has everything to do with those damn black people who all of a sudden care because theres a black man running for president.

Newsflash, I knocked on doors in the hood for the Obama campaign. More people there barely gave a rats ass about the election or who Obama is. (And they were all black)

duh?

Again, i am neither republican or democrat. I see out the candidate and vote based of views and policies announced. This election, i see no definitive reason to vote for either one.

[tony]

duh?

Again, i am neither republican or democrat. I see out the candidate and vote based of views and policies announced. This election, i see no definitive reason to vote for either one.

Its the stigma that blacks are voting for him cause he's black thing that works my nerves. Forget the fact that the man does inspire people to get involved.. at the least intrigued in politics.

[AirMax95]

I dont care if black people vote. I Just think it's pathetic that it had to take someone of their color to motivate them to do it. It has nothing to do with the candidate and his views. MOSTLY. There is no difference in what these people have been doing for years to try to get people the vote, except there's the possibility of a black man now. That's the only difference. I'm not going to ***** if something happens in this country after the presidency. There is really no lesser of two evils, i disagree with both candidates so strongly on so many issues that it's unbelievable. No matter what happens, i don't see either candidate doing any good for this country in the long run, or even immediately.

It has been an on going process! For years the numbers have grown, the media now only cares to publicize these percentages becuase Obama is not white! Sure more people chose to register. The strategies are different. 8 years ago, there were not as many young people getting up at the crack of dawn to register people to vote. Its all about getting people involved. When the next term to vote rolls around, the number will go up even further.

Again, show us your magical crystal ball? How much do you know about the intricaces of the black community, other that what the media shows you? You speak like you are the fly on everyones wall.

I think its pathetic that you are missing the simple points. The media got you man, sorry

[willum14pb]

Its the stigma that blacks are voting for him cause he's black thing that works my nerves. Forget the fact that the man does inspire people to get involved.. at the least intrigued in politics.

The only thing he inspires is a steaming pile of bull****. The fact that it's only black people that won't acknowledge the fact that there are blacks out there voting for him just because he's black. Luda, pdiddy, nas, all because he's black. They give no real reason to vote for this candidate. And like i said, the majority of black people i have talked to are voting for obama, and give direct quotes from the media, and really have no idea about his stance on anything or the fact that he changes his mind often. Also, why do you think voting from blacks is at an all time high? Because one day they all just decided to get up and vote? No dude, because they want to see a black guy in office. You know it's true, don't deny the facts and sheer reality of it. I honestly don't care, i just all the denial.

[tony]

The only thing he inspires is a steaming pile of bull****. .

That right there makes any argument you make null and void. Anything afterward is just bitter feelings you hold toward Obama.

[AirMax95]

That right there makes any argument you make null and void. Anything afterward is just bitter feelings you hold toward Obama.

Someone else see it too?

[Total_Blender]

You racist close minded ****. You just said the black community are the only people fighting aids, have bad public schooling, and are in a working class. I have totally voided anything you have to say at this point. You are by far, the most ignorant kid to post ever, in the history of life. .

I did not say that the Black community were the only people fighting AIDS, nor did I say they were the only community with bad public schools. And I didn't say that only Black people were working class. What I said was that these are particular concerns of the Black community and that they are probably more likely to vote for Obama because of those issues than McNugget.

You McNugget supporters talk about race a lot but are just as quick to throw around the term "Racist" whenever you think you can use it in your favor.

[AirMax95]

I did not say that the Black community were the only people fighting AIDS, nor did I say they were the only community with bad public schools. And I didn't say that only Black people were working class. What I said was that these are particular concerns of the Black community and that they are probably more likely to vote for Obama because of those issues than McNugget.

You McNugget supporters talk about race a lot but are just as quick to throw around the term "Racist" whenever you think you can use it in your favor.

......add the fact that this guy isn't even voting

I tried to clear it up for you, but he keeps missing it.

[Total_Blender]

The only thing he inspires is a steaming pile of bull****. The fact that it's only black people that won't acknowledge the fact that there are blacks out there voting for him just because he's black. Luda, pdiddy, nas, all because he's black.

They don't have to, you McNugget supporters do a pretty good job of pointing that out for them. Guess what... no one cares.

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the majority of black people i have talked to are voting for obama, and give direct quotes from the media, and really have no idea about his stance on anything or the fact that he changes his mind often.

Where are people supposed to get their information other than the media. I don't think just anyone could personally call Obama at his house and ask him about his policies.

Also, why do you think voting from blacks is at an all time high?.

I imagine the country is so polarized that voting from everyone is at an all time high. Maybe all those who has been shafted by 8 years of W are coming out of the woodwork and becoming active in the political process.

[Total_Blender]

I tried to get on Obama's site, but you have to register with them before they will let you on, claiming that it is checking to see if you are registered to vote.

Wikipedia has a list of his (And McCain's) positions on a lot of issues, good for a basic overview, anyway.

[AirMax95]

I tried to get on Obama's site, but you have to register with them before they will let you on, claiming that it is checking to see if you are registered to vote.

Anyone can go there. There is a "skip signup" option on the page.

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

[JITB]

lol y are u guys wasting your time with anything to do with kayfunk.....the poll itself was clear visual of his mental retardation, and lack of any sort of sense.

[JConner]

I'm not voting for him because he stands for bigger spending and more taxes. Plus he wants to give the government control over my health care. This is the same government that has run SS, Medicare, and Medicaid into the ground. Anytime bureaucrats try and manage money we lose.

AMEN

[The_ CaneCorso]

Another poll I see. About mccain being old or obama being black or muslim or w/e.

[blaknoize]

Repubs just want an excuse for why McSame will lose.. it has nothing to do with the fact that he doesn't inspire or that he is out of touch with the people.. it has everything to do with those damn black people who all of a sudden care because theres a black man running for president.

Newsflash, I knocked on doors in the hood for the Obama campaign. More people there barely gave a rats ass about the election or who Obama is. (And they were all black)

Yea even alotta my friends didnt wanna vote nor really cared at all. So long as they got paid, it was the least of their concerns.

[stephen]

Actually he does want to increase spending

-870B to the UN for welfare in other countries
-Universal healthcare



I tried to get on Obama's site, but you have to register with them before they will let you on, claiming that it is checking to see if you are registered to vote.

-here...i found it for you. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/ it's $50 billion, not 870B. still...that's like what...5 months worth of what we spend to fight in iraq? not to mention, this is a $25 billion increase from what we already give...so that's what...2.5 months of the iraq war? this is also a PROJECTED plan for the year 2015, meaning it'd only be possible if: 1) we get out of debt and 2) if he even gets a 2nd term.

-universal healthcare...how i hate those words. regardless, how can you NOT vote for him because he wants to spend MORE MONEY TO IMPROVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S HEALTHCARE? technically, it's not UNIVERSAL (which is exactly what hillary said), but that's another argument. regardless...2 terrible reasons not to vote for the man...ESPECIALLY if you don't know his policies.

and if tax cuts is what you all want, maybe you should research the reagan era. he gave tax cuts, and ended up having to increase taxes 6 TIMES in order to turn America into a 3rd world country. now we have a $9.5 TRILLION dollar debt and mccain is promising TAX CUTS? PLEASE tell me you see something wrong with that picture? by the way...what comes after a trillion???

[stephen]

... BUT, no one knows what obama stands for, not even himself. He has changed his mind countless times on almost every issue brought to the table....

... Both candidates are horrible choices for this country, i think i hate mccain more than i hate obama....

... FYI for everyone, i am not even voting, both candidates suck total ass, i can't stand mccain, but i really can't stand obama...

wow, and all it took for you to change your mind was an explanation of why obama is a positive figure for the black community? interesting

[Kevykev]

LOL..what a corrupted poll.

[blaknoize]

As we all see stephen can break down even the hardest things for McCain voters into simple terms, which are easily searchable on this vast thing we call: The Internet. And if u have watched TV recently u will notice that the internet cant hide anymore, so there's no excuse not to know or at least FIND something related to this biased racist azz thread.

[twins]

I'm a native american and I'm not voting for him because of his relgion and for the fact that he don't have the exp. needed to lead us!

[JITB]

I'm a native american and I'm not voting for him because of his relgion and for the fact that he don't have the exp. needed to lead us!

what religion is that?

[amped4life33]

If you are black and you are voting for Obama JUST because hes black too, then YOU are a prime example of why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

[AirMax95]

If you are black and you are voting for Obama JUST because hes black too, then YOU are a prime example of why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

That is one of the most ignorant post on IA that I have seen. Please drive yourself off a cliff.

No, that is NOT why white racist fukks did not let black people vote for a couple hundred of years. Its because those whites were ignorant, lying, and decitful disgraces of human beings.

on that note.....

If you are white, and are voting for McCain JUST because he is white too, then YOU are a prime example that white people can be ignorant too.

If you are white, and are NOT voting for Obama JUST because he is black, then YOU are a prime example of why this racism exist in this country; and that you are ignorant

[SLOWLYbtngU]

If you are black and you are voting for Obama JUST because hes black too, then YOU are a prime example of why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

I am so disgusted with this post. If you have something to say, back it with intellect not stupidity. Ignorance is not knowing. When you posted this crap you knew exactly what you were saying and that makes you a f*cking idiot... I cant believe you typed that and at the same time I bet you are one of the people that back your bias by saying that "it isnt a racial thing," you just prefer McCain.

[Dirty Octopus™]

why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

damn!

is you or isnt you a racist sumbítch?

[twins]

muslim and you can't say he isn't. because at first he said he was now he said he's not can't make up his mind!

[JITB]

muslim and you can't say he isn't. because at first he said he was now he said he's not can't make up his mind!

lol it seems like youve made up your mind... His father was a muslim. Dont know too many muslims that attend a baptist church for 20 years... But if your sure...

[JITB]

If you are black and you are voting for Obama JUST because hes black too, then YOU are a prime example of why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

You might be the dumbest person on IA..

i like how you worded that, like black could vote for a minute.. Than their right was taken away for a few hundred years.. Than given back... .

I mean but by your location - Car - I cant expect much mental compacity... so i guess your excused....

[EJ25RUN]

You might be the dumbest person on IA..

common, JITB

that was some epic stupid but you and i have seen worse

hint hint

[JITB]

common, JITB

that was some epic stupid but you and i have seen worse

hint hint

the creation of this thread by Kayfunk... i stand corrected..

[Kevykev]

If you are black and you are voting for Obama JUST because hes black too, then YOU are a prime example of why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

Prime example of why people call people stupid, because of people like YOU!

Pure Ignorance is hilarious. Your statement, whether applied to the modern system or the past system is WRONG.

And he said "WE" like he was on the council board, just should be ashamed.

[Dwisforme05]

If you are black and you are voting for Obama JUST because hes black too, then YOU are a prime example of why we didnt let black people vote for a couple hundred years...

dude thats fuked up.

[amped4life33]

Ok, guys lets take everything literally...i didn't literally mean that black people couldn't vote because of that. I was just making a point. And yes, I completely and 100% agree with the fellow who says that if you are white and you vote for McCain just because you are white then you are in the same boat. The point i was trying to make is, don't vote for someone who is black or white or green or yellow or purple or blue, just because YOU are black or white or green or yellow or purple or blue.

Im not racist at all...i just think its an ignorant decision to vote for someone because they have the same skin tone as you, which is one of the options from the original poll. God damn, remind me not to be metaphorical or practical anymore on this forum...