Being most of us are from GA,
I expect Mccain to have a lot more votes,
but lets see!
Mccain or Obama, this time with a poll!!!!!!!!
Being most of us are from GA,
I expect Mccain to have a lot more votes,
but lets see!
Another BS political thread.
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Sorry, I forgot to put Hillary on there for you...Another BS political thread.
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot to care that you are making another BS POLITICAL THREAD LIKE THE OTHER 2395245246 THREADS ABOUT IT ON HERE, most of which contain mindless rambling and mudslinging about the other candidate a person isn't voting for instead of highlighting the positive about the one they are voting for.
Of course, I expect nothing less from a site containing a good bit of uneducated sheep.
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watch itOh I'm sorry, I forgot to care that you are making another BS POLITICAL THREAD LIKE THE OTHER 2395245246 THREADS ABOUT IT ON HERE, most of which contain mindless rambling and mudslinging about the other candidate a person isn't voting for instead of highlighting the positive about the one they are voting for.
Of course, I expect nothing less from a site containing a good bit of uneducated sheep.
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Why? Are you one of them?watch it
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this election seems to have nothing to do with mccain, its more obama and palin running now
McCain but very reluctantly
Dont like either, not sure if I will vote for either. I am scared of both.
Honestly I don't know who to vote for. I don't like either, but Obama IMO seems a lot smarter than McCain. Atleast that's what I get off from his speaches. Still, I would prefer neither one of these men to be president.
this wouldnt really be a valid poll since in real voting you cant see who other people vote for.
of course McCain in GA cuz its all republicans here
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obama i hope more people on ia see this poll then we will see the true percentages
~58% for McCain to ~32% for Obama. Its a little lower than I expected for McCain, but then again we are all just clinging to our guns and religion anyways.
This is obviously not a vote of any meaning but i wonder if this is a category where a private ballet makes sense.
I thought that only stood for the midwest... which alot of them do. ESPECIALLY WHERE IM FROM...
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the current situations going on in the world and our canidates responses makes me worry that both canidates are conforming to make the lying evil media channels happy.
This has been happening for about 6 months now. Both have been steadily moving towards the middle even. McCain is pretty liberal to start as a republcan, but Obama has tempered his rhetoric to the point that a good friend of mine from Chicago, and an Obama supporter, is having doubts about him.
Suprising that McCain as of now has 2 more votes on here. I voted McCain
This site will definately have a more liberal edge to it then the overall population of Georgia.
but yes, Mitt Romney was the better choice
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Obama w/o a doubt - most americans can't afford another 4 years of republicans in the white house. Rising cost, jobs loss, outsourcing, oil prices, healthcare, education, war, etc. No explanation is needed.
That explains why he is in the sponsor rotation at the top of this forum.
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gonna start some **** with the admin here
going to have to expand on this. Are you taking about food prices or just the general price of everything?
a large part of this is corporate taxes, which dems want to raise again. The US has the second highest corporate tax rate in the world with only Japan being higher.
has nothing to do with the president. If you look back, you will notice that prices started going down just as soon as Bush repealed the presidential ban on offshore drilling. If Pelosi had allowed a vote in the house it would have passed and further lowered the price. Also Obama wants these extra taxes on oil companies. These extra taxes will immediately be added into the costs of doing business and added to the price at the pump.
not the govt's job to take care of your health, thats an individual responsibility.
is a mess. Americans are getting dumber compared to the rest of the world. Allowing a voucher system to allow parents to send their kids to private schools had maked improvement in FL until the teachers unions took the govt to court on the issue and won.
a valid gripe, but Obama isnt going to end it either.
I agree, Obama is NOT the answer to our curent problems.
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why is that? Because I dont like Obama's politics? I'd be happy to entertain anything that isnt factual about my post.
Last time I checked Japan's manufacturing sector isn't suffering too badly.
Its very strong based off of trade with the US, but it has slowed considerably with the industrialization of China.Last time I checked Japan's manufacturing sector isn't suffering too badly.
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yes all cost are rising in the US yet our gov't has not taken any steps to help strengthen our economy - tell me one thing BUSH has done to help out the economy and don't even say stimulus checks b/c that was a joke. McCain is too busy saying Obama doesn't have experience to even explain his vision for our economy. his ads try to portray focus on his military background - guess what that is the least of most Americans worries after 8 years of same talk
again this goes back to rising cost - do you honestly think that is the main factor the US is outsourcing? if so you need to do a lot more research. health care/benefit cost are soring and outsourcing your workers to India gets you 3x the staff for le$$
drilling offshore will have not impact on our current oil price situation many economist have already debated this and we would see pennys at retail
you obviously don't get out of the country much - many other countries have private + gov't regulated healthcare and it works fine - its pretty easy to say it isn't the gov't job yet when i bring out outsourcing and high unemployment rates you say it is due to tax cuts
voucher system and no child left behind is a joke. do you know what it is costing us to allow inner city parents to choose to take their children to private school that you and i have to pay for? not to include my children would not have such luxury's b/c how much i make an where we live.
Mccain has no vision and has yet to explain what he plans on doing differently then our current administration who has gotten us in quite a pickle. I like Obama b/c he seems fresh and could POSSIBLY i say possibly b/c neither candidate are amazing, but I think he could bring major impact to the US.
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Very well stated.yes all cost are rising in the US yet our gov't has not taken any steps to help strengthen our economy - tell me one thing BUSH has done to help out the economy and don't even say stimulus checks b/c that was a joke. McCain is too busy saying Obama doesn't have experience to even explain his vision for our economy. his ads try to portray focus on his military background - guess what that is the least of most Americans worries after 8 years of same talk
again this goes back to rising cost - do you honestly think that is the main factor the US is outsourcing? if so you need to do a lot more research. health care/benefit cost are soring and outsourcing your workers to India gets you 3x the staff for le$$
drilling offshore will have not impact on our current oil price situation many economist have already debated this and we would see pennys at retail
you obviously don't get out of the country much - many other countries have private + gov't regulated healthcare and it works fine - its pretty easy to say it isn't the gov't job yet when i bring out outsourcing and high unemployment rates you say it is due to tax cuts
voucher system and no child left behind is a joke. do you know what it is costing us to allow inner city parents to choose to take their children to private school that you and i have to pay for? not to include my children would not have such luxury's b/c how much i make an where we live.
Mccain has no vision and has yet to explain what he plans on doing differently then our current administration who has gotten us in quite a pickle. I like Obama b/c he seems fresh and could POSSIBLY i say possibly b/c neither candidate are amazing, but I think he could bring major impact to the US.
On that note, there will never be a President that will solve all the problems. They can only offer us the best possible soultion that they feel will fix the prob.
this is true - too much personal interest in politics which always leads to no end results; this is why very little ever gets done.
I'm going for Obama on this one.
John McCain was born privileged, and has been privileged. Generally speaking, those are the kind of people who think they're entitled to commit crimes when they take the presidency. Not only that, but his education is pathetic compared to Obama's. He would be the oldest person elected to the presidency, so there's a good chance he might die in office, and leave us with that god damned utterly inexperienced idiot Sarah Palin running the country.
Make no mistake about it, if the Republicans get into office again, they will run this country into the ground. We will have some more pretend wars, backed the bible and plenty of bullets, with no clear enemy, or objective. Probably a few more Iran-Contra affairs, which seem trivial compared to enacting preemptive war policies, and knowingly acting on bad information, declaring war without the approval of congress, and invading countries that posed no threat to National Security.
These inarticulate republicans screw their pants on, and have no problem mentioning "God" to try and sway public opinion and get the religious crowd worked into a pathetic impish frenzy.
Neither is John McCain. He just picked an idiot for VP, to try and pick up all the anti-penis votes Hillary left behind.
This entire race has been bull****, and the American media is partly to blame. I wish someone would firebomb Fox News. If we weren't a nation of panicked sheep, this election would be no contest. But now we have to play the "Experienced Hero" vs. The Educated Community Organizer game.
Is doesn't take a genius to understand that one is good for making war (seizing capitalist opportunities under the guise of threatened national security), and not much else, and one is good for... get this "organizing" "communities". But of course America is a machine, not a community.
So maybe a mechanic would be just as qualified...
**** John McCain.
Privledged can be interpreited in a bunch of different ways. John Mccain and Obama's parrent's both exactly didn't make a **** ton of money. Last I checked military career's weren't exactly the roads to riches. Did his Dad have a certian amount of power? Yes. Did his son take advantage of it? Not really.
Kinda like the crime that Clinton got away with?Generally speaking, those are the kind of people who think they're entitled to commit crimes when they take the presidency. Not only that, but his education is pathetic compared to Obama's.
I love how people play this up like he's going to die tommorow. Frankly I see it this way. Some of the oldest guys who have occupied the oval office have made it through their terms and some of the youngest guys didn't. The names Lincoln and Kennedy ring a bell?He would be the oldest person elected to the presidency, so there's a good chance he might die in office, and leave us with that god damned utterly inexperienced idiot Sarah Palin running the country.. Don't get me started on Palin, at least she has done something with her carrer. And besides I know someone working to fix that "problem"
What and the democrats won't? Look at Congress. It is DEMOCRAT controlled with little opposition from the president and gets nothing done and has an approval rating lower than that of the President.Make no mistake about it, if the Republicans get into office again, they will run this country into the ground.
And under Obama we will have the greatest redistribution of wealth the world has ever seen. And we will have tea parties with nations hell bent on destroying the world and act like nothing is wrong. I think that this country has learned from it's "mistake" and something liek this will likely not happen again in our life time. I do however believe that Iran does pose a real threat but I think Pakistan and Russia need to be dealt with first.We will have some more pretend wars, backed the bible and plenty of bullets, with no clear enemy, or objective. Probably a few more Iran-Contra affairs, which seem trivial compared to enacting preemptive war policies, and knowingly acting on bad information, declaring war without the approval of congress, and invading countries that posed no threat to National Security.
Someone needs to send one to ONN.......oops I mean CNN if we are going to be fair here.This entire race has been bull****, and the American media is partly to blame. I wish someone would firebomb Fox News. If we weren't a nation of panicked sheep, this election would be no contest. But now we have to play the "Experienced Hero" vs. The Educated Community Organizer game.
LOL.RightIt doesn't take a genius to understand that one is good for making war (seizing capitalist opportunities under the guise of threatened national security), and not much else, and one is good for... get this "organizing" "communities". But of course America is a machine, not a community.
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Ummm Kennedy was shot in the head because he scared some important people, but it would take a moron to pretend he died due to natural human life expectancy issues. 72 is pushing it for almost anyone, let alone a president.Privledged can be interpreited in a bunch of different ways. John Mccain and Obama's parrent's both exactly didn't make a **** ton of money. Last I checked military career's weren't exactly the roads to riches. Did his Dad have a certian amount of power? Yes. Did his son take advantage of it? Not really.
Kinda like the crime that Clinton got away with?
I love how people play this up like he's going to die tommorow. Frankly I see it this way. Some of the oldest guys who have occupied the oval office have made it through their terms and some of the youngest guys didn't. The names Lincoln and Kennedy ring a bell?
What and the democrats won't? Look at Congress. It is DEMOCRAT controlled with little opposition from the president and gets nothing done and has an approval rating lower than that of the President.
And under Obama we will have the greatest redistribution of wealth the world has ever seen. And we will have tea parties with nations hell bent on destroying the world and act like nothing is wrong. I think that this country has learned from it's "mistake" and something liek this will likely not happen again in our life time. I do however believe that Iran does pose a real threat but I think Pakistan and Russia need to be dealt with first.
Someone needs to send one to ONN.......oops I mean CNN if we are going to be fair here.
LOL.Right
I love how all the McCain supporters defend the rich as if they're all so wealthy. The redistribution of wealth won't be nearly as drastic as you think. Do you really expect the poverty stricken to pay the taxes? THEY DONT HAVE ANY MONEY. YOU CANT GET IT OUT OF THEM. If we are going to keep blowing money on a war we simply can't afford, why not tax the rich? Chances are they voted these people into power... To quote every conservative I've ever talked to "Freedom isn't free.". We can't blow $12 billion a day on a war that accomplishes nothing (other than of course creating heros) if we aren't going to have the balls to tax people for it.
"We will have tea parties..." Are you kidding me. Don't get me wrong Obama has a following but alot of people are only going for him because they think he's less of a lunatic than John McCain.
I'd go on but I'm tired...
1.Rising costs of? Kinda open ended
2. Did you know that more jobs are actually lost every yet to the advancement of technology then simple lay offs due to economic down turn?
3.Outsourcing really has nothing to do with the republican party. If anything it really has more to do with the Dems as they want to Continue to raise corporate tax rates in the U.S. when we are already the country with the 2nd highest corporate tax rates. Not to mention unions discourage companies from hiring people here.
4.Oil Prices. I mean come on seriously. You honestly still think that the price of oil is on Bush and the Republican party?.
5.Education-That I'll give you. But I like McCain's idea on vouchers so that you can go where ever you want
6.-Healthcare-I'll give you this one also but I like McCain's idea on $5,000 tax rebate for health care
7.-War-Eh.....not even gonna go here.
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1) if it needs explanation then you obviously don't live in the US1.Rising costs of? Kinda open ended
2. Did you know that more jobs are actually lost every yet to the advancement of technology then simple lay offs due to economic down turn?
3.Outsourcing really has nothing to do with the republican party. If anything it really has more to do with the Dems as they want to Continue to raise corporate tax rates in the U.S. when we are already the country with the 2nd highest corporate tax rates. Not to mention unions discourage companies from hiring people here.
4.Oil Prices. I mean come on seriously. You honestly still think that the price of oil is on Bush and the Republican party?
5.Education-That I'll give you. But I like McCain's idea on vouchers so that you can go where ever you want
6.-Healthcare-I'll give you this one also but I like McCain's idea on $5,000 tax rebate for health care
7.-War-Eh.....not even gonna go here.
2) in general this could be so but not at our current state - even w/ new technology education drives such and we are at the bottom of that as well for being a world super power
3) i didn't say it has to do w/ either party - i'm saying 8 years of republican white house has had no bearing on this situation
4) again - do you know how much $ has been spent on the war; we could of build mass transit systems in probably every major region of the US - demand goes down so do price simple economics
5) obviously you guys don't understand how vouchers and no child left behind is currently working
6) there are already personal tax breaks for medical usage - it doesn't help a broken system
7) no need to answer
Mcain all the way.
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