2006+ civic tuning--hondata flash-pro
The FlashPro allows full user tuning and datalogging of late model performance Civics. It includes Windows based software called FlashProManager.
The FlashPro connects from your laptop's USB port to your vehicles diagnostic port to provide 90 second programming with a variety of calibrations with extensive real time and stored datalogging capabilities.
Please do not call Hondata for additional information - this page contains all the information available at the moment.
Supported vehicles
Vehicle ECU Part Number FlashPro Part Number
2006 + US Civic Si RRB-A01 through RRB-A14 FP-SI-US
2007 + European Civic Type R RSP-E01 through RSP-E03 FP-SI-INT
2007 + Japanese Civic Type R RRC-J01 through RRC-J04 FP-SI-INT
Important: Make sure that you order the correct FlashPro, and that FlashPro will work with your ECU. We recommend that your check your ECU is compatible by checking your ECU part number below.
The ECU part number is located on the ECU, which is located in the engine bay next to the battery. You will need to remove a plastic cover in order to see the sticker containing the part number.
Price and availability
$795 in June 2009
Caution: While Hondata is not taking FlashPro pre-orders, we have noticed that some individuals and organizations are taking money for FlashPro pre-orders. Many of these are not authorized Hondata dealers. Make sure you order your FlashPro through a Hondata authorized dealer so that you obtain the full benefits of the FlashPro, including warranty.
Features
FlashPro features
Programmable ECU interface.
Connects via OBDII diagnostic port.
USB 2.0 connection
Works with Laptop or Desktop
No ECU modification necessary.
90 second ECU programming time.
20 hours on board datalogging memory.
FlashProManager Windows software.
Check and clear diagnostic codes.
Custom laptop gauges.
Theft mitigation
2006+ Civic Si / Civic Type R tuning features
Choice of AFM or MAP based tuning.
Support for MAP based forced induction.
Support for larger injectors.
Ignition, fuel, cam angle table editing.
VTEC window.
Rev, launch and speed limiters.
Race vehicle sensor disabling.
Plus other compensation and trim tables.
Map tracing
Will the FlashPro be available for other Hondas and Acuras?
The FlashPro has the potential to work with most new model Hondas and Acuras made since 2007. Our focus for the moment is for the Civic and will evaluate other models as time permits.
I already have a reflash. Is there a discount?
Yes, for 3 months from the date of release a discount is offered to existing Civic Si reflash owners. In order to qualify for the discount, the ECU will need to be sent to Hondata for reflash verification.
The discount is $150 for existing Civic Si reflash owners which includes free overnight return shipping. (additional $50 value)
If you choose not to send in your ECU for a discount the FlashPro will still work perfectly for your car,.
How does it compare to KPro?
KPro is a completely different product. It was created for the 02-04 RSX style ECU. It will only work on that type of ECU with the exact same Oki processor. Honda has changed the architecture of the ECU, including ECU architecture, processor and encapsulation, so that there is no way the KPro can be made to work on any other ECU.
K-Pro requires the ECU be sent to a Hondata for the installation of the K-Pro daughterboard. By comparison, new FlashPro owners need never remove the ECU from their car.
Because FlashPro is a different product from KPro, it has different features. Not all features implemented in KPro are possible with FlashPro.
The Flash Pro will not have boost or nitrous control. However if you have an external boost controller the Race calibration will deliver the correct fuel and ignition for that boost level.
If you run nitrous, you will be able to run a calibration that is far safer and make more power than you would with a stock ECU.
Questions and Answers
- Are there base calibrations?
Yes, for all common part combinations, plus JR and CT superchargers.
- Do I need dyno tuning?
It would be similar to just adding common part combinations (intake, exhaust) to stock ecu, but you will benefit from custom tuning if you wish to get a little more. Camshafts and race headers probably will need tuning to get the most of the them - it will depend on the manufacturer.
- Can I get rid of the AFM?
You can switch to a MAP based calibration (recommended for forced induction and/or cams). You need to still physically retain the AFM because it also contains the IAT sensor.
- I've already paid a deposit on my CT supercharger Stage 2 reflash. Can I upgrade to FlashPro?
If your ECU is sent in before the FlashPro is released you will get the Stage 2 reflash.
If you paid a deposit for a Stage II reflash, you will need to discuss upgrade options with whoever took your deposit as neither CT Engineering or Hondata take deposits.
- Will this work on R18s or automatics?
Initially the FlashPro is for the US/Canada Si and Euro/Asia CTR. ECU part numbers are listed on our website.
- Will this work on more than one vehicle?
The FlashPro is locked to one vehicle. It can be unlocked and transferred to another vehicle by returning the ECU to stock.
- Can I share the calibrations I make for my car?
Yes.
- Do I need the laptop in the vehicle to reflash the ECU?
No. The FlashPro can upload either with or without a laptop.
- Is there a VTEC window?
Yes. This means that VTEC will operate based on rpm and engine load. For example, the supercharger reflashes have a VTEC window from 3200 rpm - 6000 rpm. At full throttle, VTEC operates at 3200 rpm. At light throttle, VTEC operates at 6000 rpm, and for load between full and light the VTEC will shift between 3200 rpm and 6000 rpm.
- So does that mean 1 unit Hondata FlashPro can only work with one ecu or car only? Which mean i can't buy one FlashPro and use it together with a few of my buddies Civics?
One ECU and vehicle at a time. You can unlock the FlashPro by returning the ECU to stock, and then transfer to another vehicle.
- Does it have control over DBW?
Yes, but we don't change anything to do with DBW. The first reason is that there is no need to - the DBW control works fairly well as it is. The second reason is for legal liability.
- Any option of immobilizer control?
The immobilizer can not be disabled. We've implemented a number of features designed to protect the owner of the vehicle from theft, and one of these is not to allow the immobilizer to be disabled. This is going to be much less of an issue than previous products because the ECU does not need to be removed / swapped.
- 90 sec programming - does that mean it can't do real time tuning?
Correct. In any case, if you are tuning a vehicle, you need to wait longer than 90 seconds between dyno runs in order to maintain consistency between runs. If you think you could set the dyno up as constant rpm or load, and then tune each cell in each table, this type of tuning does not work because the engine temperature and therefore output changes fairly rapidly, prohibiting this type of tuning.
- If the ECU had been reflashed by another maker, can FlashPro still work?
Probably - we could tell you based off the ECU part & serial numbers plus the calibration ID. When you unlock the FlashPro it will only be reflashed back to a stock calibration.
-Will this support a 64-Bit Windows Vista?
Not at first. We need to make sure the USB driver is working 100% before handing over the money to Microsoft, because after that every change to the USB driver incurs a substantial cost to re-certify.
- Can it control nitrous?
Not at the moment. However, you can at least control the ignition timing to make nitrous safer.
- Preorders?
Hondata is not taking preorders, but some of our dealers are.
- Will dealers need a software license?
No. Every FlashPro will come with the full tuning software FlashProManager.
- Do I need to send my ECU to Hondata?
No. Your ECU does not need to be modified for FlashPro.
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