i was speaking of my motors that i have built and i have dyno sheets to prove were there peaked and were they fell off. I mean of course there are h22s out there making hp past 8300 just not mine. I am running alot more cubic inches then nemo was and a smaller cam . We also cut nemos head bigger for the bigger cams were we cut ours smaller for the stagge 2 cams were running . I have yet to build our race motor or even went all out with this motor its my dads dd. The car were racing right now is a bunch of stuff i have had for years in my dd that my dad started fooling with trying to see how much power he could get out of it and still keep it dependable ., Everything we have done to this motor was to make power down low in order to make it last long and be more depenable .It has over 15,000 miles on it now and a tone of track times. These cams have been in 5 different motors and still seem to amaze me everytime my dad does a little more they pump out a few more ponys. I figured they would be maxed out by now but there not. I mean were running a 2.5 inch muffler shop exaust with a resonator and muffler you cant even hear the car till he gets in it . Im sure we could take this motor to a whole new level but no need to its busting ass like it is and is very dependable. I also have a cx hatch waiting for the new build and everything but rods to build the new build so no need in messing this one up sometimes just leave well enough alone. Im also running type s springs and retainers now do i think they will hold these cams to 9,500 rpms yes i have no doubt (since ive miss shifted several times with no problems) but no need to beat our dd to death either. nemo had a hell of a motor that flowed a tone of air it realy suprised me but id rather have 20 more hp across the mid range then make hp a few rpms higher . Ill post graph if i can find it to explain what i mean .I mean our top hp number going up isnt even what has ever impressed me about our motor its that everytime we do something to it the mid range gains 20 more hp this thing pulls hard from start to finish and were not running h2b . Im sure we could cut the head bigger ,install bigger cams , open up the exaust and it might make hp at a higher rpm but we will save all that for the motor im building now. If you have a dyn of a all motor h22 dyno making power over 8300 rpm id like to see it because ibe searched and searched on honda tech and ive found one besides nemos . I drealy be interested if it has a h23 crank and bigger pistons thats alot of air to flow id like to see what head there running . The head my dad cut for my motor and nemos head is big thats why it made hp all the way to 8400 and then i think it plained off and held it ill have to find the dyno it was nice though.