I wasn't ranting, I was stating my opinion, just like you were. Maybe you should do some fucking reading.Originally Posted by MusicManG3
I wasn't ranting, I was stating my opinion, just like you were. Maybe you should do some fucking reading.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
--RIP Val, You will be missed--
Its funny to me how closely this mimics the Super Street RB25 install article, almost word for word. Your memory is like a steel trap.
And youve GOT to be shitting me, the KA-T becoming the one of the most powerful motors for a 240? Theres 10 I can think of that Id rather swap in, the RB20 being one of them.
KA-T ftl all day long.
WTF are you talking about? I haven't read Super Street in YEARS. It's called simple logic. The fact that you say this is the same thing as they were saying just shows me that they might actually finally be coming to their sences instead of just featuring a bunch of ricer garbage, which is what made me stop reading it in the first place. I only read Sport Compact Car.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
Who the fuck are you? I've owned PLENTY of nice Nissans. I just picked a better platform for what I want to do.
Go drift into a glacier.
Now for the comedy gold: This douche was born in 1988. I bought my CRX in 1996. When I started doing import performance this fag wasn't even double digits in age yet!
That should tell you how much his opinion means, Jay!
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
SHIT.
I GAVE MUSIC MAN POSITIVE REPS ON ACCIDENT.
No way.
KA-T rocks.
As long as its a KA24E-T.
If you want to put down 200 whp then ka-t or rb20 doesn't matter.
If you dont want to be a pussy, then get another motor.
About as smart as he is old.
I would like to see what kind of trash he drives. No respect for the VR-4 usually means S13.
This was about 3 years ago. Also, it was in Sport Compact Car, I was mistaken. Either way u are full of shit.
Last edited by skillzilla; 08-06-2006 at 01:25 PM.
Man youve gotta be kidding me. Nearly ever person in this thread im sure has more experience than you with automotive performance, especially Chris. Tuck your tail and run away please.
Bitch who in the fuck do you think you are talking to? I didn't get that shit from a fucking magazine, you douchebag. You are just mad because you have a fucking boat anchor in your car and everybody is laughing at you for it. I bet I have been doing import performance longer than you, and have forgotten more about it than you know so your pile-o-opinion means less than a burning sack of shit to me.
Go change your tampon and come back with a better attitude, bitch.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
hahaha YOURE telling ME to check my attitude? Hows this: Eat my ass, fucker. Youre spouting off to me, not knowing what I know, what I have, or what I am. Youre E-thug to the fullest man, go take that shit to someone who cares what you or anyone on IA thinks. Why would I need to validate anything about myself to a bunch of IA douchebags? Some people have more of an existance than self-righteous posting on a notoriously thuggish ruggish forum and aspiring to be lead donkey.
Did you get youre new SCC issue yet? Pull any sweet ideas out of it yet? You better hurry, someone might beat you to it...
You drive an S13 with a boat anchor in the front of it. You obviously don't know much. If you don't think that I can come up with common logic on my own and that I get it from a magazine you are truly a sad, sad, individual.
The bottom line is you bought an RB20 because it is cheap, thinking you were going to get a steak dinner for Taco Bell prices. Since you didn't get it and still drive a pile your tampon is full and you lash out at people with common sence trying to justify the fact that you made the wrong choice. It's really a pitty.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
Look you drive an rb20 car.
You obviously have a handicap sticker on your s13.
Yeah, I drive a s13, building a KADET built bottom end. And Nowhere do I claim to have fountains of knowledge and experience. I honestly dont care either. You get no respect or props from me simply because your a cocky duchebag. Galant VR4...Looks like my grandma's grocery runner. May be fast, may be all wheel drive. Big deal, so is a WRX, so is the 3000GT VR4. Both nicer cars than yours.
And I'm a Auto-X/Drift type of guy. I like my car on a track. Take a look at amature GT racing, how many galants to you see on there, and how many s13's do you see on there. So, your comment on "no respect for the vr4 usually means s13" Is pointless.
AND SO WHAT IF YOU THINK THERE ARE MORE POWERFUL ENGINES OUT THERE. Get the fucking money to have one and install it and talk about. Go back to painting the dash on your fucking civic. KA-t's are hitting the 9's, easly drop into the 12's while still remaining very streetable cars and it doesnt cost a fortune to do. So what is your arguement?
There are 53,345,345,363 s13's and a few thousand GVR-4s.
Let me know when that KA-T is done so I drag your ass down the street.
240 people kill my ass. Get the money to have a powerful engine and then talk about it?
Well then lets talk noob. What about my 350 whp s14 that was autocrossed, drag raced, and was reliable as fuck, and will look 10 billion times better than your hunk of shit s13?
You think I drive a Galant VR-4 because I don't have the money to drive something else?
Throw your KA in the trash can.
Both nicer? So they both have leather, 4WS, and things of that nature? That's a new one to me.
And you are also questioning the Galant's racing abilities because you don't see them at some amature shit? News flash: They were only produced for 2 years in limited numbers (3000 total, if I remember correctly). Now, compare that to the 2398702795870984757 S13s on the road. You draw your own conclusion.
Besides, Galants were used more for Rally Racing:
Know WTF you are talking about before you speak.
Run along now and let the grown ups talk.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
Dude, Jay, he is building a built bottom end.
By that he means, he plans on one day buying rods and pistons. Or he already blew his rings and is too poor to afford new ones so is waiting for his next welfare check so he can buy new rings.
Damn building a bottom end for over 300hp must suck.
Building it for under 300 sucks more...
lol
This thread fucking owns.
hahaha that pic is fucking sick, I love it.
And I built an Rb20 S13 because I could do it with side money and not worry about crashing it into a tree or running it off a cliff. I could also beat the living shit out of it and be able to pick up a long block for 500 if something lets go (BTW, they are good to 400 stock, so I dont see that happening). Its not my Daily Driver, its not even my other Daily Driver. This is why I dont get butt hurt over Rb20 slander
Goddamn where did you find that picture? I love it. Thats the old Mofugas Maine Rally SCCA car. The next year it was totalled. I have the o2 external dump on my car.
this thread is great, i have nothing to contribute at this time except this...
do you think it might be possible for an s14 with an rb20 to be gayer?
"...I'm a thief, I'm a liar, There's my church, I sing in the choir..."
I've been driving my friends rb25 s13 lately and it sucks ass.
I want to kill myself each time I get in that car. Mainly because the shifter is fucked up and I never have any clue what gear I'm in or where the fuck I'm shifting to.
You should try an automatic. One less pedal too (dont you have a club foot?)
to bad he put it in a shit box. i think you can swap over ka/sr shifter, but dont hold me to that.
"...I'm a thief, I'm a liar, There's my church, I sing in the choir..."
He has the parts to fix it but just haven't gotten around to it.
I think thats gayer, because it actually takes a tad bit of thought to do that swap. Its not a 6-wire flyer like the S13 RB20
btw F3 plug FTL.
S14 is gayer because an s14 is a little better than an s13, but the killer is putting a 20 year old motor in a 8 year old car.
But a 500 dollar s13 with a 1000 motor is still queer.
It is because the bushing are fucked, I know how to drive a fucking 5spd.
The motor itself sounds good, but it'd be nice if it would to rev to something worth a god damn.
I really need jay to sign up on supraforums.com and tear ball bearing supra a new one when it comes to dsm/mitsu talk. that guy thinks all dsm are poop
Simple minds are hard to change.
"Well I have a Supra and you have crankwalk and a broken tranny."
"I have a 6 bolt crank and a built tranny."
"Just wait, race me on the highway. HA!"
lol he's pussied out on every track call out he's gotten over there. but yet he still says they are horrible drag cars. he gets every dsm thread locked and deleted. he use to own a dsm but i guess since he got a supra he thinks he's god.
but back to the rb20s. they suck.
Wow...what can I say? I just joined this forums because a buddy of mine recommended it to me. Just from reading this thread alone I feel like I wasted minutes of my life.
I would like to see some substantial information regarding the RB20 was a "boat anchor". Not just everyone's opinions. From everything I have ever read, you gain approx. 50-75 lbs over the KA. And that information is from ppl who have actually driven the car (before AND after the swap) onto a scale. Sooo you gain that much weight...wow. I hardly think that qualifies the RB20 as an anchor.
As far as for the cost of the motor...I have to say that paying 1K for my motorset really upset me...gosh what would I do with all that extra money that I saved. Perhaps drop it into the car and/or motor? And I would love to hear what "ancient" technology the RB20 is equipped with. And paying extra money for the other cylinders?! Yeah I had to fork out a whopping $60 for my 440cc Supra injectors (plus the $100 to have all of them cleaned and flowed).
This debate over RB vs. SR vs. CA vs. KA is extremely irrelevant and juvenile. Until someone brings meaningful information to this thread, it still remains a pissing contest. "My SR will crush your blah-biddy-blah S13 piece of crap...."
My RB20 was pushing over 250whp (Mustang dyno), with very little dropped into it ($700 turbo, $60 injectors, SAFC) at 14psi. So I would have to say that it was not a bad investment at all.
I am sure that many ppl will reply to this talking all kinds of trash. I might have even ticked some of you off, but I have respect for ALL Nissan motors. Yes some of them have more potential than others...but don't hate on one motor because you have a biased (and uninformed) opinion. I hope there is someone else on this thread that feels the way I do. If you respond to this, please make it a relevant discussion and don't come at me with ridiculous talk about my "POS" motor and such garbage.
50 to 75lbs over a KA is the key word here. I am talking about an SR20DET, not a KA. A KA is a truck engine, designed for torque, not HP. You made 250whp on a Mustang Dyno, which as a whole reads higher than any other dyno. What is your point? If you like the RB20, than fine, whatever, but if you are saying that this forum is a waste of minutes of your life, then leave. Just like you think none of us have provided substantial information and are just typing opinions, all you are doing is the same thing.
SR20: 2 litre, came in the car stock in Japan and is what the weight balance and suspension is set up for. 50/50 weight distribution.
RB20: 2 litre, 2 more cylinders, more weight biased toward the front of the car.
You wanna build something nose heavy to make power? THEN SPEND THE FUCKING MONEY AND PUT A BIGGER IRON BLOCK ENGINE IN IT, NOT ONE THAT IS THE SAME SIZE. Everybody wants a steak dinner for Taco Bell prices.
--RIP Leisa. Forever In Our Hearts--
--Val for President 1979-2007--
hahaha 50/50 with an SR my ass, prove it. Either way the S13 handles like shit anyways, 50/50 or not.
rb240det made a few good points, Id like to see how the peanut gallery responds
S13s have close to 50/50 distribution stock. And yes, they do handle like shit.hahaha 50/50 with an SR my ass, prove it. Either way the S13 handles like shit anyways, 50/50 or not.
rb240det made a few good points, Id like to see how the peanut gallery responds
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