Quote Originally Posted by Nick
I wasn't directing this towards anybody in particular, especially not u. U have done your research and know what u are talking about. But it seem to me like most people just hop on the "7thgen's are slow and shitty" bandwagon without knowing what they are talking about.

haha i feel ya and for your level head you get a plus one. its not that they are slow and shitty, its just up until recently swaps were out of the question so they seemed doomed forever with a d series, which means major work for major power. and if you decide to go the k series swap route. jump over to k20a.org and i promise you will get a full swap minus mounts for less than 1200 if you put in a k20a3. not the best but with bolt ons and a lil work, a hell of a better platform from the tuning point of view.