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    Exclamation I NEED AN ENGINE SWAP!!!!!

    I don't know what engine will fit my civic!!! I need help....it's an 87 civic sedan.....and it's carbed......I heard that they're discontinuing my carb. Please help!!!!








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    swap in a d17y8. thats a big upgrade for you.

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    what is the "d17y8". Is it an injected model?? This is the org. engine 263,000mi on it and it's an auto trans.......although I got the car for $400......I just want to know what "fits".....anymore suggestions?
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    d16y8 came in the SI chassis. it is a 1.7 fuel injected SOHC. shouldn't be too expensive to pick up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sullen
    d16y8 came in the SI chassis. it is a 1.7 fuel injected SOHC. shouldn't be too expensive to pick up...
    WRONG!! they came in the 96-00 ex models not the si they had the b16a2

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    dude.......what about the trans?

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    friend of mine told me to put a "zc" engine in it....from a late 80's integra...but what the hell is a zc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pt3boomer
    friend of mine told me to put a "zc" engine in it....from a late 80's integra...but what the hell is a zc?
    Lol, ZC came out more in the mid 80's than late. It's a dohc D-series engine. Block stamp code is d16a1. It has 130 hp whereas the b18 only has 140. I think the ZC is lighter, not by much but it's still lighter and you can use a lighter D-series tranny on it. I'd go with the ZC but whatever floats your boat.

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    how about u just get a new damn car cuz if you got a honda its gone need to be manual or you could just use ls automatic motor but why jus get manual and you will have more fun well until u come into traffic but ive seen a hatchback87 with a h22 forsale on ebay it was camoflauge but dude used hasport motor mounts he said it dropped rite in which i think was some bs if i cant drop it right in my ef

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDM onlyy
    Lol, ZC came out more in the mid 80's than late. It's a dohc D-series engine. Block stamp code is d16a1. It has 130 hp whereas the b18 only has 140. I think the ZC is lighter, not by much but it's still lighter and you can use a lighter D-series tranny on it. I'd go with the ZC but whatever floats your boat.
    dont forget about the sohc ZCs

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    if you can find it, do an ls motor swap. the LS integras came with a B18 motor. thats a DOHC 1.8 L fuel injected. lots of people wants that motor though. no clue what the ZC motor is....my best(cheapest)bet is on the d17y8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sullen
    no clue what the ZC motor is....
    basically a motor like the d-series comes in single and dual cam nonvtec, but its old skool tho, i got a friend who blew two of them


    I say you get a gallo12 or 24, its like a direct bolt in and i think the gallo 12 goes for like 300 bux with transmission and the gallo 24 goes for about $650 used and you can make like 300hp on them stock.

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    buy the entire motor set for any of these motors, engine trans, ecu, harness. don't buy the motor to put in with no tranny, how the hell would you drive it?

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    ecu, harness??????? what are they.....

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    sorry, im a nissan freak...not a honda. i thought the SI models were still d series...

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    I've done repair work.......cv axels, water pumps, brakes, stuff that I can do if I have a repair manual and tools to do it.........and maybe a beer.......but ecus and harnesses and stuff like that I have no Idea of/about.

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    ecu, computer. behind the passenger kick pannel. its the eectronic box, harness (wiring rope basically) looks like a big black string of wires and plugs.

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    just make sure you put back in an OBD1 motor. don't wanna go thru the hassle of converting the car to another OBD....

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    what does the ecu control?

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    everything

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    if you can find a B series engine, that'd be the best way to go... i mean, they're the DOHC models. alot more options as far as building goes, and alot more power.

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    Personally i prefer the b23,665zyx

    If you don't know what an ecu or harness is, get someone else to swap your shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRAMERIZKING
    If you don't know what an ecu or harness is, get someone else to swap your shit.

    i agree

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    yes. I'm having someone else do it, but I gotta get parts.....she also said I need mounts too. What the hell is obd1?

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    the garage on fort mac is free but I do all minor stuff there, but something major like this.......I had to get someone else.

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    Onboard Diagnostics 1st Generation. from 1996- is OBD2. OBD1 will basically be an easy swap. OBD2 will throw codes left and right. OBD1 is more of a mechanically controlled bit, OBD2 is generally more controlled by the ECU. just go OBD1. from say 1990-1995 motors....that should do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sullen
    Onboard Diagnostics 1st Generation. from 1996- is OBD2. OBD1 will basically be an easy swap. OBD2 will throw codes left and right. OBD1 is more of a mechanically controlled bit, OBD2 is generally more controlled by the ECU. just go OBD1. from say 1990-1995 motors....that should do.

    wrong again bro...92-95 civic motors are obd-1 he has obd-0...obd-1 is not an easy swap for someone that has no idea what they are doing. he should stick with obd-0 or be ready to pay for an obd-1 swap/conversion from a reputable shop

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    wrong again bro...92-95 civic motors are obd-1 he has obd-0...obd-1 is not an easy swap for someone that has no idea what they are doing. he should stick with obd-0 or be ready to pay for an obd-1 swap/conversion from a reputable shop
    sorry, i am a nissan dude. didn't know honda lagged behind for so long....my 1990 240 is OBD1. but nonetheless, agreed, pay a shop what they want for the swap. they'll know what to hook you up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    wrong again bro...92-95 civic motors are obd-1 he has obd-0...obd-1 is not an easy swap for someone that has no idea what they are doing. he should stick with obd-0 or be ready to pay for an obd-1 swap/conversion from a reputable shop
    i was jus about to say that car should be obd 0 which means he would have to convert the motor if he doesnt go with a zc i wonder do they have hondata for cars that old

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    dude...you ned to tell a shop what you are looking for (hp, reliability, mods) and payt hem what they ask of you. you dont need to tackle this alone. talk to a reputable shop and let them work some magic

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    www.honda-tech.com

    read and read and read and read... this is probably your bes bet for all your questions... g/l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hektik
    www.honda-tech.com

    read and read and read and read... this is probably your bes bet for all your questions... g/l

    ditto

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    Its was hard enough to find a shop.....Tom Hornsby of Acura Honda wouldn't touch the damn thing. "Dude, it's too old....88 and up only in here man" I think my car is a 4th gen right? 84-87. That's why I learned to do some shit myself.

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    im not real sure about that particular chassis but its gonna take some squeezing to get anything other than a stock motor in there. i had a 87 si a couple years ago and that thing had a tiny engine bay. get your use out fo the car and score a newer model!! or be prepared to pay

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    if you all can, break down obd-0 thru 4? please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pt3boomer
    if you all can, break down obd-0 thru 4? please.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hektik
    www.honda-tech.com

    read and read and read and read... this is probably your bes bet for all your questions... g/l

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    Quote Originally Posted by pt3boomer
    if you all can, break down obd-0 thru 4? please.

    wait, when did it get to OBD3?

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    this is the chassis on a good day


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    I don't know I haven't read that far yet.......

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    it goes by years...

    88-91= OBD0 (technically it is a version of OBD1, but its generally called OBD0)

    92-95=OBD1

    96-00=OBD2

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