I've seen all your posts. Just haven't seen any to really put any thought towards responding to!Originally Posted by nelson9995
So there! Later, QD.
I've seen all your posts. Just haven't seen any to really put any thought towards responding to!
So there! Later, QD.
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lol, I see QD I'm just messin with you.
Same here, my man. Later, QD.
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I'm actually very impressed with Lebron on and off the court through these finals. I do hate Miami as a team though, look up their flop highlights. Buncha fuckin queers. That is more normal in basketball these days though. But as I said I feel like Lebron grew up a lot through the playoffs, and you're out of your god damn mind if you think he isn't one of the best to play the game. Refs or no refs, he's unstoppable when he's on. His level of athleticism is seriously unreal. I do think OKC is the next dynasty though, and getting shit on this year was the best medicine for them to make it happen.
If Miami lost again this year, the hype would have been derailed and they probably would have traded one of the big three. Derrick Rose is injury prone, Melo's knicks suck, Durant plays for a small market team, Kobe is old........
Lebron is the biggest draw in the NBA and recently moved to a big market team. Him being successful is the best thing that could happen for NBA ratings and exposure.
With that said..... dont you find it somewhat odd that Miami shot nearly record breaking amounts of free throws in the finals?
seems funny that all the good fortune shined upon the absolute best team it could have happened to from the NBA's perspective.
No, I've NEVER seen a team attack the rim like the miami heat did in these finals. They played 100% to their strengths. They took them to the rim like no other team in NBA HISTORY, when OKC double teamed to stop the inside the paint scoring, they dished it out to WIDE open shooters who shoot 35%+ for their nba career's.
I'm sorry homie I saw a evenly ref'd series, OKC just settled for their jump shots, that they normally hit. They missed them and it took away the "explosive" offense everyone said they had. Like skip bayless says..... "you live by the jumper, you die by the jumper" .......
I know you know basketball, if you drive to the rim like lebron,wade,bosh can, you OBVIOUSLY are gonna get to the FT line WAYY more then okc who settles for running down the floor and whoever has the ball, they shoot it with no ball movement.
Mark cuban said it best...... They should've went into a zone like dallas did against miami in the previous finals. They GAVE miami everything they wanted.
Youre dead wrong, they just went through a 3 month lockout to make sure what Miami did CANT HAPPEN AGAIN. the best thing for the NBA was having Lebron (the rightful league MVP) vs Durant (the scoring champion). OKC has a ton of fans, and Lebron is extremely popular. And people want to see lebron fail/win so thats why ratings where so high.
Kobe is still the #1 sold jersey WORLD WIDE!
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You know you played right into my trap, Mike? Lolol. Later, QD.
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im not even paying attention to what you guys are arguing about honestly
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I think the officiating was terrible, but its been terrible all year long. I still think Miami won fair and square. Calls could have changed games 2/3 but theres no telling if they would have won (OKC).
Wade raped Rondo at the end of game 2 and there was no call.
LBJ earned his first chip, ill leave it at that, no asterisk recquired
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But you responded to the initial comment?
Asterisk is there, whether you like it or not. San Antonio has one, too. But, like I said before (which I'm sure you read), it only denotes that it was a strike shortened season. Later, QD.
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I hardly posted ANY stats about miami, i only posted stats about CP3. Because I know most people haven't seen him play because he has been on bad teams his entire career.
But when it comes to miami, its clear they earned their title, IMO. I dont think 16 more regular season games would've changed the outcome. They finally figured out that they needed to play to their strengths and quit giving opponents what they wanted. I still kinda think you brushed off the entire eastern conference like they had no worth opponents to beat okc or sa. whoever ended up coming out..... but thats neither here nor there....
And i'm sorry, im not sure how people say lebron is a bad guy. I don't see it. Look at how cocky and how much trash talking jordan did. Not saying he is jordan, just saying people think he is the best in the nba and people said jordan was the best in the nba. I think he is CONSIDERABLY less cocky and less arrogant then jordan EVER was.
I do think that Miami earned their title as well. They came out and played hard. Unlike last season, they played like they really wanted it. As far as 16 more games changing the outcome? No one knows. It may changed it entirely. Someone could have gotten hurt, someone could have fell into a huge slump; anything could have happened. You can't predict injuries. Yes I did brush off the Eastern Conference. I'll agree. But I did say that if anyone had a chance, it would be Miami. But I predicted the Western side and I still stick to it.
Well Lebron has pulled a couple of highlighted stunts that sets him in front of Jordan in the arrogance/cockiness "race." He seems to have toned it down a little bit, but Jordan never reached to the points that James did in cockiness. Of course, as everyone should know, Jordan could have the right to be cocky. He backed his up. And he is definitely one of the best to ever play. James is one of the best playing today, but right now, he is not the best to ever play. Later, QD.
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i think you're all guilty of a judging curve between Miami and Miami of last year.
Miami last year looked like a bunch of worthless pussies that had no heart and didnt deserve to be on the court.
This year they looked like a team that was ready to play and leave it all on the court. They "deserved" to win this year.
Still doesnt overshadow that the officiating was absolute garbage and there was unquestionably an advantage given to Miami. You may think Miami would have won regardless. You may think Miami was the better team.....
You may be right, but that doesnt change how bad the officiating was. I feel like people knew the officiating was helping Miami in games 2-3-4, then when Miami legitimately dominated in game 5 they said... "meh fuck it, they probably would have won anyways".
Lebron vs Jordan.....................
Lebron isnt fit to wash Jordan's cars. That is all.
The officiating was bad, period. Not for one team or the other. They missed calls ALL season. What about the calls on ginobli in game 6 of the western conference finals. That cost them the chance to go back to SA tied 3-3. But like I said, i felt they missed calls for BOTH teams in the finals. Like I said before, i agree the foul on lebron at the end of game 2 in okc should've been called. But I also believe he charged on battier 3 minutes before that and it would've put his ass on the bench for the remainder of the game anyway. He got off a clean release, he shouldve made it, simple as that. His shooting motion wasn't stopped, he got his with the body, so what, man the fuck up. Lebron gets hit with the body every possession, its the fouls that stop his layup motion/dunk motion that put him on the line. Either way, they lost.
and i agree with you about miami last year, compared to this one. fierce this year!
My point went clear over your head, like a tebow pass.
I agree with you here. I am one of those, as well.
A Tebow pass can't go over your head if it's under thrown.
My point went clear over your head, like a tebow pass.
Had to slide that in there. Later, QD.
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The officiating was bad, period. Not for one team or the other. They missed calls ALL season. What about the calls on ginobli in game 6 of the western conference finals. That cost them the chance to go back to SA tied 3-3. But like I said, i felt they missed calls for BOTH teams in the finals. Like I said before, i agree the foul on lebron at the end of game 2 in okc should've been called. But I also believe he charged on battier 3 minutes before that and it would've put his ass on the bench for the remainder of the game anyway. He got off a clean release, he shouldve made it, simple as that. His shooting motion wasn't stopped, he got his with the body, so what, man the fuck up. Lebron gets hit with the body every possession, its the fouls that stop his layup motion/dunk motion that put him on the line. Either way, they lost.
and i agree with you about miami last year, compared to this one. fierce this year!
My point went clear over your head, like a tebow pass.
None of your points go over anyone's head. You simply think way too highly of your own opinions. We have discussed this, remember?
My point just went over you head, based on your answer. That is clear. This is not the first time.
Hey, I know what I know. Chris Paul=Best Pg in the NBA...... Lebron=Best Player In the WORLD right now. You can argue all you want, I'm far from the only one who thinks this.
Tebow=Great Backup QB....... we agree there, right?
ESPN NBA James Harden expects to stay in OKC
Harden will take less money to stay in okc .
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You're easily the most annoying person this forum has to offer. Your opinions are not facts. Nothing you say or have said is anywhere close to going over anyone's head. You argue like a 9 year old school kid. The only thing you haven't done yet is take your toys and go home. You should seek a career in politics. When all else fails and you're intellectually incapable of producing a compelling counter argument, just insult the other party and proclaim you're right.
First Team All NBA=Fact
First Team All NBA Defense-Fact
Most Efficient PG in NBA=Fact
My opinion anywhere in that? ..... Didn't think so.
The reigning Sixth Man of the Year says he doesn't plan to be coming off anyone's bench but Oklahoma City's.
Harden, however, cites the unique togetherness of the team as a reason why he might take less money to stay in OKC.
Him or ibaka will most likely be gone. I assumed it would be ibaka, but apparently everyone on IA thought differently. But check the key words above, it told me where he WANTS to be, but no other teams can show him their $ offers yet, im sure his decision will be much more difficult then he thinks. OKC is a contender based a lot on his talents as well. Its not just westbrook and durant, if he goes to another western conference contender, it may change everything. Let's see what happens mr.kidd.....
As a GM yore keeping ibaka over harden. Harden doesn't want to start. He's vocal about that.
I have a feeling they will keep both. They'll get creative on salary.
Harden has no reason to go anywhere else.
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Harden doesn't want to start...... on oklahoma city
Millions of dollars and potentially playing with a unselfish PG is a great reason to leave IMO, lets just see what they can do for him.
I dont think he wants to be a PG for anyone else. He can sign a 2-3 year deal with okc, and leave later. He knows what's at stake.
He's 23, and already plays "starter" minutes.
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Some people and their "pick-n-choose argumenting" style, lolol. Later, QD.
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Clearly the point went right over your head. Happens a lot with simple minded people.
Its clear they all LOVE Westbrook. I have friends in the OKC organization and the talk is that the big 3 of OKC are inseperable. They are like brothers. Harden plays starter minutes already , and hes not interested in going anywhere else. THe only way he leaves is if OKC wants him to leave
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I agree tebow. So simple minded even the simple things pass straight through you. Laid out in front of you on a silver platter...... Sad, so sad.
Same goes for ibaka?
"typical"
The problem is going to come down to the CBA. OKC doesnt have the cap space to sign both at their expected MAX SALARY. And you know that their CURRENT team wasnt good enough to win 2 games against miami so they are in a tough position.
Do you double down and keep everyone and the team exactly the same, or do you let Harden go/trade him for other pieces?
You cant teach height, so I think they keep Ibaka is their first priority. Harden will have to decide money wise what he wants to do and i think OKC doesnt want to lose him so they will get creative in salary.
I think if it comes down to choice you keep Ibaka and let harden go. But i think they will find a way to keep both
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typical blacks huh..... they always point out the obvious...
i'll tell u what. fuck you. and fuck tebow.
on REALGM they are saying that Hardens exit interview he told OKC FO that he would take less money to be able to stay............
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What did Tebow ever do to you?
i agree, i also think that since Harden is already saying he will take less money to hold it together that he probably feels this is true too and that's why he's willing to be the one who compromises.
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jk man, lol
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