Ice-T vs. Soulja Boy?

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Originally Posted by DunksWhore

While I agree completely that Soulja boi sucks and Ice T is what most would consider a legend, hip hop will never be what it was in the 80's and 90's.

Hip hop is no longer an artform....IMO present day hip hip is more about selling records and artists marketing themselves in any way they can. Although Soulja boi will never be on the artistic level of that of artists of the past, he is a genius in his own right. I'm not defending him and yes I called him a genius...Why?
Because he produced his own shyt, marketed himself, and now he's reaping the benefits of what some of us deem to be garbage. He's not going to be around in 10 years and I'm sure he knows that so why not make the most of his present popularity? I don't respect his "music" BUT I do respect the fact that he has made a niche for himself and made the most of it. Ice T should understand that the game has changed and there's no turning back and like someone stated previously he shouldn't be beefing with a 17/18 year old kid. I don't see him calling out every other mufuker that puts out garbage ass music...

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exactly!! Its like people hate to see the young kid do some good with his life. If he was makin some gangsta **** it would be aproblem. But since he got kids doing harmless dances its a problem.

i lost respect for ice t. when he started doing that rock shit. soulja boy just never had it. soulja boy just sounds like a tard in his reply.

I want to see Ice-T call out Eminem or 50. ***** be dead in 2 days,lol

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Originally Posted by twinj

I understand what Ice-T is saying about soulja boi. Ice-T needs to sit his old ass down somewhere his time has came and pass.

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And yet he can still run circles around Soulja's biitch ass. Later, QD.

Business/money wise I can't hate on Soulja boy, because well hes successful, and we're posting on IA. Music wise, the sh1t I just took sounded better than he did. ICE-T keeps it real.

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Originally Posted by ironchef

ICE-T keeps it real.

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yah until keepin it real goes wrong

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Originally Posted by twinj

I am tired of hearing "Hip hop is dead"

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You're going to hear a lot more about it if someone doesn't step it up. It isn't dead. Yet. But it damn sure is dying with a quickness. Later, QD.

hip hop is dead to the close minded! And the stubborn old mules... Who would rather hate, than congratulate and moderate :)

If some of these rappers would get off there ass and put some of that hardcore promotion on for themselves instead of letting the company put up a few posters on the telephone and have a few commercials on BET, they might sell some records.

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Originally Posted by no mo hondas

i lost respect for ice t. when he started doing that rock shit. soulja boy just never had it. soulja boy just sounds like a tard in his reply.

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I saw Body Count live in 1993. One of the best shows ever. Immediately after he did an hour long rap show with Warren G. Your point about Ice T doing rock makes you lose respect for him shows that you never had any to begin with. No respect for Run DMC, LL or Public Enemy either I suppose.

This argument isn't getting anywhere and nobody will get their mind changed. I'm saying I understand why Ice did it. He had a big hand in making something and now there is a huge t shirt wearing, jibberish flappin teenager trying to make his money and not giving a **** about the artform. Like everyone else I suppose.

I hear Soulja Boi enough at every stoplight and gas station.

no music at all>soulja boy!!! he makes the most ignorant music i have ever heard, and i would rather sit in silence then listen to that garbage

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Originally Posted by JITB

hip hop is dead to the close minded! And the stubborn old mules... Who would rather hate, than congratulate and moderate :)

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You must not be referring to me as I said hi hop is dying. Not dead. It's obvious to people that grew up on the stuff. The "stubborn old mules" that's been around since Day 1 knows a bit more about the genre than the loose, "I'll take what I can get" younger generation who don't even know where hip hop came from. But it's all good. Later, QD.

hell if you're smashin' Coco i think you have the right to hate with a white mask and a burning cross in your left hand :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

You're going to hear a lot more about it if someone doesn't step it up. It isn't dead. Yet. But it damn sure is dying with a quickness. Later, QD.

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So why doesn't the artists crying hip hop is dead step up?


Oh an soulja boy sucks.

YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

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Originally Posted by JITB

hip hop is dead to the close minded! And the stubborn old mules... Who would rather hate, than congratulate and moderate :)

If some of these rappers would get off there ass and put some of that hardcore promotion on for themselves instead of letting the company put up a few posters on the telephone and have a few commercials on BET, they might sell some records.

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in complete agreement. I myself dont find intrest in the whole "thug", "gangbanger" or "from the ghetto" type rap.....but i do enjoy club beats. More and more i'm starting to enjoy "hiphip/rap" songs that i hear. If anything, hiphop isnt dying its just changing. Its becoming more popular, more mainstream......some ppl dont like that

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Originally Posted by MistaCee

So why doesn't the artists crying hip hop is dead step up?


Oh an soulja boy sucks.

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There's actually not a lot of artists saying this. Just a few. I've heard old school artists try to re-emerge and try to appeal to the younger generation of listeners. It fell on deaf ears. Including mine. Grandmaster Melle Mel tried a couple of years ago to release a new album. He had a couple of awesomely classic Flash tracks but the rest was trying to garner the attention of younger folks. It just didn't work. The club-style sound of songs has taken over and younger people don't know the roots of the genre. They don't know the struggles an artist back in the late 70s/early 80s had to go through to get any sort of respect. If they got any period outside their own block.

It's just a cycle that every generation of every music style goes through. For the most part, everyone's parents hated the music that the child listened to. It just trickles down from generation to generation. This is a cycle that will never be broken. You grow up on a certain style and that sjust stays with you and nothing else is good enough. Like to me, the 70s/80s music scene will never be topped. For the younger people, the music of today is the shiit.

Oh and Soulja Boi the "rapper" sucks. Soulja Boi the entertainer sucks to me, but is obviously not so "sucky" to a lot of other folks. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by 1439/2000

I hear Soulja Boi enough at every stoplight and gas station.

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and on every f*cking cellphone

i never understood how ringtone rappers are thought of as the greatest lyricists these days now..

I agree with you QD.

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Originally Posted by DeutscheBAG!

and on every f*cking cellphone

i never understood how ringtone rappers are thought of as the greatest lyricists these days now..

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Music just has to be catchy now a days.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

There's actually not a lot of artists saying this. Just a few. I've heard old school artists try to re-emerge and try to appeal to the younger generation of listeners. It fell on deaf ears. Including mine. Grandmaster Melle Mel tried a couple of years ago to release a new album. He had a couple of awesomely classic Flash tracks but the rest was trying to garner the attention of younger folks. It just didn't work. The club-style sound of songs has taken over and younger people don't know the roots of the genre. They don't know the struggles an artist back in the late 70s/early 80s had to go through to get any sort of respect. If they got any period outside their own block.

It's just a cycle that every generation of every music style goes through. For the most part, everyone's parents hated the music that the child listened to. It just trickles down from generation to generation. This is a cycle that will never be broken. You grow up on a certain style and that sjust stays with you and nothing else is good enough. Like to me, the 70s/80s music scene will never be topped. For the younger people, the music of today is the shiit.

Oh and Soulja Boi the "rapper" sucks. Soulja Boi the entertainer sucks to me, but is obviously not so "sucky" to a lot of other folks. Later, QD.

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what age do you consider young? :thinking:

actually that doesnt matter cuz there are quite a few younger cats (younger than I) that shock tha sh¡t outta me with their understanding of hip-hop and its roots.

I think the first mistake people make about soulja boy is compare him to lyricists. The kid says all the time hes not the best rapper and hes trying to get better. But he likes to make the world dance, and have fun. Most and pretty much all younger artists i hear pay homage to the ones before. How many times have you heard a new artist just come out and attacking the old school artists. It really doesnt happen. Its always the old guy with a album coming out, that wants to talk so much **** about the new group. Than you got the old guys that can see whats goin on and keep up with the change, and dont just sit back and point fingers. I mean think about who would have ever known ice T has a cd comin out if it wasnt for this stunt? Any sB youtube video gets a million hits plus everytime he presses that record button. I mean what is ICe T tryin to gain from this? Its just random attention outcry to me. I always listening to new people and take time to listen to what they have to say..before i judge. i always watch SB's interviews and stuff to see where his head is at. And the kid is nothin but humble to his beginnings, you can tell just by how much he gives back to his fans. And people act like Sb is the first person to do club music? Isnt that where rap originated from is clubs and house parties?