LIL WAYNE

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

I think Nas is the father of modern rap

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In a way, I can see your point. But, as I hate to say it, Jay Z really makes a better run at that "title."

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

and I don't mind Em but he is nowhere close to being a good rapper.

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I completely agree with you.

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

I don't care for Kool either.

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Well see there is a difference in you not liking someone and they not being a pioneer, of sorts, in the way rap evolved.

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

I'm done arguing about this because it will go nowhere and really doesn't matter.

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There was no argument. It won't go anywhere and it doesn't matter. Like you said, you can't argue the opinion of a rapper. But you can't (shouldn't) deny a rapper's role in the events. I can't stand Biggie Smalls or Jay Z or even 50 Cent. But at the same time, I can't deny that they made big impacts in rap. Jay and Smalls (posthumously) made much larger, longer impacts than 50, but they all did. Later, QD.

i think most of the rappers of today talk about stupid sh.it.. nas, lupe fiasco, kanye west, common, drake, currency, and more underground artist have the real main idea on rap. its not suppose to be about guns and ass. the ideas and lyrics should be based on life. personal experiences, and how living everyday suppose to be. we have artist who talks about sex and drugs all the time and it gets overrated having to listen to someone talk about the same sh.it on almost every track or every other track sounds the same

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Originally Posted by chinitoxamor

i think most of the rappers of today talk about stupid sh.it.. nas, lupe fiasco, kanye west, common, drake, currency, and more underground artist have the real main idea on rap. its not suppose to be about guns and ass. the ideas and lyrics should be based on life. personal experiences, and how living everyday suppose to be. we have artist who talks about sex and drugs all the time and it gets overrated having to listen to someone talk about the same sh.it on almost every track or every other track sounds the same

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I agree.

Reps

thanks you sirrrrr

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I There was no argument. It won't go anywhere and it doesn't matter. Like you said, you can't argue the opinion of a rapper. But you can't (shouldn't) deny a rapper's role in the events. I can't stand Biggie Smalls or Jay Z or even 50 Cent. But at the same time, I can't deny that they made big impacts in rap. Jay and Smalls (posthumously) made much larger, longer impacts than 50, but they all did. Later, QD.

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:yes:

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Originally Posted by chinitoxamor

i think most of the rappers of today talk about stupid sh.it.. nas, lupe fiasco, kanye west, common, drake, currency, and more underground artist have the real main idea on rap. its not suppose to be about guns and ass. the ideas and lyrics should be based on life. personal experiences, and how living everyday suppose to be. we have artist who talks about sex and drugs all the time and it gets overrated having to listen to someone talk about the same sh.it on almost every track or every other track sounds the same

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:yes:



on a side note. I think I found the worlds best rapper:cheers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHpw6...&feature=bz303

talk about BRAIN BLAST, DUDE FROZE UP and then start talking about BISEXUAL BRIDAL SHOWER puahahahahahahahaa

is he special??? :( poor kid at least he can spit better than that other kid hahaha :lmfao:

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Originally Posted by LS2ner

Negative sir. After Pimp C's death, Bun B has been trying to convince rappers to put down the codine. Lil'wayne said he isnt going to, that he is gonna turn it up for Pimp.

Kinda ****ing arrogant and disrespectful IMO.

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huh? i just read in this months vibe that Wayne hasnt quit syrup because he doesnt want to. he said one day that **** will get palyed out and he will stop. Also mentioned that withdrawal was bad the firs time he tried to quit. Its also mentioned how everyone knows he is going overboard with it but nobody will tell him to stop. Baby, Juelz, and mack maine said thats just wayne, hes gonna do him.

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Originally Posted by JITB

the prob withlil wayne fans, they think that carter was his first album...lol the old wayne was nice.

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wayne been hot since "clear tha set" off of guerilla warfare

The first verse I heard from wayne that made me realize he stepped his game up was off of Solider with Destiny's child:lmfao:

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Originally Posted by PSINXS

huh? i just read in this months vibe that Wayne hasnt quit syrup because he doesnt want to. he said one day that **** will get palyed out and he will stop. Also mentioned that withdrawal was bad the firs time he tried to quit. Its also mentioned how everyone knows he is going overboard with it but nobody will tell him to stop. Baby, Juelz, and mack maine said thats just wayne, hes gonna do him.

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Im just going by what ive been hearing.

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

He is the BEST rapper alive

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HOLY CRAP! Did Chuck D, Rakim, Ice Cube, Kool G. Rap, KRS-1, and many MANY others, die?!?!?!?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

HOLY CRAP! Did Chuck D, Rakim, Ice Cube, Kool G. Rap, KRS-1, and many MANY others, die?!?!?!?!?!?

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No but are they relevant in todays music mainstream or underground? no.
but im not saying i agree with the statement about who the greatest rapper alive is

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Originally Posted by soul

No but are they relevant in todays music mainstream or underground? no.
but im not saying i agree with the statement about who the greatest rapper alive is

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They are ALL relevant to today's music for what they did in their time, mainstream and underground! The fact that they aren't on radio & MTV in no way, shape or form makes them irrelevant.

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Originally Posted by chinitoxamor

i think most of the rappers of today talk about stupid sh.it.. nas, lupe fiasco, kanye west, common, drake, currency, and more underground artist have the real main idea on rap. its not suppose to be about guns and ass. the ideas and lyrics should be based on life. personal experiences, and how living everyday suppose to be. we have artist who talks about sex and drugs all the time and it gets overrated having to listen to someone talk about the same sh.it on almost every track or every other track sounds the same

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damn, thought I was the only one who went through that entire Currency mixtape :cheers:

wayne is not the best alive, not the best of all time. He is just the best of OUR time and its hard to disagree with that if you look at the current ACTIVE rappers. young dude will be a legend when or if the syrup kills him. who else makes 100 songs a year with each verse a freestyle? You cant buy a cd or mixtape with wayne not having a feature. Dude is hot and the entire rap community knows it, even other artists.

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Originally Posted by PSINXS

wayne is not the best alive, not the best of all time. He is just the best of OUR time and its hard to disagree with that if you look at the current ACTIVE rappers. young dude will be a legend when or if the syrup kills him. who else makes 100 songs a year with each verse a freestyle? You cant buy a cd or mixtape with wayne not having a feature. Dude is hot and the entire rap community knows it, even other artists.

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He's definitely "hot" right now and there's no disputing his popularity. I just don't think he's the best. M.C. Hammer was hot at one point but, that sure as hell didn't make him the best of his time.

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Originally Posted by PSINXS

wayne is not the best alive, not the best of all time. He is just the best of OUR time and its hard to disagree with that if you look at the current ACTIVE rappers. young dude will be a legend when or if the syrup kills him. who else makes 100 songs a year with each verse a freestyle? You cant buy a cd or mixtape with wayne not having a feature. Dude is hot and the entire rap community knows it, even other artists.

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Have you noticed that a bunch of his "freestyles" here lately are a bunch of jibberish? I could freestyle better than some of the **** he has put out lately. Especially that lollipop bull****.

Im not discrediting him in anyway, just saying that his older **** was 3x better. He thinks untouchable and hes letting it get to his head. He thinks that because he put out a 100 songs or whatever that everyone of them was heat and that hes so ahead of the game. But 100 mediocre songs isnt as good as 20 good songs.

i think waynes best song was

"where you at"

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Originally Posted by LS2ner

Have you noticed that a bunch of his "freestyles" here lately are a bunch of jibberish?

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I've noticed that a while ago. When his name would come up in conversations, I'd always say "his lyrics sound like a bad freestyle". Now he's getting props for freestyling his verses on songs? I don't get it. Just because the verse is a freestyle does NOT make it hot!

This is one of those subjects that everyones gonna disagree on. No one is ever gonna be crowned as tha best rapper alive for tha simple fact that its all an opinion. I do get tired of hearing all these other rappers talkin **** on wayne though, like gillie, hes mad cause wayne left his ass in tha past. As far as wayne only being hot right now, nah, hes been like that for awhile now, hes not just gonna fade away, he will be a big part of this rap game till he dies.

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Originally Posted by killerdx

As far as wayne only being hot right now, nah, hes been like that for awhile now, hes not just gonna fade away, he will be a big part of this rap game till he dies.

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What do you consider to be "a while"?

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Originally Posted by killerdx

As far as wayne only being hot right now, nah, hes been like that for awhile now, hes not just gonna fade away, he will be a big part of this rap game till he dies.

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You're kidding right? He's NOT been hot for that long. He's only been put on tracks recently for the last couple of years. He's been around for a while, but not near where he's at now or just recently. When he was at CM, the group as a whole, from around 1998-2001, did major things (along with No Limit). But solo has only seen him hot for a couple of years.

"He's not gonna fade away?" Seriously? Yes he is. Everyone fades away. Especially someone like him. He's a fad right now that will change either this year or next. Quote those words too, homie. Later, QD.

He is hotter now than he has been, no question bout that.But him fading away is gonna be up to who likes him. I mean eventually yea, i mean he wont be 50 talkin bout codine and how high he is( I hope)But in my opinion in the last 4 years to now i think he is the best of right now. But just because i think that doesnt mean any of yall have to agree.

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Originally Posted by killerdx

But him fading away is gonna be up to who likes him.

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Trust my word (that's why I said you can quote me), I'm not just some dude that just started listening to rap when he thought Lil Jon was cool. I've been listening to rap since before you were born. Ten years before, lolol. So I know I have a little knowledge in what transpires in the game. Popularity is the only thing that keeps a rapper hot. But rap (what's left of it) is a rapidly changing genre right now. Styles come and go with a quickness. I'm telling you that within two years, I'm surely sooner, Wayne will be a has been.

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Originally Posted by killerdx

. But just because i think that doesnt mean any of yall have to agree.

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Definitely. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by killerdx

He is hotter now than he has been, no question bout that.But him fading away is gonna be up to who likes him. I mean eventually yea, i mean he wont be 50 talkin bout codine and how high he is( I hope)But in my opinion in the last 4 years to now i think he is the best of right now. But just because i think that doesnt mean any of yall have to agree.

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Your right, he is hotter than he has been, and hes alot worse than what he was. What does that say about the Rap market right now? Basically that the majority of the people listening to wayne are retarded. If anyone will seriously say they think "lollipop" is better than any track on the Carter 1 or any track from Lights Out then they need to seek mental help.

Wayne will come to pass, he will leave his imprint on this industry and 20 years from now the younger generation wont know who he is. Just like some of the younger people on here not knowing who Kool G Rap and Luke are.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Trust my word (that's why I said you can quote me), I'm not just some dude that just started listening to rap when he thought Lil Jon was cool. I've been listening to rap since before you were born. Ten years before, lolol. So I know I have a little knowledge in what transpires in the game. Popularity is the only thing that keeps a rapper hot. But rap (what's left of it) is a rapidly changing genre right now. Styles come and go with a quickness. I'm telling you that within two years, I'm surely sooner, Wayne will be a has been.



Definitely. Later, QD.

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haha, your still not funny. Can u not talk about a topic with out tryin to sound like a ****ing hard ass. I didnt come on here and start sayin listen to what im sayin because im ****in cool and your just a old ****ing fart lol. NO i didnt so back to tha topic.... Of course hes not gonna stay in tha spot light but i think he will still be there, he will probably just take tha back seat and produce or something.

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Originally Posted by LS2ner

Your right, he is hotter than he has been, and hes alot worse than what he was. What does that say about the Rap market right now? Basically that the majority of the people listening to wayne are retarded. If anyone will seriously say they think "lollipop" is better than any track on the Carter 1 or any track from Lights Out then they need to seek mental help.

Wayne will come to pass, he will leave his imprint on this industry and 20 years from now the younger generation wont know who he is. Just like some of the younger people on here not knowing who Kool G Rap and Luke are.

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Yea i like his original stuff better. But i think tha whole point of "lollipop" is just to have a song that will be hot. And he did that, then he has his underground mixtapes and all that. Hes pretty smart, to be "****ed" up all tha time.

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Originally Posted by killerdx

haha, your still not funny. Can u not talk about a topic with out tryin to sound like a ****ing hard ass.

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What the fucc are you talking about? Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

What the fucc are you talking about? Later, QD.

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haha...u ever sayed sumthin before u even thought about it and afterwerds felt like a ****n retard...well i do....My apologies for that, i read it wrong :thinking: Guess i need to stop stayin up all night.

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Originally Posted by killerdx

haha...u ever sayed sumthin before u even thought about it and afterwerds felt like a ****n retard...well i do....My apologies for that, i read it wrong :thinking: Guess i need to stop stayin up all night.

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Cool, then, lolol. Yeah, I wasn't trying to be hard or antything. If I came off that way, then my apologies as well. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by chinitoxamor

he gotta be fu.ckd uppppp because this ni.gguhhh is talkin some crazy sh.it

http://youtube.com/watch?v=99UgqvN33RM

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ever notice how he sounds different on each track?


cause hes on a different drug on each track, possibly even combination/amount of them.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

WAYNE 4 PRESIDENT

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I knew you would come around:D


But seriously, Wayne is the next Pac:taun:


~just stirring the pot~

next pac?? you've got to be kidding me. keep stirring the the pot or stop passing the pot around period.

so i guess next your going to say fat joe is the next B.I.G?? yahh trick yahh??

Na b!tch nah...!!!!!!! :2up:

wayne can rap ill give you that i even like his style. but compare to 2pac? nahhh yo. you know rumor has it that a lot of ppl give wayne their lyrics to rap for them? in other words a lot of the stuff you hear may not even be his words..

Id really rather say M&M lyrically..and even heart wise is a lot better.

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Originally Posted by lilmanx01

Id really rather say M&M lyrically..and even heart wise is a lot better.

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Lolol. Later, QD.

haha i didnt even know what he was really talking bout
o well not that big a deal 2 me

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Originally Posted by lilmanx01

you know rumor has it that a lot of ppl give wayne their lyrics to rap for them? in other words a lot of the stuff you hear may not even be his words..

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LOL... who told you that? The Tooth fairy? LOL BRB Santa Clause is calling.. GTFO

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Originally Posted by lilmanx01

Id really rather say M&M lyrically..and even heart wise is a lot better.

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I have no comment. This is like saying Fat Joe is BETTER than BIG:lmfao:

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

LOL... who told you that? The Tooth fairy? LOL BRB Santa Clause is calling.. GTFO

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This is actually true. Most of his cameos, has him rhyming other's lyrics. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

This is actually true. Most of his cameos, has him rhyming other's lyrics. Later, QD.

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He does do that a lot. But mostly in his mixes when he has their beats. But I have never heard of him getting handed lyrics that are not in another song that someone else wrote and him taking credit for it. He has Freestyles out that are like 10 min. long.

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

But I have never heard of him getting handed lyrics that are not in another song that someone else wrote and him taking credit for it.

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Damn dude. That happens everyday in rap. To everyone.

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Originally Posted by SicStang03

He has Freestyles out that are like 10 min. long.

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Most everyone in the rap industry has this as well. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Damn dude. That happens everyday in rap. To everyone.



Most everyone in the rap industry has this as well. Later, QD.

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True, oh well. I like Wayne and I will continue to listen to his ****ed up ass whether he is Flyin with the fishes or maybe in the ocean swimmin with the pigeons:D