young jeezy?

LOL. You think b/c artists collab they are "tight?" LOL. It's BIZNESS!!! They do not hang out on weekends. R. Kelly and JZ are BUSINESSMEN - he got a lil buzz, and they capitalized on it. It's no diff than every1 getting AKON to sing hooks on their tracks. Guess what happens when that "buzz" goes away... ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. We'll see who Jeezy is working w/ in about a year or 2... LOL. What PREMIER atl artist has collabed w/ Jeezy? Oukast? No - they ignore him... and for good reason - he ain't sayin shit... LOL.

haha did you say Outkast?!?! Where are they at now?? Out making lameass movies.

:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

STFU about outkast

sorry liz can't be with you on this cause outkast is the shit...ppl might think their movies are lame but i like em'.

Damn, and I always thought he was str8 from ATL.

Well, Jeezy reps ATL cuz it's like a central rap distribution center. For ex, Newyork City, Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, Miami, etc.....ya ming?????

He is motivating people to get money.

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haha did you say Outkast?!?! Where are they at now?? Out making lameass movies.

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He is motivating people to get money. I respect Outkast but be real they are nothing like what they use to be 10-15 years ago. Yes they movies do suck,ie idlewild. ATL (big boi) was straight. Four Brothers(pretty good).

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STFU about outkast

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It is what it is bruh don't get mad. Truth Hurts :lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao:

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I respect Outkast but be real they are nothing like what they use to be 10-15 years ago.

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Exactly. Outkast used to be good. Now theyaren't. They stopped being "the shit" about 2-3 albums ago. Later, QD.

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Damn, and I always thought he was str8 from ATL.

Well, Jeezy reps ATL cuz it's like a central rap distribution center. For ex, Newyork City, Detroit, Houston, New Orleans, Miami, etc.....ya ming?????

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Hmmm. Out of that list, only Miami and maybe Detroit should be there. I don't even know of anyone who claims New York City. Everyone claims their particular borough(Queens, Brooklyn, Harlem). Later, QD.

LOL @ the people that think Outkast has fallen off. This proves that people just say retarded shit on the web w/out really knowing what the hell is going on. Speakerboxx was their best commercial success ever.

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LOL @ the people that think Outkast has fallen off. This proves that people just say retarded shit on the web w/out really knowing what the hell is going on.

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Wow. Yea, because everyone knows I don't know shit about rap or hip hop.

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Speakerboxx was their best commercial success ever.

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Later, QD.

I have to say!, I still HIGHLY dig outkast! Andre killed international players anthem! On the other hand, they are no longer "the shit", yet, they're the only ones I feel like mentioning when it comes to the best out of the south and specifically ATL as of the mid 90's-present.

"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

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"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

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See? This is what rap has been reduced too, lolol. Those lines are just trash. Later, QD.

Oh I get it. Now we are gonna get into the "commercial" versus "hood' thing since I mentioned commercial. LOL. People are funny - who the FUCK wants to sing "ghetto-carols" to ignorant ass people their entire career?? NOTHING wrong w/ the hood - nothing wrong w/ reppin where you are from... but at the same time, there is NOTHING wrong w/ leaving that muthafucka either! LOL. That's the goddamned problem w/ urban youth too - I remember growing up in a certain ATL town and running in the street when "Frankie-Pain" would drive by in his Suzuki Sidekick w/ rims and friends would say "ooooh, there go Frankie-Pain, he's the biggest drug dealer out here!" Local idiotic ass wanna be ghetto celeb. LOL. As I got into mid/high school of course the cars got bigger and more flashy - and my 1st year in the Air Force he got taken down by the feds... one of the biggest drug busts in the metro. FOR WHAT? WHAT'S THE GODDAMNED point? I mean shit - it's obvious that he was smart - why not be smarter, stack some cash and get the fuck out? Same as Jeezy goin' to jail repeatedly for dumb ass stupid ass shit that 15 year olds are going to jail for. Honestly, that's an insult to every other struggling artist who actually HAS A CLUE but never got the break that he got. Fuck Jeezy.

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See? This is what rap has been reduced too, lolol. Those lines are just trash. Later, QD.

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I think the entertainment section should be split up for all the old farts like you and julio and all the young cats should get there own shit.

Oh yeah those saying jeezy ain't "gangsta" he's actually runs with crips and is down with BMF

Truthfully when i first heard jeezy i didn't like him. But then i listen to the trap or die mixtape and he's on another level there...

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"I'm here now your old news
got a couple porsche trucks, couple old schools
I'll line your ass up and push your tape backwards
because i'm a real nigga and i don't like rappers
and that ain't this and this ain't that
and bitch i'm strapped
run with real niggas that will cut you throat
and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

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Say it isn't so. LMAO!!:no:

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Oh I get it. Now we are gonna get into the "commercial" versus "hood' thing since I mentioned commercial. LOL. People are funny - who the FUCK wants to sing "ghetto-carols" to ignorant ass people their entire career?? NOTHING wrong w/ the hood - nothing wrong w/ reppin where you are from... but at the same time, there is NOTHING wrong w/ leaving that muthafucka either!

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You right in there's nothing wrong with leaving the hood. But when you leave the hood, you have to comply with the people helping you leave the hood. That means selling out what you really want to say and how you say it by saying what the record companies want you to say and how they want you to say it. I'm not saying everyone is this way(so don't twist that). And there are a lot of folks that don't want to go commercial out there. More that don't than do. I never said Outkast sucked because of their commercial status. But they aren't the same down home Outkast that got them into a position to go commercial. Later, QD.

i guess you have to listen to the song or the lyrics won't make sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGcZCvwh7SY

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I think the entertainment section should be split up for all the old farts like you and julio and all the young cats should get there own shit.

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You're right. But, unfortunately, there isn't enough people on here who appreciate good rap to warrant an old school/good rap section.

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Oh yeah those saying jeezy ain't "gangsta" he's actually runs with crips and is down with BMF

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I never said that.

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Truthfully when i first heard jeezy i didn't like him. But then i listen to the trap or die mixtape and he's on another level there...

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Another level is right. Lolol. Later, QD.

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i guess you have to listen to the song or the lyrics won't make sense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGcZCvwh7SY

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The lyrics don't make sense anyway? What kind of line is:

"and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

That compares with "Stop. Check it out and listen" as the worst all time line in rap history, lolol. Later, QD.

PhatBoy - come on man... that whole verse is predictable man. Niggas I was in high school w/ freestyling in between classes had more pipes than that. That's textbook shit man - for real. Textbook delivery - predicatable lines... you could finish that verse in your head the 1st time you hear it.

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1 thing to be a local celeb/hero - and I respect ANY artist (no matter how garbage) who fakes it long/hard enuff to get their CD on the shelves at Wal-mart. Doesn't mean that he's good, but when you are REALLY good - u have a global appeal in my eyes - not just local.

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not all true with most artist. and also it hasnt been too long to where hes been out in public like this. it T.I. a long ass time to get some play from the media. I remember (and i have the cd) when he was tryin to push his shit in the streets with his voice over other artist music. giving away free cd's

i cant begin to tell you how long ago that was. it takes a minute.

i think gangsta and a pusha is 2 different things

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The lyrics don't make sense anyway? What kind of line is:

"and they don't drink pepsi they just sell coke"

That compares with "Stop. Check it out and listen" as the worst all time line in rap history, lolol. Later, QD.

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It was in reference to cocaine not coca cola. LOLOL

and being from atlanta you have to understand it's a subliminal

i dont like him like that. and his voice gets on my nerves but you have to give the man props from his music and his stand point. hes not a terrible artist but he aint no biggie either.

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PhatBoy - come on man... that whole verse is predictable man. Niggas I was in high school w/ freestyling in between classes had more pipes than that. That's textbook shit man - for real. Textbook delivery - predicatable lines... you could finish that verse in your head the 1st time you hear it.

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Thats why he isn't a rapper he's a "motivational speaker"

he speaks to people that can relate to his music, if you can't relate to it you won't understand it.

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It was in reference to cocaine not coca cola. LOLOL

and being from atlanta you have to understand it's a subliminal

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haha QD he is right. lol that one went over your head

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It was in reference to cocaine not coca cola. LOLOL

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I know that. But that was elementary school shit. It wasn't something that made me think..Goddamn that was some dope words. It went from letting people know that they don't drink soft drinks, they sell drugs.

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and being from atlanta you have to understand it's a subliminal

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I'm not from Atlanta. Lolol. And again, I get the subliminal part. Later, QD.

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Thats why he isn't a rapper he's a "motivational speaker"

he speaks to people that can relate to his music, if you can't relate to it you won't understand it.

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agreed just like every artist in the world ...unless you sing. THEN maybe you can complain.

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haha QD he is right. lol that one went over your head

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No it didn't. Goddamn, you guys must not remember that I'm not an idiot. I do have common sense. Later, QD.

You know what QD - what it boils down to is that times are changing. What these kids see as "talent" these days is diff than what we think. People WANNA hear "Laffy Taffy" and dumb shit anymore. LL couldn't buy a grammy nomination until he put J-Lo on a track---- J LO!!!!! LOL - this shit is just going downhill, and I swear I want no part in it. And real talk, I am a better than mediocre musician in my own right. Kids just wanna hear ghetto carols these days, and that shit sells. Fuck it. :)

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Thats why he isn't a rapper he's a "motivational speaker"

he speaks to people that can relate to his music, if you can't relate to it you won't understand it.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

I graduated from elementary school, too. Later, QD.

PhatBoy - no sir. That verse is garbage. I bet even Jeezy will tell you that. LOL. Has nothing to do w/ "understanding" it - who couldn't? I'ts middle school shit!

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!

I graduated from elementary school, too. Later, QD.

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I know that. But that was elementary school shit. It wasn't something that made me think..Goddamn that was some dope words. It went from letting people know that they don't drink soft drinks, they sell drugs.



I'm not from Atlanta. Lolol. And again, I get the subliminal part. Later, QD.

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it dont matter QD. i HATE E40. He sounds like shit to me and he cant rap for nothing in this world! i dont understand shit he says and he is always making up stupid ass words that pple think is cool. WHO GIVES FUCK? say something meaningful to me as well even tho hes all they way in cali.

***its not gonna happen. its a required taste and on top of that i have to be where hes from to understand what hes talkin about. or i have to like how he sounds then try to understand his lingo. everyone is different thats what makes them unique

E-40 is proven. That recipe works. He can't even be compared in this debate IMO.

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it dont matter QD. i HATE E40. He sounds like shit to me and he cant rap for nothing in this world! i dont understand shit he says and he is always making up stupid ass words that pple think is cool. WHO GIVES FUCK? say something meaningful to me as well even tho hes all they way in cali.

***its not gonna happen. its a required taste and on top of that i have to be where hes from to understand what hes talkin about. or i have to like how he sounds then try to understand his lingo. everyone is different thats what makes them unique

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You have zero room to talk down to me like you're teaching me something. You're insulting my intelligence by posting to me like I can't understand what is going on or how a rap verse is laid out. It doesn't take "where you're from" to understand a goddamn rap verse. It takes common sense and an understanding of subliminal messaging to get an inside look at a line. And you can try and turn this around and think you're going to hurt my feelings by bringing E-40 into this, but it won't work. I don't get my feelings all mashed up when someone talks about an entertainer from where I'm from. Later, QD.

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E-40 is proven. That recipe works. He can't even be compared in this debate IMO.

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BULLFUKIN SHIT! he proven. he sounds like shit. id say a waste of good artist if you ask me. fuck all that shit he does. i dont care what anyone thinks hes worthless no one understands his ass but pple from cali and they even have a hard time understanding his lingo and pple who like how his music sounds.

i hate both his voice and his music. its terrible. i turn the station every chance i get. yea i may not like him but others do. he is no better tha Jezzy to me. i dont like jeezy like that either. so i know how i feel about it. but that dont mean its written in stone. other pple like him cause they can relate and/or like his music.


juelz santana i dont like his lyrics but i like his music. so i know his songs. simple as that. no matter how good an artist is someone will hate or like what they do.

uh oh

~leaves thread~

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You have zero room to talk down to me like you're teaching me something. You're insulting my intelligence by posting to me like I can't understand what is going on or how a rap verse is laid out. It doesn't take "where you're from" to understand a goddamn rap verse. It takes common sense and an understanding of subliminal messaging to get an inside look at a line. And you can try and turn this around and think you're going to hurt my feelings by bringing E-40 into this, but it won't work. I don't get my feelings all mashed up when someone talks about an entertainer from where I'm from. Later, QD.

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Q-Deeeee????? what are you talking about. im not like everyone else on here trying to insult you so you can put that defensive card down. i was just sayin that you may not like him but others do. he aint the best in your book overall but to some others he is. lol stop gettin defensive. why would "I" insult your intelligence. im not that kinda girl ;) (NOTE that wasnt being sarcastic either) im not that kind of person