VICK TO BAY AREA!!!!!!!

**Hulud** · 01-23-2007, 01:14 PM

this would be the best thing the falcons can do

vick will NEVER win a super bowl, mark my words

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

And we did have the nfc championship came we could've won if we didn't have to play in the philly cold....Did you know that the away team is 0-10 in Nfc championship play when they have to play in the opposing teams backyard

lol, it's funny how u present that fact, like from here out to eternity the visiting team HAS to lose cuz it's happened 10 times already

**sleepys4** · 01-23-2007, 01:19 PM

i hope atlanta gets calvin johnson, my high school buddie.

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

I mean the #1 draft pick would probably be the only thing good coming out of the trade but then again we would just be bringing another rookie onto our team and he would have alot to learn with his first year coming into the NFL

calvin johnson > any receiver in the nfl, period
and he'll learn everything he needs in training camp

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

this would be the best thing the falcons can do

vick will NEVER win a super bowl, mark my words

true story, this is a smart man

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

calvin johnson > any receiver in the nfl, period
and he'll learn everything he needs in training camp

With that statement said i already know you don't know what your talking about.

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

lol, it's funny how u present that fact, like from here out to eternity the visiting team HAS to lose cuz it's happened 10 times already

well in a championship caliber game your going to tell me that homefield isn't a big advantage? I'm not saying it will decide the game but the home team always has the advantage to win

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

this would be the best thing the falcons can do

vick will NEVER win a super bowl, mark my words

elaborate this assumption please because vick already has had a chance to go to a superbowl

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:32 PM

DAMNIT WHERES KELLY WHEN I NEED HER

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:33 PM

AND TEEJAY

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

well in a championship caliber game your going to tell me that homefield isn't a big advantage? I'm not saying it will decide the game but the home team always has the advantage to win

i am telling u homefield is a HUGE advantage in any game, and u know damn well the way u presented ur first statement, u made it sound like the falcons HAD to lose to philly bc it was predestined or something (by the 0-10 record previous to them playing their game).

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

With that statement said i already know you don't know what your talking about.

lolol, it's ok i'll let it slide, i'm sure there were plenty of nonbelievers and doubters when LT came into the league as well

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

elaborate this assumption please because vick already has had a chance to go to a superbowl

what's there to elaborate? hulud obviously doesn't think vick is good enough to ever win a superbowl

**Brett** · 01-23-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by TheTurtle

AND our recievers suck ass too, no doubt, I want vick to do well, but quit acting so damn stupid, like flipping off the fans, and water bottle safes with who knows what inside the airport...

The flipping the fans off I can understand, If you were bashed and ridiculed for every mistake the team makes EVERY day of the year you would snap eventually to, he is only human.

**Kelly** · 01-23-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

Falcons insist they won't cut or trade Vick

By STEVE WYCHE
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 01/23/07

Falcons quarterback Michael Vick will be back with the team for the 2007 with the intent of him being the starter, according for a spokeswoman for team owner Arthur Blank.

"There are no plans to cut him or trade him." Kim Shreckengost, executive vice president of operations for Arthur M. Blank Group, said "Michael is our quarterback and the leader or our team. We have a new head coach [Bobby Petrino] who is anxious to start working with him. Everyone has high expectations of him going into next season.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...vicktrade.html

END THREAD/

Woo Hoo!!!

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

HERE YOU GO ATLANTA FALCONS ANALYST WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT MIKE VICK.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4aUWrLAX3U

GREAT FIND MARK, BASICALLY SUMS UP WHAT IVE BEEN TRYNA TELL THESE IDIOTS ALL FRIGGIN YEAR, BUT NOBODY WILL LISTEN MAN

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:39 PM

I GIVE UP MAN, GIVE UP

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

I GIVE UP MAN, GIVE UP

MIGHT AS WELL LOL, ITS NOT JUST THE IA EXPERTS THAT SEE IT THIS WAY. EVER GO TO THE FALCON MESSAGE BOARDS?? GREAT SUPPORTIVE FANS THERE

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:42 PM

i swear if there was some way to dump matt schaub and a few others for that draft pick, calvin johnson + vick would equal record numbers

**Hulud** · 01-23-2007, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

elaborate this assumption please because vick already has had a chance to go to a superbowl

key words

the year he did actually make it to the NHC Champ. he was passing a lot more and less running, better decisions, people didnt know how to contain him. Now the league has caught up to him and they have exposed him as someone who does not make the best decisions as a QB.

plus i said mark my words, youll see in 10 years when hes outta the league and no SB win.

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

key words

the year he did actually make it to the NHC Champ. he was passing a lot more and less running, better decisions, people didnt know how to contain him. Now the league has caught up to him and they have exposed him as someone who does not make the best decisions as a QB.

plus i said mark my words, youll see in 10 years when hes outta the league and no SB win.

would that make him a bad qb?? dan marino never won a sb, does that make him a bad qb?? i agree he may never win a super bowl, especially not in atlanta because there is no support, from the fans or talent wise

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

would that make him a bad qb?? dan marino never won a sb, does that make him a bad qb?? i agree he may never win a super bowl, especially not in atlanta because there is no support, from the fans or talent wise

yep, i think marino sucks, not to mention he only scored a 14 on the wonderlic

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

yep, i think marino sucks, not to mention he only scored a 14 on the wonderlic

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

i swear if there was some way to dump matt schaub and a few others for that draft pick, calvin johnson + vick would equal record numbers

correction, calvin johnson + any quarterback whose last name =/= BALL --->>>great success and record numbers

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

correction, calvin johnson + any quarterback whose last name =/= BALL --->>>great success and record numbers

even kerry collins??

**Hulud** · 01-23-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

would that make him a bad qb?? dan marino never won a sb, does that make him a bad qb?? i agree he may never win a super bowl, especially not in atlanta because there is no support, from the fans or talent wise

reading comprehension isnt your strong point is it?

he asked why i said vick would never win a superbowl, so i told him

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

reading comprehension isnt your strong point is it?

he asked why i said vick would never win a superbowl, so i told him

thats not the reason, did you watch the youtube thing mark posted?? pretty much the whole situation in a nutshell, presented in video format

**Hulud** · 01-23-2007, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

thats not the reason, did you watch the youtube thing mark posted?? pretty much the whole situation in a nutshell, presented in video format

dude, what dont you understand?

all i said was vick will never win a SB, and i gave my reasons

it doesnt matter what team he's on

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

dude, what dont you understand?

all i said was vick will never win a SB, and i gave my reasons

it doesnt matter what team he's on

and you are entitled to your reasons!! this is a debate right?? so im entitled to mine. if vick doesnt win a super bowl, it will not be because he sucks, it will be because of the people around him.

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

even kerry collins??

yep, if u remember, kerry collins owned when he was w/the panthers and took them to their first playoff ever

oh and he prolly also scored higher than a 14 as well on the wonderlic

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:58 PM

marino may have been the best qb ever, but he just didnt have the people around him to get it done. its not a one man game

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

if vick doesnt win a super bowl, it will not be because he sucks, it will be because of the people around him.

way to make an excuse for him for the rest of his career

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

yep, if u remember, kerry collins owned when he was w/the panthers and took them to their first playoff ever

oh and he prolly also scored higher than a 14 as well on the wonderlic

LOL collins was NOT the reason the panthers went to the playoffs

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

dude, what dont you understand?

all i said was vick will never win a SB, and i gave my reasons

it doesnt matter what team he's on

Your assumption is so broad. Unless you can tell the future i would never make an assumption like that on any team much less the falcons.

How could you say the most athletic Qb in the league has no chance to win a superbowl in a decade?? that's just absurd. You can't say that about any team at all. You will never know who makes it to the superbowl it's so unpredictable you can't ever say that one player won't win one.

**Hulud** · 01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

and you are entitled to your reasons!! this is a debate right?? so im entitled to mine. if vick doesnt win a super bowl, it will not be because he sucks, it will be because of the people around him.

yes you are too, but when you step into a discussion and read things wrong then it just makes you look dumb

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by PhAtBoYMr2

Your assumption is so broad. Unless you can tell the future i would never make an assumption like that on any team much less the falcons.

How could you say the most athletic Qb in the league has no chance to win a superbowl in a decade?? that's just absurd. You can't say that about any team at all. You will never know who makes it to the superbowl it's so unpredictable you can't ever say that one player won't win one.

same way u could say that the visiting team in an nfc championship game won't win it

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 02:00 PM

alls i know is rex grossman is about to win a super bowl, and he had a few games with a ZERO qb rating this season. just goes to show its not all about the qb

**ShooterMcGavin** · 01-23-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by TeeJay

LOL collins was NOT the reason the panthers went to the playoffs

oooh good edit, i'll be nice and leave it alone

**TeeJay** · 01-23-2007, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Hulud

yes you are too, but when you step into a discussion and read things wrong then it just makes you look dumb

im not reading anything wrong man, i am debating. sorry i dont agree

**PhAtBoYMr2** · 01-23-2007, 02:02 PM

and about the calvin johnson thing, Give the man atleast one year in the NFL to make an assumption he will be breaking records and leading the stats. Sure he had a good college career but he wasn't a break out college player or anything like that.

NFL db''s > College DB'S

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