hey guys im wanting to do an autocross event.. never done one but its always something ive wanted to do. any local sugguestions i can go to.. any event in the near future i can sign up for?? thanks reps for info
local autocross meets?
hey guys im wanting to do an autocross event.. never done one but its always something ive wanted to do. any local sugguestions i can go to.. any event in the near future i can sign up for?? thanks reps for info
please do some research. First off dont ever put meets.
Go to the competition section and look at SCCA/NASA blah blah events. its listed with a website
mkay. sorry if i offended you by calling it a meet...
No need for apologies. There is no offense to calling it a meet.Originally Posted by stevo_EF91
There's nothing wrong with starting off small. It's actually not bad to a do a year or so of auto-x to get your feet wet and to get a decent feel for your car in a shortened run. That was my initial plan before it all fell apart. I did the Solo II thing for two years and had planned on taking the car to the actual track to do it's thing there, but as this was my DD and my income was very low, it was a just a "dream."
But if this guy wants to get into something, whether it be auto-x or roadracing, then it should be a welcoming party here instead of a "forget this, do that" type of ordeal. Later, QD.
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wow thanks man. never seen you be nice to someone before lol
Haha. I just call it as I see it. Later, QD.
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I agree with QD here, and I didn't realize that my post may have made it sound like I was bashing autocross.
For clarity, I started my "journey" into amateur motorsports by autocrossing. It is an excellent low risk way to begin something that makes a herion addiction look like a vague craving for something salty. Autocross is very low risk; I've seldom heard of anyone balling up a car at an autocross. Hell, I've been to more Atlanta Region SCCA autocrosses since moving to SC than I went to when I lived in Lawrenceville.
For me, I'm more interested in track time than autocross.
lol no worries. thanks for the feedback though guys
Nice reply man. Later, QD.
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www.soloatlanta.com should get you on your way.
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forget Auto-X.... Road Racing is where its at... www.Nasa-se.com
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I started out autocrossing when the Clemson Sports Car Club was still holding on campus events. My autocrossing "career" ended once I did my first HPDE with NASA. I think I've done one or maybe two autocross events in the three years since I started track driving.
Yeah I have done quite a few, but once you hit real track autocross becomes a kids game and you can skip two autocrosses and run a SCCA PDX.
Yeah I was just saying X2 because I personally would rather do a track day, BUT, I started autocrossing before I did a track event in a car. Autocross is a great cheap thrill at what, $30? Like said, no risks, cheap, easy to get into, and car wear is far less.
With all of this, www.soloatlanta.com is your best friend.
i dont see why any of you guys would recommend someone who doesnt seem to have any experience in competitive or high performance driving other than the backroads on his way home from work to skip autocross and go straight to PDX/HPDE... in my opinion, everyone who wants to do any sort of track driving needs to get a few autocross events under their belt before going to road atlanta and actually putting themselves in a high-risk environment before they REALLY know the limits of their car...
to the OP: go on www.soloatlanta.com for more information on local autocross events. autocross is a great way to learn your limits and the cars limits, and also to get a feel for everything.
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i agree but not always.... HPDE with NASA is a great program. Last Road Atlanta event i was with a girl that had never been on a track or had any high performance driving experience and her BF got her the HPDE thing as an anniversary gift. she went out in a Z06 Corvette and did great... even though i did pass her a couple times, she seemed to be learning quickly and having a lot of fun.
HPDE is a learning experience... they dont just throw you to the sharks and say good luck.
One does not need to autocross before getting into HPDE. As a general rule, the track day newbie won't be pushing his/her car nearly hard enough to get into much trouble. One of the jobs an HPDE instructor has is cultivating the tools available to the student to get the most out of the car. Our, that is NASA's, first HPDE 1 sessions of the day typically start out as little more than higher speed parade laps. The sessions get faster as the weekend progresses and the students become more confident behind the wheel on track.
Track driving and autocross, although related, require slightly differing approaches. I had an instructor once that nearly instantly recognized that, up to that point, most of my driving experience was from autocross rather than track days; my control inputs were more abrupt than was appropriate for the track.
The bottom line, though, is that amateur motorsports is a great way to develop one's driving abilities, get to know the car, and actually use the car up to it's limits. It matters more that one get involved with an activity that he/she is comfortable with and will have fun doing than which of those activities it is.
No one said you had to. Just stating that it would probably be a good idea to do so. Like we all seem to agree, a nice cheap way to get out and test (to an extent) your car and get a good feel for it before you head out to an open track.
Saule Goode, fellas. Later, QD.
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Eh, Thighs strongly implied it in his post, or I thought so at least.
But, I do think we're all in agreement that autocross is good way to get into the wonderful world of amateur motorsports.
Hazel is graet. I actually started working for NASA by flagging corners. I've flagged at VIR about a half dozen times, and Road Atlanta once.Haha well darn.
I work for Road Atlanta so enjoy hearing Hazel's, she is my god.
You should stick around for our Saturday night awards banquet and meet some of us, that is if you haven't already.
When is that, every Saturday NASA weekend? I always forget or am uninformed until the day of about cookouts and get togethers after the races and never have a change of clothes lol.
Yeah true, hell PDX only allows what like 90mph tops I think in the A and B group, no curb use, etc. SCCA really went pussy on PDX, it's more of fast parade laps then a real track day.
Good points StraightSix. I have noticed lots of drivers who are fast at autocross aren't as fast at road racing right away, it's a different ball game. Autocross requires a much more aggressive form of driving as road racing requires much more smooth driving.
By the way, do you HPDE? What car?
Can someone select me an event i cant find one
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Here are a couple of links for you to a SCCA PDX and Time Trial FAQs that I wrote:
SCCA PDX FAQ: http://www.scsportscar.com/modules/n...=2142&forum=13
SCCA Time Trial FAQ: http://www.scsportscar.com/modules/n...=2150&forum=13
Just to clear up a few things that I saw written in this thread:
The recent event that run on July 11th by the Buccaneer SCCA was a SOLO/Autocross event. This wasn't a PDX. A PDX was run by the SCR-SCCA at Roebling Road on June 27th and 28th that I was the event Chair at.
There is a considerable difference in cost to enter an autocross versus a PDX. The Roebling autox for example was $35/$45 for members/non members for one day, while my PDX event at Roebling was $320 for two days with in car instruction included.
But, there is a huge difference in seat time between an autocross/SOLO event and a PDX. At the Roebling autocross, you received six ~70 second runs on the course. A total of ~7 minutes of seat time. At the SCR Roebling PDX, you had ten 20 minutes sessions, a total of 200 minutes of seat time.
So at best, the autocross was ~$5 per minute of seat time.
The PDX was $1.60 per minute.
SCCA PDX does not neccesarily have a "90 mph" speed limit as was mentioned earlier in the thread. At our SCR Roebling PDX I was one of the instructors, and none of us gave our students any sort of speed limit, we simply worked with them to get them comfortable at speed. By then end of day one, my student could go as fast as he could with the corner exit speed that he was able to get onto the front straight. Day two, he went even faster down the straight, since his exit speed was faster.
I run SCCA Autocross and Track events, and I also run track events with NASA. You can't go wrong with any of these events. Autocross teaches you great car control that translates well to driving on the track. Former autocrossers usually pick up track driving very quickly, but that isn't to say that you need to autocross first. Some people have no interest in autocross.
Whatever your interest is, get out to an event. I have had most of my students look at me and say that they wish they had found these type of events sooner.
I get out and HPDE when I can. I'm usually in my gold '90 Civic hatchback, #74. I drove some at Road Atlanta the last time we were there, in HPDE 3 on Friday and some of the HPDE 2 sessions on Saturday. The brakes started feeling really mushy after the last session I drove in, and tried bleeding them Saturday night and Sunday morning. I say tried because the master cylinder wasn't pushing fluid to the left front or right rear caliper; it had failed. Drove the car back home and replaced the master Monday morning, and had a decent pedal again.
I have a video from RA. I also have some older stuff up on YouTube. One is an AR Region autocross the other is from a DE 2 session @ Roebling .
When NASA is at Road Atlanta I don't usually get the time to get out on track. My duties in timing tend to keep me pretty busy.
What do you do? I'm usually F&C.
Chief of Timing and Scoring. I'm in the tower but not on the track net, so you guys on the corners never get to hear my cheery voice, lol.
Haha well darn.
I work for Road Atlanta so enjoy hearing Hazel's, she is my god.
Haha well darn.
I work for Road Atlanta so enjoy hearing Hazel's, she is my god.
hiring?? lol
Sweet sounds good, I am of age, and I don't know, I just feel goofy in all white lol.
Free beer and food after every saturday nasa event.... i was in pit lane for the enduro at Lowes during the awards so i didnt get any then but there is always free beer and food during saturdays awards ceremony.
Simon u need to come find us at the Fandango Racing trailer in August RA.... stop by and say whats up.
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There wasn't any food or beer at Lowe's since we had to be out by 6pm. That's also why the sprint awards were presented during the enduro.
I know the feeling about feeling a little goofy in white at an awards party. I felt the same way after flagging VIR and going to their awards.
Will do, maybe I will have a car out there so I can play lol.
Thighs and QD seem to be the only peoplen with a brain here. (no offense)
Don't go out onto track, especially a track like Road Atlanta for your first performance event. That is just stupid. Finding out that your car has snap oversteer in a autocross is way better than finding that out for the first in the esses.
Lets not forget the difference in price. AutoX is around $40, Road Racing can be nearly 10x that.
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Ummm SCCA PDX is $100...
Which is still cheaper than any track event...
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That IS a track event....on a road course, like Road Atlanta....
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