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    Default FIA releases 2009 & 2010 Formula 1 cost cutting measures.

    Autosport....

    The World Motor Sport Council met in Monaco on 12 December 2008. The following decisions were taken:

    FORMULA ONE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

    The following measures to reduce costs in Formula One have been agreed by the World Motor Sport Council. These proposed changes have the unanimous agreement of the Formula One teams, who have played a major role in their development. The FIA is grateful to the Formula One Teams' Association (FOTA) and its Chairman Luca di Montezemolo for their incisive contribution.

    2009

    Engine

    Engine life to be doubled. Each driver will use a maximum of eight engines for the season plus four for testing (thus 20 per team).

    Limit of 18,000 rpm.

    No internal re-tuning. Adjustment to trumpets and injectors only.

    The three-race rule voted on 5 November remains in force.

    Cost of engines to independent teams will be approximately 50% of 2008 prices.

    Unanimous agreement was reached on a list of proposed changes to the Renault engine for 2009; all other engines will remain unchanged. Comparative testing will not be necessary.

    Testing

    No in-season testing except during race weekend during scheduled practice.

    Aerodynamic research

    No wind tunnel exceeding 60% scale and 50 metres/sec to be used after 1 January 2009.

    A formula to balance wind tunnel-based research against CFD research, if agreed between the teams, will be proposed to the FIA.

    Factory activity

    Factory closures for six weeks per year, to accord with local laws.

    Race weekend

    Manpower to be reduced by means of a number of measures, including sharing information on tyres and fuel to eliminate the need for "spotters".

    Sporting spectacle

    Market research is being conducted to gauge the public reaction to a number of new ideas, including possible changes to qualifying and a proposal for the substitution of medals for points for the drivers. Proposals will be submitted to the FIA when the results of the market research are known.

    Note: It is estimated that these changes for 2009 will save the manufacturer teams approximately 30% of their budgets compared to 2008, while the savings for independent teams will be even greater.


    2010

    Power train

    Engines will be available to the independent teams for less than €5 million per team per season. These will either come from an independent supplier or be supplied by the manufacturer teams backed by guarantees of continuity. If an independent supplier, the deal will be signed no later than 20 December 2008.

    This same engine will continue to be used in 2011 and 2012 (thus no new engine for 2011).

    Subject to confirmation of practicability, the same transmission will be used by all teams.

    Chassis

    A list of all elements of the chassis will be prepared and a decision taken in respect of each element as to whether or not it will remain a performance differentiator (competitive element).

    Some elements which remain performance differentiators will be homologated for the season.

    Some elements will remain performance differentiators, but use inexpensive materials.

    Elements which are not performance differentiators will be prescriptive and be obtained or manufactured in the most economical possible way.

    Race weekend

    Standardised radio and telemetry systems.

    Ban on tyre warmers.

    Ban on mechanical purging of tyres.

    Ban on refueling.

    Possible reduction in race distance or duration (proposal to follow market research).

    Factory activity

    Further restrictions on aerodynamic research.

    Ban on tyre force rigs (other than vertical force rigs).

    Full analysis of factory facilities with a view to proposing further restrictions on facilities.

    Longer term

    The FIA and FOTA will study the possibility of an entirely new power train for 2013 based on energy efficiency (obtaining more work from less energy consumed). Rules to be framed so as to ensure that research and development of such a power train would make a real contribution to energy-efficient road transport.

    An enhanced Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) system is likely to be a very significant element of an energy-efficient power train in the future. In the short term, KERS is part of the 2009 regulations, but is not compulsory. For 2010 FOTA is considering proposals for a standard KERS system. The FIA awaits proposals.

    A number of further amendments were adopted for the 2009 and 2010 Sporting and Technical Regulations.

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    man...........that is depressing.
    funny that they made renault change their engine for 09,lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dazn
    man...........that is depressing.
    funny that they made renault change their engine for 09,lol
    My opinion is that before the engine freeze, Renault engine wasn't as good as it could have been. They used that to be allowed development. Then they began to win.

    I think Ferrari claimed Renault's engine had an additional 20hp from the change.

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    So it looks like they're going to make further changes depending on market studies to maximize profits. Figures - it's a business after all.

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    i say just give em some safety standard and let them spend whatever they want and build the chassis and engine however wild they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoe
    i say just give em some safety standard and let them spend whatever they want and build the chassis and engine however wild they want.

    most genious idea ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoe
    i say just give em some safety standard and let them spend whatever they want and build the chassis and engine however wild they want.
    With that idea, F1 will be dead by 2010.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    With that idea, F1 will be dead by 2010.
    highly doubting that...they may loose a few more teams but these are billion dollar companies, they are smarter than to ALL run themselves into the ground.

    F1 was never a profitable idea for the teams themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck
    highly doubting that...they may loose a few more teams but these are billion dollar companies, they are smarter than to ALL run themselves into the ground.
    F1 was never a profitable idea for the teams themselves.
    You miss understood.

    A free engine and chassis rule would allow a single package to dominate. This is exactly what the sport is trying to get away from. Remember the Schumacher Ferrari era?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    You miss understood.

    A free engine and chassis rule would allow a single package to dominate. This is exactly what the sport is trying to get away from. Remember the Schumacher Ferrari era?
    I don't know that it would really allow a single package to dominate directly. Indirectly, a no limit rule set would move the racing off the track and into the bank accounts. The company with the deepest pockets would then dominate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoe
    i say just give em some safety standard and let them spend whatever they want and build the chassis and engine however wild they want.
    Back to the days where Ferrari burns through one engine a race but wins every race.

    No tire warmers? Coming out of the pit may be interesting.

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    He was saying if they did the no limit rule like the guy said above then it would be dead by 2010 I think.

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    So are they making these changes to make things more competitve or is this due to lack of funds all around?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne
    So are they making these changes to make things more competitve or is this due to lack of funds all around?
    Pretty sure the title of the thread sums it up, and answers that question. Reading owns joo.

    The changes should make for interesting seasons for the next couple of years. It does look like there won't be a spec engine in 2010, though, which is good. I suppose we'll see how this affects the racing when the season starts.

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