shiits expensive man. In a good track day you can tear up a set of tires pretty damn good and def. go through a set of brake pads. I would love to go, but those parts on top of the price of admission is too rich for my blood...
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shiits expensive man. In a good track day you can tear up a set of tires pretty damn good and def. go through a set of brake pads. I would love to go, but those parts on top of the price of admission is too rich for my blood...
used race tires FREE- $250Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselNuts
brakes pads- $80-$200 (will last a full year + of trackdays)
entry fee- $FREE- $450
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Originally Posted by AnthonyF
mustangs can't handle? but a tacoma does?
you just turned my world upside down.
A lot of the costs involved change depending on what car you bring to the event and what track you go to. It is very possible to do track events without spending a crap load.Quote:
Originally Posted by DieselNuts
As an example, I got into NASA through their work for credit program where a person works two events and can drive one at no charge (for the entry fee).
I have yet to go through a set of brake pads in a single event, nor a set of tires in a single event. I think the biggest misconception about track days is that one has to have some uber prepared car and it just isn't true. I track my car on street pads, street tires, and a stock suspension. I'm definitely not fast, but I have fun. Having a track pad, R-comps and some suspension would certainly help get my car faster, but that stuff just isn't in the cards.
Mustangs don't handle all that well stock. Generally, the fast ones have a lot of aftermarket suspension bits thrown at them before they turn well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HiPSI
The Tacoma on the other hand has a much better suspension design. I'm not sure about the latest models, but the older ones had upper and lower A-arms in the front and a live axle rear. That front suspension design is much better than late model Mustangs.
the few trackdays i've been to had several mustangs out there with mild to moderate suspension work. they had no problems getting around the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by StraightSix
tacomas don't handle well stock either ;). even the fancy lowered one is more for looks than anything.
do a little research, you may be surprised :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HiPSI
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Originally Posted by green91
The Toyota Tacoma X-Runner is a different animal than the regular Tacoma.
I ran my miata in XP but it was not much more than a lightly prepped CSP car with a JRSC. I still had lots more I could do to it just to run well in CSP but the SC bumped me to SM2 and I had the FM underbrace which put me in XP, otherwise it was just a little suspension and brakes. I like to run in higher classes so I don't have to worry about what I do to the car. I autox for fun and development so my class doesn't matter to me. I don't like people complaining about some mod just because of some gray area in the rules. I loved the car on both autox and on a road course. I could keep up with most of the NA elises that would come out because most of the owners don't yet know how to drive one. Once Tripper put the SC on his I couldn't keep up anymore. I sold it and got another bike and I've been doing more on track on 2 wheels and focusing on my development of the other race cars in our group. As for tearing things up at a track day. My Miata would usually run 3-4 events on a set of HP+ Hawk front pads and the rears would last the full year. My BFG street tires lasted 3 events and didn't show much wear when I got a different set of rims for some A048's and only ran the BFG's on the street. Even the A048's would last 5-6 full weekends with some street driving in between. My saturn I run from time to time is completely stock except for a set of General UHP tires and I flog it like a thief in Singapore and it still drives my gear, me, and my friends home every time. All the excuses I hear each time for not going to the track are from those who have never been. Yes you risk crashing your car but if you're remotely smart about it you won't have a problem. The entry fee isn't that much when you look at what some other weekends of fun can cost.
$$$$ are my on only issue.
You can get a set of hawk blues to last a full season (NOT FOR STREET!!!) and a set of tires to last 3-5+ events. Work an SCCA weekend. The PDX entry fee is $50 but when you work you get paid $80. So its like getting paid $30 dollars to track your car...cant beat that
Matt is right. You can do a trackday at TGP for $180. That's cheaper than the speeding ticket you'll get in the mountains, and you don't have to worry about losing your license. You don't need a roll bar. It's safer than the mountains. There's lots of run off room, there's no bicycles, there's no motorcycles, there's no gravel to hit, and there is no trees to hit. It is a blast no matter if your car has 125HP or 500HP, wether you have street tires, or race tires.
Although if my car breaks while at the track in AL, the tow bill is going to be crazy. If it breaks in the mtns, I just coast back home :DQuote:
Originally Posted by civic95
I try not to think about that. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by slow_hatch
What happened to your trailer?
I borrowed it last time, and can borrow it again. However Diesel is still expensive :(Quote:
Originally Posted by civic95
Yeah would probably cost as much as the trackday.Quote:
Originally Posted by slow_hatch
actually more :( I'll be back soon though, i have a few issues with the civic to fix first before I can even contemplate heading that way again.Quote:
Originally Posted by civic95
I cant afford the tires+brakes+ gas.
It'd work out to somehting like $40/track mile. :eek:
?? uhh not even half thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Atlblkz06
i want to but no one has any real answers, and the forums dedicated to answering the questions i have is like talking to a 3 year old with down syndrome.
PM me, I can answer any of your questions without feeling like you are talking to a 3 year old with down syndrome.Quote:
Originally Posted by eraser4g63
I need a car I can take! Matt sell me yours for 6k LOL
buy it for $6600...PM me about it...Quote:
Originally Posted by THE KREEP
Age and money are my main reasons for never doing a track day.
age??Quote:
Originally Posted by NewGen33
Ya I'm 18 and with that comes some of difficulties. People seem reluctant to let younger people participate regardless of there maturity. Not saying everyone is like that but you hear it a lot. If your young your obviously dumb, immature, and have no idea what your doing.
Hmmm... :???: I was running at Road Atlanta right when I turned 16...Quote:
Originally Posted by NewGen33
And started autocrossing cars at 15.
Karting before puberty.
Have to hack the car up pretty bad for a rollbar to get on any real sort of track and I refuse to do so.
Must of been niceQuote:
Originally Posted by simontibbett
Age?? I raced my first kart when I was 8 yrs old. Age has nothing to do with it. I started instructing when I was 15 at autocross and 16 at road courses...im only 18 now. If you ask me, its better to get out on the track young. A lot of what you learn on the track transfers to the road. and teens need that more than anyone. Secondly, if you want to learn how to drive good on a track, the younger the better. it will keep you from getting bad habits and keeping them. You have guys who come in that are in there mid 20's who have the talent but have the bad habits too. its hard to break those guy because they have been doing it for so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by NewGen33
idk, just sounds like age is getting you down and keeping you from having fun. i say get your car ready and get out on the track. forget what people say. there will always be someone willing to help.
It helps when you have parents that support the sport. Most parents don't even want their children driving anything sporty or fast. Could you have raced your first kart at age 8 by yourself??? Then there is the fact that most 16 year olds don't make enough money to allow for trackdays, etc, most have a hard time paying for gas to and from school.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewAPM
^I paid for my stuff when I turned 16, I got a job as soon as I could drive lol.
As for before that, I thank my parents greatly, but was still neve given anything. I had to mow lawns, do chores, etc. But I admit they gave tons of support.
your right, if it wasnt for my parents, I would not even be close to where I am now. I wanna thank my dad more than anyone. BUT, I didnt get here b.c of my parents. I got here from working hard, saving money, and luck. When I first started racing,instead of going out to eat with my friends, i stayed at home and ate what was here. Instead of keeping my PS2 for video games, I sold it and payed for a track day. Instead of paying for gas to go to school, I rode the bus. I think if you want to do it bad enough, you will find a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by slow_hatch
Haha before I could work I used to buy broken PS2's and sell them. I used to bank buying and selling on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by matthewAPM
Yeah well i forced my mother to understand the sport and understand how it is safe and when she realized i was the one teaching other people that street racing is beyond stupidity, she stopped.Quote:
Originally Posted by slow_hatch
I have no racing family back ground WHAT SO EVER. I just knew before i was in middle school that racing is the only passion i will ever have. But Matt is right. It is up to you to make it happen. Believe it or not but often time there are parents that want it more than the kid and then it all falls through.
I haven't spent a dime this month on anything at all so i can ball out for the Petit Le Mans. Granted, i will be spectating but the point I'm trying to make is if you see it as something you want bad enough, nothing should get in your way. Parents should be the least of anyone's problems as far as I'm concerned. They don't choose your life for you and don't let them forget that.
when is the next autocross anyway? sign me up if it's close to snellville.
Whens the next lil tally fool???? I'm anxious
-Ant.
look in the event section. there is one oct 21 i think
And what did I tell you fool? I said for you youngsters to PM an oldie. AIGHT!?
-Ant.
my fault. ha.