The thing is that ive realy havent seen that many moded ss. unlike the wrx and the srt 4Originally Posted by jblaudio06
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The thing is that ive realy havent seen that many moded ss. unlike the wrx and the srt 4Originally Posted by jblaudio06
If you ever catch me at a meet or something, Ill take ya for a ride or something.
Have you driven or ridden in a modded rex Wagon?
ive never been in a modded wrx/wagon but i was realy thinking about a wagonOriginally Posted by Mr. Nemesis
Originally Posted by 91DSM
Only 80lbs more, and more practical![]()
Have not regretted my purchase at all. Im lightly modded. Only about 1500 in mods. Stage II currently.
ive seen a couple around here. i love that sound from the exhaust. the problem is how much i need down inorder to drive of in one of those because there pretty expensive
and thats why u should just get the MS3... or the MS6...dont let george mess ur head up..with that subbie talk.
263hp/280 tq.. stock, it has a electronic system in the ms3, to prevent torquesteer. but it is Fwd.. so go tot he Jim ellis mazda and go get u a Ms6 for 20k..
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ah get on AIM.. how the hell did u get banned on NECO again.....hahahOriginally Posted by Mr. Nemesis
AWD > FWD!!! i wish i was in your shoes.
FWD is lame. Get a 91dsm. AWD and cheap. LOL
Originally Posted by 1439/2000
Screw that if we're going older car go MAZDA AWD 323 GTR![]()
I spend money on HP not Brand Names.
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92 mazda mx-3 GS 2.0 Kfze [I Killed it]
Im done with the 4g63Originally Posted by 1439/2000
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Horrible comparison. You should've kept it to yourself.Originally Posted by Kyle
A STi is not an impossibility.
So true.Originally Posted by 1439/2000
Go for the WRX. You can find 02s for around 12K, you could spend the extra money on an STI shortblock and a 6speed swap and still should have another 4K for other mods. Wagon or sedan they're great practical cars.
The MS3 looks really nice but high HP and FWD should never go together. I'd definately take one over an SRT-4.
02 WRX Sport Wagon
Do you not have a 5 speed?
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I get told everytime I say I want a WRX to get an STI. The insurance has to be like $5K a year. And when people point towards a car that is like $8K more than you want to pay I consider it an impossibility.Originally Posted by fox
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SRT 4
Originally Posted by Mr. Nemesis
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you have the best looking delso i have ever seen, saw it last night at the V. Its nice.Originally Posted by 97WhYt_TeG
It's all up to what you want out of the car; if you want to make serious HP just start with the STI. If you want to make around 300whp the WRX is fine but at those levels the engine and tranny are both reaching failure points.Originally Posted by Kyle
02 WRX Sport Wagon
Huh.. Failure points.. How so? Even with the newer transmission from 2004-up
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Piston rings are weak on the EJ20, they can handle a lot of midrange boost but not upper RPM boost. The tranny is a mixed bag, some people have blown them up on stock cars and some people have run 350whp through them with no problems. 02s have notoriously weaker trannies than other years, 06s have the strongest gears. Personally I dont like the ratios on stock WRX 5speeds I've driven; 1-3 are fine but then the gap into 4th gear drops you way out of the powerband.Originally Posted by Kyle
02 WRX Sport Wagon
I know its a bad question but how much down do you think i need inorder to drive off in an sti? knowing my newbie Credit? i would love an sti the problem is insurance even though i have my mom for cosigningOriginally Posted by fox
it would rape u, just like my neon did....ooooooohhhh!!!!Originally Posted by Mr. Nemesis
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I hope we are kidding that a Mazda 3 could beat a WRX. Stage Two would rape it.
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For an $8,000 difference in price, you have to think of what you get.
An extra 100hp out of the box, Brembos, MUCH nicer interior, 6 disk changer, Defi gauge cluster, virtually indestructible drivetrain, nice wheels, better suspension, strong block, HIDs, and better styling.
If you can't afford it, then you just can't afford it.
You have to ask yourself what you really want. If it doesn't plan on seeing more than 300awhp, you'll be fine with the WRX. Anything much higher than that and you're begging to start breaking parts. If you plan on doing extensive modding/upgrading, there's no comparison for the price.
the ms3 did beat the 07 wrx on the track.. by 2 seconds i believe, and in every other category except the 0-60. the only cars they compare it to is the wrx b/c it is soo much better than the others in its class (civic-gti-ss-srt4). the ms3 makes as much as the stage2 makes(power wise).. But i mean if ur gonna get technical put a stage 2 ms3 and a stage 2 wrx against each other. stock v. stock is as fair a race as it will get.Originally Posted by Kyle
if u want the awd, id say go with the MS6 its cheaper than the ms3 and u could prob find a 06 Mazdaspeed 6 fully loaded for about the same as a Ms3. BUt if u want a wrx..i think u could maybe find a used EVO, for maybe around 20-21k. But since u had a awd dsm, u prob are tiredo f lookin at the 4g63... wrx's are pretty cheap these days.. and are nice cars. but im a mazda person..
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GET A Mazdaspeed3![]()
i only have 2gs for down so i have 2 do what ever i can with thatOriginally Posted by JITB
Originally Posted by 91DSM
if u got ur mom cosigning, that 2g's should be enough to get a 22k car...
But the thing is she has bad credit
im not sure how much taht matters, but the bank prob wont care.. they see it like this they have 2 people to suck money from, if u cant pay it she might be able to.. thats all they really care about. But u would be suprised, on what the dealer will sale u. But also shop around.. hate to buy something u dont want to pay for after a year or so.Originally Posted by 91DSM
u might wanna also check into how much mods are for each car.
I say Srt4 then wrx (in that order) don't bother with the rest.
AgreeOriginally Posted by JITB
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Thats also something i will doOriginally Posted by CH@Dbee
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ok so between the srt the wrx and the ss exclude the ms3. What are the defects on each? i see that the wrx have weak trannys and weak piston rings is that it?? Are there any problems with the srt4 or the ss? I havent really read anything bad on the srt4 and the ss. But of course i havent seen any modded ss out there. Also out of the three which one is cheaper to mod?
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well it sorta depends on what your plans are. Do you want to go for more of a straight line car or a car that's good in the twisies? SRT4 is the fastest from a roll. If you decided SRT-4 there tons of easy cheap mods that give you great power. Also make sure it's an 04 or 05, 03's have smaller injectors and no LSD. WRX's are quick as well. They will out handle a SRT easily. Not sure on the price to power ratio for the parts available. The new MazdaSpeed 3 is nice as well. Pretty quick too. The only problem you'll probably have is it's a new car and they're probably not to many parts available for them yet but I could be wrong. Good luck on your decision and make sure it's what you like![]()
wrx has that awd launch that the others dont, but then again how often do we run from a stop? Im looking for something that i can put some cash into and go out to play. so by far im thinking SRT, im thinking that for about the same money amount i can get better gains from a SRT then from a wrx...in my opinion and from what i have seen.Originally Posted by Ericp
Originally Posted by kfzemx3
GTR? Or GTX? Hmm...