Pics from the "Vintage Class" oldschool meet brought to you by the Burn Unit & GZ

[TheVengeance]

Man.. for a last minute call up my oldschool friends this was an AWESOME meetup..


It was all about QUALITY rather than quantity at this one.. every car was well done.. even if it wasnt clean!

We metup at Brook Run park then took a quick run on the streets then got some food then met again across from our shop Garage Zero to get these last shots..


anyways heres my shitty camera phone pics of the quick Vintage Class meet.


there was a 69 Lemans there.. waiting for pics of it.




























RX7 with a built Ford 302 V8






super clean AE86



1983 TE72 Wagon with a 4AGZE






Of course yall know my 77 Celica Liftback"Payback"



510 with a KA.. fresh from the autocross.. literally.



1972 S30 with a tripple webbered L28



R31 Skyline 4door with an RB series motor.

ahahha.. square eyes clique.



a 1973 S30 with a Turbo L series.



and seriously the cleanest ride there.. MINT.. and i do mean MINT 510 Wagon.
my crappy phone pics DONT DO THIS CAR JUSTICE.. half of us wanted to sell ours and buy it off homie.. ahaha





so to the rest of yall..







And for anyone who couldnt make it we missed yall.. tell your friends.. come out to the next one!!!!

every Sunday on the THIRD week of each month!

at: 1PM
Liane Levetan Park at Brook Run
4770 N. Peachtree Rd. 30338

only the years 1910-to 1987


Or anything up to BOXY 80s SHAPED years.. im still learning what cutoff years still allow stuff like E30s and MK2 golfs..

[D3UC3S]

Hopefully i can make the next meet with my cousin. We'll bring a couple of 510's. One of them was TurboToms old car.

[Sinfix_15]

i want a 510!........

i thought that v8 1st gen was my old car until i saw it didnt have a sunroof.

[bu villain]

A couple more S30s wouldn't hurt. See ya'll next time.

[Elbow]

[quickdodge®]

Keep us updated, Vengeance. I'm going to do what I can to make the next one.

[TheVengeance]

I figured you wouldnt like it Simon... but Andrew sure didnt look sad at the monster rumble that emanated out of the hood and peeled the hell off at the end of the day.. on top of that, the kid hand built the engine and car himself.. and i mean.. himself.

so.. yep im sure many wont agree.. and im not say I do.. but I love seeing a youngin get his ride together, with his own money(that he maxed out)made good reliable power, and kinda let everyone know that the V8 is respected for a good reason....

and the dude is 22 years old..

*puts arm around his shoulder and smiles like a real OG would.


also that 69 I was talmbout..

[quickdodge®]

I figured you wouldnt like it Simon... but Andrew sure didnt look sad at the monster rumble that emanated out of the hood and peeled the hell off at the end of the day.. on top of that, the kid hand built the engine and car himself.. and i mean.. himself.

so.. yep im sure many wont agree.. and im not say I do.. but I love seeing a youngin get his ride together, with his own money(that he maxed out)made good reliable power, and kinda let everyone know that the V8 is respected for a good reason....

and the dude is 22 years old..

*puts arm around his shoulder and smiles like a real OG would.

For real. He'd been talking about that build for a while. I'm not a fan of it, myself, but for him to put all that together himself? Dammit, boy. I could wish I had half the knowledge he has.

[TheATLien]

77 Celica...one question...is that lip is it the mk1 duckbill lip?i ordered one like a week ago

[TheVengeance]

nah its actually a lip made for those year Celicas.. from Foxau2.

[RandomGuy]

one day...

[TheVengeance]

holy shit.. i was about to say.. BRING THAT OUT...


!!!!!

[Sinfix_15]

For real. He'd been talking about that build for a while. I'm not a fan of it, myself, but for him to put all that together himself? Dammit, boy. I could wish I had half the knowledge he has.

The 302 1st gen swap is literally the easiest swap known to man. It takes about 30 minutes to prep a 1st gen rx7 for a 302 to be installed into it. I did a 302 swap 1st gen in 1 day.




Simon, throw your rotary in a river and get with the program!!!

[D3UC3S]

Hahahaha. Simon knows how easy it is. Flip the K member, re-wire, bend some exhaust, and burn rubber...

[Elbow]

The 302 1st gen swap is literally the easiest swap known to man. It takes about 30 minutes to prep a 1st gen rx7 for a 302 to be installed into it. I did a 302 swap 1st gen in 1 day.




Simon, throw your rotary in a river and get with the program!!!

If I wanted a V8 I'd buy a Mustang or something. That would be stupid, especially considering it's a race car and I'd get butt raped racing against stock cars.

[Sinfix_15]

If I wanted a V8 I'd buy a Mustang or something. That would be stupid, especially considering it's a race car and I'd get butt raped racing against stock cars.

why do all you import people think v8s are heavy................?

it's 2012.............................................. . we're not talking about your granpa's chevelle.

A from the factory 302 weighs 506 lbs.
A from the factory 12a weighs 375 lbs.

302 alum heads drops 90 lbs.
R302 block drops 85 lbs.
302 AC compressor weighs 18 lbs
Carb vs EFI intake would probably be 20lbs, i'm guessing from personal experience, couldnt find the actual weight.

So, 506 = 128 lbs, not gonna include the block since that's not a common mod.

378 lbs.......................

I wonder if the extra 3 lbs of weight would be worth the power difference.... hmmmm...... let me do some figuring on my calculator and get back to you.

[silversol]

why do all you import people think v8s are heavy................?

it's 2012.............................................. . we're not talking about your granpa's chevelle.

A from the factory 302 weighs 506 lbs.
A from the factory 12a weighs 375 lbs.

302 alum heads drops 90 lbs.
R302 block drops 85 lbs.
302 AC compressor weighs 18 lbs
Carb vs EFI intake would probably be 20lbs, i'm guessing from personal experience, couldnt find the actual weight.

So, 506 = 128 lbs, not gonna include the block since that's not a common mod.

378 lbs.......................

I wonder if the extra 3 lbs of weight would be worth the power difference.... hmmmm...... let me do some figuring on my calculator and get back to you.

I love to see a v8 It looks like a fun car to me! And yes im sure anything you put in place of a rotary adds weight. hell you could store a rotory engine in a milk crete! I wonder how this would do with a light weight ls1? The has got me thinking about looking for a mazda since I have 2 perfect 302s sitting around on of which is a gt40p 302!

[David88vert]

I've driven several V8 RX7s and plenty of rotary powered RX7s. Placement of weight is just as important as the weight itself. Not one V8 stock-chassied RX7 has handled as well as the rotary powered ones - and I've been in all generations. FC is the most forgiving, with the FD next. The SA/FB chassis is already light in the rear, and when you push the weight forward with the V8, it makes the tail snap without any warning, even if you run no rear sway, and run the RB front bar.
If you are only building a drag car, then build a Mustang - it's cheaper, and parts are easily available.
If you are building a cheap track car, then keep the rotary in the RX7 chassis.
If you just want to build a fun street car, go with whatever you are most familiar with, and have the parts and budget for.

[TheVengeance]

okay fellers.. a quick E-flyer I made..

can yall pass this around?...thank you.

lets get the word out so we can have the V8 argument face to face... *GASP!

[Elbow]

why do all you import people think v8s are heavy................?

it's 2012.............................................. . we're not talking about your granpa's chevelle.

A from the factory 302 weighs 506 lbs.
A from the factory 12a weighs 375 lbs.

302 alum heads drops 90 lbs.
R302 block drops 85 lbs.
302 AC compressor weighs 18 lbs
Carb vs EFI intake would probably be 20lbs, i'm guessing from personal experience, couldnt find the actual weight.

So, 506 = 128 lbs, not gonna include the block since that's not a common mod.

378 lbs.......................

I wonder if the extra 3 lbs of weight would be worth the power difference.... hmmmm...... let me do some figuring on my calculator and get back to you.

Durrrr where did I say anything about weight?

lol @ me being an "import person."

[nelson9995]

i gave you a thumbs up in my gf's black ek civic on sunday around 5pm by brandsmart

[Sinfix_15]

I've driven several V8 RX7s and plenty of rotary powered RX7s. Placement of weight is just as important as the weight itself. Not one V8 stock-chassied RX7 has handled as well as the rotary powered ones - and I've been in all generations. FC is the most forgiving, with the FD next. The SA/FB chassis is already light in the rear, and when you push the weight forward with the V8, it makes the tail snap without any warning, even if you run no rear sway, and run the RB front bar.
If you are only building a drag car, then build a Mustang - it's cheaper, and parts are easily available.
If you are building a cheap track car, then keep the rotary in the RX7 chassis.
If you just want to build a fun street car, go with whatever you are most familiar with, and have the parts and budget for.

It's not hard to alter the firewall and move the 302 back further in the car. I hammered my firewall wayyyy in when i did the swap, the engine sat pretty deep in the car. If i cared enough to cut it, i could have put it wherever. I guarantee i could come very close to duplicating the geometry of a rotary powered rx7. The only thing i know you couldnt do would be the center of gravity, since the v8 is taller.

The only reason this doesnt get get done is because it doesnt get done. People with the skills and/or budget to do it move on to better projects.

[Sinfix_15]

Durrrr where did I say anything about wait?

lol @ me being an "import person."

That's what you were thinking. Same thing David hinted at. "big heavy engine in the front takes away the car's handling"

"import person" was the wrong label........ "purest" would be a better way to word it. You dont want to put "A" engine into "B" car.

[Elbow]

That's what you were thinking. Same thing David hinted at. "big heavy engine in the front takes away the car's handling"

"import person" was the wrong label........ "purest" would be a better way to word it. You dont want to put "A" engine into "B" car.

That's not what I was thinking at all, I was thinking how uncompetitive it would be. lol

[David88vert]

It's not hard to alter the firewall and move the 302 back further in the car. I hammered my firewall wayyyy in when i did the swap, the engine sat pretty deep in the car. If i cared enough to cut it, i could have put it wherever. I guarantee i could come very close to duplicating the geometry of a rotary powered rx7. The only thing i know you couldnt do would be the center of gravity, since the v8 is taller.

The only reason this doesnt get get done is because it doesnt get done. People with the skills and/or budget to do it move on to better projects.

I agree. Yes, I know that you can cut the firewall and move it back. You could also build a complete tube chassis and custom make a fiberglass body. There are lots of things that you could do - but the average swap doesn't do these things - and neither did this install. I happen to know how to balance out the suspension, and am able to drive around the extra weight on the nose - again, not something that the average swap has/can do.

For the same amount of time/money/effort, you could get an old Mustang that already has a 302 in it, pop on a Maximum Motorsports Road & Track kit, and some good tires and brakes, and run better times at the track.
Or get a MM Launch Box if you wanted to go to the strip.

[RandomGuy]

puttin a ford motor into a RX-7?

that's almost as weird as this guy:


lolol!

[Elbow]

puttin a ford motor into a RX-7?

that's almost as weird as this guy:


lolol!

That's so awesome. lol

[CSquared]

They started making my car in 86. Does that qualify? Don't make me drive the busted celica supra :/

[Sinfix_15]

That's not what I was thinking at all, I was thinking how uncompetitive it would be. lol

The only reason it would be uncompetitive is because swapping the engine would land you in a class vs heavily modified cars. If i could put a 302 in a 1st gen rx7 and race vs nothing but other 1st gen rx7s...... there would be a lot of weedeater powered rx7s getting lapped.

[David88vert]

puttin a ford motor into a RX-7?

that's almost as weird as this guy:


lolol!

When the ECU died in my foxbody, I came really close to dropping in my 13b-rew race motor. I held off and just bought an EMS instead. Was a close decision though at the time.

[Sinfix_15]

I agree. Yes, I know that you can cut the firewall and move it back. You could also build a complete tube chassis and custom make a fiberglass body. There are lots of things that you could do - but the average swap doesn't do these things - and neither did this install. I happen to know how to balance out the suspension, and am able to drive around the extra weight on the nose - again, not something that the average swap has/can do.

For the same amount of time/money/effort, you could get an old Mustang that already has a 302 in it, pop on a Maximum Motorsports Road & Track kit, and some good tires and brakes, and run better times at the track.
Or get a MM Launch Box if you wanted to go to the strip.

you dont have to be chip foose to move a 302 back 5-6 inches in a 1st gen rx7. The K member is about as complex as a 2x4 and is not connected to the suspension. The engine bay of a 1st gen is a square box with nearly straight across K member bolted to it. The fact that you can flip it around backwards without effecting the car in any way should explain the simplicity of this vehicle. The only thing preventing you from moving the engine backwards is the firewall.

The only reason this doesnt get done is because it doesnt get done. The only reason to use a rotary engine is if you like rotary engines. The only reason a rotary will out run a piston on a race track is because of the rule book.

[Sinfix_15]

puttin a ford motor into a RX-7?

lolol!

probably more than 1/2 of the rx7s in existence have something other than a rotary engine under their hood.

[Sinfix_15]

When the ECU died in my foxbody, I came really close to dropping in my 13b-rew race motor. I held off and just bought an EMS instead. Was a close decision though at the time.

If i ever saw a rotary powered foxbody........................................... .....

i swear on my mother's life i would whip out my dick right there in the parking lot and piss on this vehicle. I would probably call the police and report it. I'm no lawyer..... but i imagine that crime against humanity would have to be illegal in some way.

[Elbow]

The only reason this doesnt get done is because it doesnt get done. The only reason to use a rotary engine is if you like rotary engines. The only reason a rotary will out run a piston on a race track is because of the rule book.

Not completely true. Many people choose to run a rotary other than just liking them and many have won and beaten V8 powered cars in classes with very limited rules.

$10,000 to build a V8 or rotary, you can guarantee the V8 will be the better motor?

We've had this discussion before, so I won't get into it as you like V8s and I like rotaries, I don't have anything against V8s and my love is clearly in road racing where rotaries are great engines, not just because of the rules. If I were building a drag car I'd probably go V8 over anything else, and don't get me wrong I love a high revving V8 in a road race car too.

[Elbow]

probably more than 1/2 of the rx7s in existence have something other than a rotary engine under their hood.

I doubt that.

The only reason you see so many V8 RX-7s these days is too many kids get them and either see the BS pics that go around bashing the rotary or hear horror stories from other ex-rotary owners that knew nothing about them and blew them up.

Personally I don't get it, buy an RX-7 to have a rotary, want a V8? Buy a V8 powered car or buy something like a 240 to drop a V8 in if you want the swap. That's just me though. I know it's cheaper to make power from a V8, but still...

[Sinfix_15]

Not completely true. Many people choose to run a rotary other than just liking them and many have won and beaten V8 powered cars in classes with very limited rules.

$10,000 to build a V8 or rotary, you can guarantee the V8 will be the better motor?

We've had this discussion before, so I won't get into it as you like V8s and I like rotaries, I don't have anything against V8s and my love is clearly in road racing where rotaries are great engines, not just because of the rules. If I were building a drag car I'd probably go V8 over anything else, and don't get me wrong I love a high revving V8 in a road race car too.

And i clearly proved you wrong. Rotary powered vehicles win races the same way the Seahawks beat the Packers. The rulebook allows rotaries to compete. Yes, 10k budget i could build a nonrotary rx7 that would easily beat a rotary rx7 and that's even factoring in that half of my budget would be spent swapping engines. Lets say i had an rx7 with a stock ls1 in it and you had a rx7 with a stock 12a in it. Give us both 10k to mod, what happens?

I doubt that.

The only reason you see so many V8 RX-7s these days is too many kids get them and either see the BS pics that go around bashing the rotary or hear horror stories from other ex-rotary owners that knew nothing about them and blew them up.

Personally I don't get it, buy an RX-7 to have a rotary, want a V8? Buy a V8 powered car or buy something like a 240 to drop a V8 in if you want the swap. That's just me though. I know it's cheaper to make power from a V8, but still...

The rx7 is an amazing vehicle and worthy of it's lore. I love rx7s. Rx7 is probably my favorite car period.......

but rotary engines are shit. a lot of people feel the same way, we're not gonna let that pathetic excuse for an engine keep us from enjoying rx7s.

[Elbow]

And i clearly proved you wrong. Rotary powered vehicles win races the same way the Seahawks beat the Packers. The rulebook allows rotaries to compete. Yes, 10k budget i could build a nonrotary rx7 that would easily beat a rotary rx7 and that's even factoring in that half of my budget would be spent swapping engines. Lets say i had an rx7 with a stock ls1 in it and you had a rx7 with a stock 12a in it. Give us both 10k to mod, what happens?



The rx7 is an amazing vehicle and worthy of it's lore. I love rx7s. Rx7 is probably my favorite car period.......

but rotary engines are shit. a lot of people feel the same way, we're not gonna let that pathetic excuse for an engine keep us from enjoying rx7s.

LOL You didn't even remotely prove me wrong, you ignored everything I stated. Your example was the 787B, which is the worst example. Rule books tried to push rotaries out, they never gave them the upper hand in professional racing. Your argument in that arena is hilarious.

Take the same car and same weight. One with a rotary one with an LS. $10,000 to spend on the engine ONLY. See which would win. Could be the V8, could be the rotary. Who knows. Comparing a 12A to an LS is just stupid though, I could be stupid and argue that a PP 12A would probably beat a stock LS, except my engine would costs more than a stock LS. lol

In my opinion the rotary MAKES the RX-7. There are other chassis out there just as able.

Stupid rotary race cars...

[Elbow]

And for the record, I probably sound like I'm saying the rotary is the best engine ever made and was hated on so was never king but I'm not. lol

[Genji-Sama]

....ur celica.....is. GAHDLIKE.

[TheVengeance]

They started making my car in 86. Does that qualify? Don't make me drive the busted celica supra :/

what car do you drive?

if its an 86 then you all good.. if its an 89 but has 86 looks then you all good.. if your car is a 90 but looks like an 86 you all good!!


I got a gang of new oldschoolers coming.. im stoked about that.