Not trying to be a dick....but you're insanely wrong about the 420a. I think there's a reason it only came non-turbo fwd. They can make power with a good build, but a 4g can make the same amounts(probably more actually) than a fully built 420. I like it in my brothers neon, but it's not like I'm going to pull my 4g out of my Talon for one lol.