Its a miniature build up thread...!(56k--WARNING)

[mxglory258]

lower the back... its not a rwd v8 beast... it doesnt even have rwd... or 100hp...

just my 2C

Fuck your 2 cents dude. Your an idiot. He had full intentions on lowering the back (if he already hasn't).


Read the thread, don't just look at the pictures. I guess you would, of course, have to graduate from pre-school to be able to do so.


Nice work man. I little bit of jumping the gun, but it happens. Don't go to over board. I would say 17's on that car would be pretty cool. I personally don't like anything smaller than a 16 myself. TO ME!!! it leaves to much wheel well open.

[DeeAOne]

pics... Closeup of the front...AFTER the drop.




Wooo, my new intake!! freshly installed today!




Hmm...seems like im lackin in the amount of pix. I'll take some more of the actual RESULT of the weekend project...tomorrow.....

what motor is that? my friend has a sunfire gt and the engine looks nothiing like that.

[Fr33way]

No offense but this is not the thread for valid suspension information.

[madking411]

Yeah, this build WAS ~90% JUST for looks.....the other 10% was for me to get better high-speed cornering....sure, i mean, it DOES bounce but it reaally isnt bad at all. To me, its more worth it to have the cornering/swerving ability than be worried about bouncin....

No offense but this is not the thread for valid suspension information.

I know. I realized that once i started really gettin into the thread, and as i was takin more and more pix. Hah, i was just REALLY excited about finally getting my car lowered.

I did miss the not sure if i'm lowering the rear. My bad. Sad thing is, i read that post lol

But....i AM thinkin of lowering the back, just not as much as the front, cuz i DO actually like that ''v8'' look or whatever. i dont CARE if its rice. I like the way it looks, and its not a BAD look for my car either. If i do lower it in the back, it'll just be to even it up with the front a bit. Not slam to the ground though.

[speedminded]

Yeah, this build WAS ~90% JUST for looks.....the other 10% was for me to get better high-speed cornering....sure, i mean, it DOES bounce but it reaally isnt bad at all. To me, its more worth it to have the cornering/swerving ability than be worried about bouncin....

I know. I realized that once i started really gettin into the thread, and as i was takin more and more pix. Hah, i was just REALLY excited about finally getting my car lowered.

But....i AM thinkin of lowering the back, just not as much as the front, cuz i DO actually like that ''v8'' look or whatever. i dont CARE if its rice. I like the way it looks, and its not a BAD look for my car either. If i do lower it in the back, it'll just be to even it up with the front a bit. Not slam to the ground though.

A Sunfire with stock springs and good stock shocks will run circles around your car in its current state, are you familiar with the term understeer at all? You might as well be towing a jetski because it's going to plow through the turns like there is one behind it. SRT4's are jacked up in the rear for traction, it's too much power for a FWD and they have to have that extra weight up front in order to get any...but it also comprises the handling.

Anti-sway bars and shocks are by far more important for handling than springs or the ride height of a vehicle, lowering the car with stiffer springs only makes it less predictable while do little if anything for the handling. Handling is a balance of several components and right now you have 1 of the 3+, without the rest working together each one useless and actually makes things worse...

[EmminoDaGreat]

Mcpherson struts are the easiest i <3 lowering cars with that kind of setup.

[madking411]

As for the lower bolt holding the strut on, was it a bolt & a nut where you had to hold one while turning the other one to get it off?

Yeah, there is a bolt and a nut, but i didnt hafta hold onto the bolt to loose the nut...Thats how tight it was/is.

[speedminded]

Mcpherson struts are the easiest i <3 lowering cars with that kind of setup.

wha...you don't like working on the double reverse wishbone bs like the Accord in your avatar? Or maybe that's only on the coupes? The first time I worked on one of those was putting on Tein SS on a 2001 Accord Coupe...sitting there looking and studying it wondering if I released this one bolt is the entire thing going to flip around like a transformer and cut my arm off, haha. It apparently works but seems like Honda over engineered it a lil.

[homemadeS14s]

looks good man

[Frög]

wow!!! im just going to stay out of this..

[ryanh300]

wow!!! im just going to stay out of this..

Good idea, I think I'll join you in not getting into this.

[an0therh22]

i think this is the worst build up thread ive seen. or is it because i keep thinking about the k20 eg thread. well this thread has little to no usable information, no research done, no procedure. all in all nice try.

car looks alot better though. props for wrenching on your own car too.

[madking411]

i think this is the worst build up thread ive seen. or is it because i keep thinking about the k20 eg thread. well this thread has little to no usable information, no research done, no procedure. all in all nice try.

car looks alot better though. props for wrenching on your own car too.

hehhh...thanks...

[speedminded]

Here ya go! springs and dead shocks...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoID=8030536

[speedminded]

oh wait, here's another one...lololol
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoID=1794566

[puregroove]

oh wait, here's another one...lololol
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ideoID=1794566

LOL repped::

[madking411]

By the way.....i AM going to get new shocks......just not for at least a few weeks though. I read that i've got a window of about a month to a month and a half to get some new shocks before they blow...

[atlantamx3]

ummm by the looks of the pics you posted... they are ALREADY blown EVEN BEFORE you put the new springs on. I said that in an earlier post.

Sorry Bro.

[madking411]

ummm by the looks of the pics you posted... they are ALREADY blown EVEN BEFORE you put the new springs on. I said that in an earlier post.

Sorry Bro.

cuz theyre already all the way down? They werent ALL the way down...i pushed em down with my hand when i was takin it apart, cuz i wanted to see what they felt like...they came back up too...i dont think theyre blown..

[speedminded]

cuz theyre already all the way down? They werent ALL the way down...i pushed em down with my hand when i was takin it apart, cuz i wanted to see what they felt like...they came back up too...i dont think theyre blown..

lol, but you don't weigh 1/4 the weight of the car nor have the strength to equal that weight

[madking411]

lol, but you don't weigh 1/4 the weight of the car nor have the strength to equal that weight

Soooo, wait....ur sayin i had already had blown shocks, since i could move them with my hand?? I didnt say it was EASY to move them either now...

[Brian*]

HOLY SHIT SOMEONE LOCK THIS SHIT DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I tried being nice but now this has turned into some Domestic ass rice BULLSHIT!!! I'm out and retract my previous statement about no bashing...

[madking411]

just askin a Q......just wonderin....how is it that, when I decide to lower my car...i buy the parts....i install them....take pix of the car...and try to just post up the progress on my car, i get SOOO much HATE??

[speedminded]

just askin a Q......just wonderin....how is it that, when I decide to lower my car...i buy the parts....i install them....take pix of the car...and try to just post up the progress on my car, i get SOOO much HATE??

Didn't you make another thread asking what you should get and how you should do it?

[madking411]

Didn't you make another thread asking what you should get and how you should do it?

yeah, i think i did...a long time ago, before i did alil research and actually saved up the cash to pay for them..

[madking411]

Its the non-Ecotec. its the 2.2/2200 OHV engine.

[DeeAOne]

Its the non-Ecotec. its the 2.2/2200 OHV engine.

oh my buddy has the 2.4 twin cam (ecotec? not sure)

[atlantamx3]

Yeah if you can push them down by hand AND THEY STAY DOWN like in that pic... then they are blown.

There should be enough gas pressure in the strut to raise back up on its own.

[madking411]

Yeah if you can push them down by hand AND THEY STAY DOWN like in that pic... then they are blown.

There should be enough gas pressure in the strut to raise back up on its own.

Ohhhh...okay....i gotchya.

soo, now that i have my car lowered (with...blown shocks...), what kind of shocks should i get so i can still have my super-low stance, but without bouncing?

[speedminded]

Ohhhh...okay....i gotchya.

soo, now that i have my car lowered (with...blown shocks...), what kind of shocks should i get so i can still have my super-low stance, but without bouncing?

Shocks have nothing to do with the ride height of the car...

[madking411]

Shocks have nothing to do with the ride height of the car...

Well, i was just wondering because ive heard they have something like ''lowering shocks''?? Or that id need adjustable shocks??

maybe i should just get some KYB's.....?

[madking411]

You know....i think im gonna try another ''build-up'' thread later on down the road, whenever i start another BIG project....like.....maybe if/whenever i decide to turbo my car...or swap engines, or something like that...



I didnt think about acutually puttin procedures in the thread, cuz IMO that would've turned it into a ''walkthrough'', not a ''build-up'' though....