you can't be serious....Originally Posted by HypnoToad
you can't be serious....
u think a head of company would drive a caddy that looks like it just rolled out of the hood
he would drive a stock Benz
depends on the type of company....
Last edited by N/A EK; 08-26-2007 at 10:06 PM.
here is the VIP spark notes. I just wish to be there one day.
VIP Style or VIP car is very simple. Pronounced VIP or bippu not vee-eye-pee, like how we are used to saying it, but it is pronounced like a word. In Japan there is a large variety of luxury sedans available to purchase. VIP car starts with just that, the platform or the car. It’s not a VIP Car unless it starts with one of these cars. From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45. Then they take these platforms and merge on a massive body kit, larger rims that push the boundaries of offset fitment, an air suspension so that they can drive as low as they possibly can, and we can't forget about the exhausts that goes on these VIP Cars. Now, taking these aspects of a VIP Car, you then apply it to cars not accepted as a VIP Car. This in turn created a term I like to define as VIP Style Cars. There is a difference in Japan in regards to a VIP Car and lets say a K-Car or Style Wagon. All those styles bring up similar aspects of VIP Car but what makes a VIP Car “VIP” is the car itself. Taking the aspects that was started in Japan with the VIP Cars and merging them onto cars that aren't really considered VIP car platforms. You now see K-cars (Vitz, Scion, and other econo-box cars), vans (Oddessy and Previas) and many other vehicles (G35, IS300, 300Zs) with a heavy VIP Style influence. That also has trickled into our US market with the Scions xA and xB. European cars can fall within the “definition of a VIP car” but isn't as popular of a platform mainly because of an untold requirement. VIP Car has a sense of pride within the Japanese community on its luxury vehicles. However, I am now seeing shows like the Tokyo Special Import Car Show similar to Tokyo Auto Salon now being invaded by Junction Produce, Fabulous, and Auto Couture. When they build their car, they immense themselves in the culture of VIP Car… Noburi Flags, clothing, and getting EVERY accessory that the company made like lighters, teddy bears, fans, and other things.
Fitment of the wheels has always been the largest, most defining aspect that the US market uses for VIP Cars. This also brings the most controversy as well. The most heated debates on VIPStyleCars.com came from topics concerning cars and wheel fitments. We had terms like, if it ain't flush, it ain't VIP. I agree that proper fitment is the key to making a VIP Car look good, however my whole take on it… the car determines if it's a VIP car, not the wheel choice. When I had the chance to visit Japan recently, I saw VIP cars that didn't have the extreme wheel lip that we are so used to seeing here. Yes, the offsets were extremely aggressive however; they were still flat-faced wheels with no lip whatsoever. I just don't think it looks right unless the fitment was aggressive in my opinion, which is the reason I'm personally on a quest for new wheels for our GS400.
Next is the suspension, Air suspensions have become the norm. One main reason is the fact that some of these VIP cars come with a factory installed air suspension already. All that needed to be added to control this factory option was an Air controller like one from Data Systems. This gave you the chance to lower and raise your car without changing any suspension parts. This didn't bring the car down as low as we would like it to be, so then we went and looked up companies like Air Runner, Bold World, Universal Air, Canover, and many others. You had a choice of either a canister setup or the sleeve bag on a shock option. That way, you were able to just lay the frame on the car down on the ground and still be able to drive away when its time to go. Trust me, in Japan, their roads and driveways weren't pretty, how they drove these cars around on a daily basis boggles me… Coilovers are still VERY popular for the hardcore, cause they are still able to find the height that they want for driving and show purposes and costs less than half the price of air suspension set-ups. Hydraulic setups are now being touched upon by the likes of Tein to control their coilovers and be able to raise and lower the car from within the cabin. This is only available to wagons and vans from when I last looked into it, but I'm sure now, there might be more applications and companies venturing into this.
Interiors and sound systems of these cars can get very Gotti. Wood grain and screens are the first most obvious mods on the interior. You will see Wood grain trays on these cars. Screens for Navigation and of course, Video viewing is dominant. The sound systems I saw were very elaborate like the ones were see here in CES. One some cars, I saw wood grain all over the trunk to accent the subs that were stuffed in there.
Lastly, the body kits… Companies like Fabulous, Junction Produce, Wald, Veilside, Sessions, Auto Couture, Insurance, and many others offer a variety of styles to choose from. The defining factor is the size of these kits. They are never “puny” but more an elaboration of the factory lines. You can choose from the more milder, cleaner look like from Junction Produce, Admiration and Auto Couture. Then you can choose the aggressive lines like Fabulous, LA club, and Veilside. Then the EXTREME VIP Cars will come out with custom wide bodies and fender flares that will just make you take a double take more than once (even if that's not possible). Taking a cue from the wheels aspect of it, they then take the most widest wheel with the most aggressive offset possible and just bolt those onto the car with no problems.
Where does this all fit into the US market? With companies whose operations are based here are now trying to define the VIP market as Bentleys, Benzes, and other high end Euro cars, it basically leaves out the cars where it all began with for me, The Lexus GS and LS, and the Infiniti M and Q series. Yes, the US automobile market may not have the choice of Japanese luxury cars found in Japan but we make do with what we are provided. However the view of VIP Car or VIP Style Cars is being EXTREMELY skewed in the US and leaves the hardcore VIP Car enthusiast with a sour taste in its mouth. VIP Car starts with the platform first. 350Zs, G35s, Scions, Accords, and other cars are defining the VIP Style Car… VIP Style Cars was mainly a term devised to help define the difference from a VIP Car platform and a car accessorized with VIP styling. This website has room for everyone. I created this site for the reason to give these people a home to learn and educate each other. Whether you own a VIP Car or own a VIP Style Car… Yes, we will have to define our own definition of VIP Style Cars but we can't stray too far from the foundation of it all. There will be those of us who will stick to our VIP Car platforms and those who will decide that their Scion fits the platform as well. Both sides are correct in that matter. What is wrong is to decide that our VIP Car platforms are not acceptable platforms
^^ not reading that.. its pronounced vipp..
If I were to ever do a VIP car, I could only go with the first-gen Nissan Q45. They already look so low and sleek. I'd be black with this kit...I wouldn't go too wild with the bodywork.
Big wheels and sexy exhaust of course.
To japenese they pronounce VIP ... bippu. Weird.
Its not...there are a bunch of pics of this car floating around the Passat forums...no air either, just coils and sitting on the ground.
This looks like a photoshop. Look at the wheel wells.
Find me a G35 in Japan
350z, Skyline, & Skyline GT
Oh really? I'm looking at the rear wheel well and it looks like there are sharp points...photoshoppers will know what I'm talking about. It looks like they used the polygonal lasso to select the edge of the wheel well, but they spaced their selection points out, so it doesn't look perfectly round.
Oh well...
ok
lets go ahead nad get this straight
since im in japan, build a vip car currently, am part of a japan and us member based vip group ill go ahead and shed light on the Japan side of the VIP scene
If you dont own one of the following you arent VIP....only VIP style
contest it all you want, but ask any tru VIP lover and they will tell you the same, you are wrong.
every major company Insurance, Junction produce, Wald, Garson, etc etc agree with the same terms, it is universal. if you dont like it too bad, dont argue well THIS car or THIS car should be VIP
its not
thats just how it is
From Toyota, you have the Century, Celsior, Aristo, Crown, and Majesta. From Nissan you have the President, Cima, Gloria, Cedric, and the Q45
now from there there are a few super important characteristics
Wide ass tires that have such close fitment you have people asking if your wheels will hit the fender (i get it regularly around base)
second,
Bad ass aero kits
while everyones interperitation of bad ass is different there are major companies
Insurance, wald, auto coture, mode parfume etc etc etc to name a smalllll few
other than that, make the car your own
as long as its Hella low, perfect stance, great aero
your golden.
regardless here is my work in progress
it was stock when i bought it (almost stock) in june.
i have gloria front headlights on the way to fill in the gap in the headlight to bumper section adn grill to bumper section
also im like a grand away from airride, then i can paint hte whole car and ride slammed
my driveway is hella steep, and i barely clear it (i scrape everyday) so i cant go back any lower
So lets recap
VIP
VIP style
note the use of the word Style
New Style GTVIP
that is a true JDM VIP sedan
<---Click it.
lol i just posted above you crackhead lol
before...
AFTER!!!
this was before the drop
I like those wheels.
^^ still not bippu... thats just a benz with wheels.. even if its dropped.. its still a benz with wheels thats dropped, no where near VIP status. sorry. please try again.before...
AFTER!!!
this was before the drop
yeah i just realized that it isnt VIP due to the fact that its a benz...i always thought that VIP was a high end vehicle that had large rims and was slamed^^ still not bippu... thats just a benz with wheels.. even if its dropped.. its still a benz with wheels thats dropped, no where near VIP status. sorry. please try again.
It's like calling a german car rice....it can't be rice, it would be kraut
yeah but i saw all these pics of BMWs and VWs and i was like...hey why not?It's like calling a german car rice....it can't be rice, it would be kraut
my Z vip???
haha jk
This thread has made me go from thinking that some of the VIP rides look cool, to absolutely loathing them. I just think it's hilarious that "VIP" can only be these certain models of cars, otherwise it's just VIP style. Give me a break. All VIP apparently means is jdm fanboy with more money and an appreciation of slow cars.
/rant
slow cars?
My cedric makes 300 HP at .9 bar and 320 at 1.1
id hardly call that slow
Most are twin turbo
or V8s
you really need to do some more research before you go running your mouth about a style thats been around for quite a while
Fast means a lot more than acceleration to some. I don't see 20" wheels with tires 4 sizes to small being able to exactly hug the turns.
The cars being slow wasn't exactly my point, more so just the fact that somewhere there is apparently this official list of what VIP is and what isn't and all of these VIP people seem to look down on mercedes and benz's that follow the same basic theme. It's like a private clubhouse or something.
Edit: I really do think your car looks good, and that's awesome that it puts out that much power (your right I should have done some research). I was just getting peeved at the ellitist attitude that many of the people on this thread were giving off towards cars that meet all of the specifiactions of VIP, they were just a different make.
I don't really want to start a war on this subject, because well honestly you'd probably win.
Last edited by DeweyWRX; 08-27-2007 at 04:45 PM.
It's really easy to exclude a car that's entirely designed and built on another continent
Haha, touche.It's really easy to exclude a car that's entirely designed and built on another continent
Niice LOL
I photoshop a lot too and can see what you are saying. It is just the way the VW wheel wells are made, if the car is SLAMMED it doesnt seem to fit right over the wheel. Let me see if I can find more pics of that car..Oh really? I'm looking at the rear wheel well and it looks like there are sharp points...photoshoppers will know what I'm talking about. It looks like they used the polygonal lasso to select the edge of the wheel well, but they spaced their selection points out, so it doesn't look perfectly round.
EDIT: Here is another one I found:
PS: I know this car is not VIP at all...just making that clear
for those that really want to see the definition check out www.vipstylecars.com
Ahh this is tripping me up...I believe you that it's real and all, but it still looks photoshopped to me. I need to see it in person...I photoshop a lot too and can see what you are saying. It is just the way the VW wheel wells are made, if the car is SLAMMED it doesnt seem to fit right over the wheel. Let me see if I can find more pics of that car..
EDIT: Here is another one I found:
PS: I know this car is not VIP at all...just making that clear
vip IS ABOUT MAKEFast means a lot more than acceleration to some. I don't see 20" wheels with tires 4 sizes to small being able to exactly hug the turns.
The cars being slow wasn't exactly my point, more so just the fact that somewhere there is apparently this official list of what VIP is and what isn't and all of these VIP people seem to look down on mercedes and benz's that follow the same basic theme. It's like a private clubhouse or something.
Edit: I really do think your car looks good, and that's awesome that it puts out that much power (your right I should have done some research). I was just getting peeved at the ellitist attitude that many of the people on this thread were giving off towards cars that meet all of the specifiactions of VIP, they were just a different make.
I don't really want to start a war on this subject, because well honestly you'd probably win.
seroiusly
it sounds stupid as fuck and i cant tell you why
but that is what the grandfathers of VIP set it as
its not a wide definition
there are exacting standards that define a car as VIP.
and i plan on tracking my car
we use coilovers just like eveyrone else
some use air
im putting airbags on my coils
should be abetter performing setup than the springs by theory
Where I get my pics lol
understood. but others don't know a whole lot about this style of tuning. this website which you got your pics is a great resource and window to show everyone what it really is all about.
Nice finds guys. +1 to all contributors.
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their front fitment sucks
but htats the jist of it
hmmmm i wonder what he has under the hood
interfooler piping! lol
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