Anyone interested in art?

[fleishelja]

I'm not sure where to post this but I was thinking of maybe selling car drawings... heres some examples of my work...





think anyone would be interested??

[Grnblur]

Hey thats some artistic shit. is that all just with a pencil? how much would you sell them for? and what about color? +1 for some cool stuff

[fleishelja]

I honestly dont know how much. I guess what would it be worth to you? everyone has a different budget so Im sure we could work something out. I did both of those with pencil, Im working on the color part of it but its very difficult, and with no formal training whatsoever, I'm just going to have to keep on trying.

[fleishelja]

Heres another example... more concept art then portrait though... maybe I could do some bodykit design??









^^^Waiting on the owner of the car to tell me what he wants his background to be...

[TRDwasiq]

lovin that shit man good work draw a 94 celica let me knw how much u want for it

[fleishelja]

got a pic of yours?

[AnthonyF]

kool pics! i used to do that in ART a few years ago. I love drawin with pencil. Let's you get creative with shading!

[fleishelja]

ya thats my favorite part, is that theres so much detail you can put in a drawing done in pencil. other stuff, not so much

[uproot]

pretty good, pretty good.

[sleepys4]

Those drawings are great.+1.

[TRDwasiq]

there u go

[TonyRSX]

thats awsome man...

i love to draw...but the part that i cant do is shading...i always seem to mess up the drawing when i start shading...lol

any tips? =)

[fleishelja]

shading is more of a tedious process... its hard to keep good contrast too so dont get too detailed with it. just draw what you see and when in doubt, just smear the lead around on the paper!

[fleishelja]

and I think Im going to go euro on this celica... updates later.. im going out to paaaaaartaaaaaay!!!!

[jr4mny]

is300 looks damn good!!! nice!

[fleishelja]

Heres that tiburon drawing finished....

[SixSquared]

I promise I'm not trying to be a dick... but you have a lot of improving to do. You're off to a really good start, don't get me wrong, but you have a lot of work to do before you're at a level to be professionally selling your work. To draw cars really well, you have to be an extremely technical artist... you can't just "look and draw" like you can with landscapes and portraits. You need to have knowledge of layout grids, multiple perspective points, root squares of design, light sources, all of that. That's what makes the difference between ok/mediocre drawings, which is the level that yours are at currently, and the really, really good auto drawings. You also need to know how to mix media to get a successful effect. Auto drawings should start with VERY light pencil work, outlining your basic construction lines and maybe some rough contour lines. Then you should decide what media you want a majority of your drawing in. Guache is amazing, but it's really expensive and really hard to work with. Graphic markers work really nicely, but it can be hard to get color uniformity using them. Personally, I like using pastels/chalk to lay down color. If you're using graphite, you need powdered graphite in a couple of different values, and some extremely fine point erasers to cut in your highlights. Start with your base values/colors, and add and add and add... the more colors you use as you build, the deeper and more realistic your values and shading will be. Use your erasers to cut in highlights, and if you're doing a grayscale, I would recommend picking up some white charcoal pencils. That way you can draw highlights on over darker values, and you can be sure to get pure, bright white highlights. If you're using markers, start light. Remember, you can't erase markers. Start light and add in your darker values. Then use some guache or possibly white acrylic paint to bring your bright whites back out. There's a lot of books out on the subject, I suggest picking up a few of them and getting some pointers.

Like I said, not a bad start, but a far cry from being sellable. Keep up the work, though.. the only way to get better is to practice.

[Mr2raceworks]

you should do them in airbrush or screen prints, then they would more likely sell

[fleishelja]

If I had the money for all that stuff, Id probably go for it. I'm not saying im a pro by any means and thank you for your advice. so far I havent charged anyone anything. its more purely for the practice of it. Also I would think a professional would charge alot more then 100 dollars for a picture. but im going to get there one way or another. right now im still working on the dimensions and proportions. I still cant quite get it right.

[SixSquared]

hit me up on AOL if you want some pointers.. I go to Savannah College of Art and Design, studying industrial and auto design... I can help you out a bit. Most of the supplies I mentioned (except for the guache) can be had pretty cheap if you know where to look... my AOL is Makostar02

[BKgen®]

I promise I'm not trying to be a dick... but you have a lot of improving to do. You're off to a really good start, don't get me wrong, but you have a lot of work to do before you're at a level to be professionally selling your work. To draw cars really well, you have to be an extremely technical artist... you can't just "look and draw" like you can with landscapes and portraits. You need to have knowledge of layout grids, multiple perspective points, root squares of design, light sources, all of that. That's what makes the difference between ok/mediocre drawings, which is the level that yours are at currently, and the really, really good auto drawings. You also need to know how to mix media to get a successful effect. Auto drawings should start with VERY light pencil work, outlining your basic construction lines and maybe some rough contour lines. Then you should decide what media you want a majority of your drawing in. Guache is amazing, but it's really expensive and really hard to work with. Graphic markers work really nicely, but it can be hard to get color uniformity using them. Personally, I like using pastels/chalk to lay down color. If you're using graphite, you need powdered graphite in a couple of different values, and some extremely fine point erasers to cut in your highlights. Start with your base values/colors, and add and add and add... the more colors you use as you build, the deeper and more realistic your values and shading will be. Use your erasers to cut in highlights, and if you're doing a grayscale, I would recommend picking up some white charcoal pencils. That way you can draw highlights on over darker values, and you can be sure to get pure, bright white highlights. If you're using markers, start light. Remember, you can't erase markers. Start light and add in your darker values. Then use some guache or possibly white acrylic paint to bring your bright whites back out. There's a lot of books out on the subject, I suggest picking up a few of them and getting some pointers.

Like I said, not a bad start, but a far cry from being sellable. Keep up the work, though.. the only way to get better is to practice.

bob ross in the house.

[fleishelja]

holy shit... your going to my dream college man. I wanted to go so bad but I just could afford to go. I ended up going to an automotive tech school instead.. but heres the progress on another car.. I really tried to focus on the correct proportions this time. it would help to have a scanner or something to scan it in but my camera works for now I guess.



Theres still alot to fill in, like the detail on the tire tread and pavement. and importantly the entire background. but I'm pretty happy with the outcome so far.

[Ed]

i wonder whose car that is...

[fleishelja]

back from getting food and I'm done!!! whatchoo all think?

[Mr2raceworks]

SCAD, i go there too

[Mr2raceworks]

you say you dont have the money, are you dropping money down on your car to fix it up?? if so, which is more important to you?? car or making money off your art?

[fleishelja]

only reason im fixing it at the moment is because im trying to sell it. if I was keeping it, Id gladly ride through the summer with no A/C. I'm doing ok for the moment with my bic mechanical pencil and smudge stick

[fleishelja]

what do you go to scad for?

[TonyRSX]

dammnnn...how do u shade like that? a lotta finger smudging? i wish my shading could turn out like that...

[AnthonyF]

yea, good ? do you finger shade? I could never get into it. I liked trying to manipulate the shading with just the pencil

[TonyRSX]

yea, good ? do you finger shade? I could never get into it. I liked trying to manipulate the shading with just the pencil

yea i try pencil shading...but it always either comes out too dark or it jus looks like a buncha lines close together...

but then again...when i finger shade i cant seem get the small details...like my fingers shade too big an area...

[BiH1320]

yea i try pencil shading...but it always either comes out too dark or it jus looks like a buncha lines close together...

but then again...when i finger shade i cant seem get the small details...like my fingers shade too big an area...

Because you have fat fingers you fatass.

[TonyRSX]

Because you have fat fingers you fatass.

i was hoping that wasnt the case...guess i have to do drawing that are larger than normal from now on...lol time to go buy bigger paper

[fleishelja]

lol, use a smudge stick... http://www.dickblick.com/zz229/43/ thats what I use.... theres alot of different sizes... so then you dont have to use your fingers

[fleishelja]

Ok, finished another one... this ones just ok... I started when I was really tired last night and went to starbucks this morning to finish it, while I was still waking up lol. the leading s2k is way the hell too long and the shading is basically crap. but what the hell I figured id post it anyway lol

[CRACKaLACKIN]

looks frigin gorgeous! love the s2k pics! so smooth +1 if i can

[VooDooXII]

Ooooohh nice...I need to scan/upload some of mine.

[Kyle]

Pictures are looking progressively better. Keep it up.

[fleishelja]

thanks guys I'll most likely have another one posted up by tonight. I love drawing!

[AnthonyF]

the s2k is the most hotness i think. great job. I only have 2 pics i got "honored" in at my school. i'll try to take pics of 'em.