im not trying to come off as a dick.. my bad if i am but i just thought they needed more space next to each sub since they touch next to each other and the wire comes out on the side of the box not the back ... im not dissing anything here colin i have done business with u and its good work.. i just didnt feel the welcome when i walked in the shop... other than that i am am kinda happy with them love the quality on dd subs but they cost way too much to buy them for my whole car like i wanted to...yall quoted me like 700 dollars for a 9512 sub... maybe that is the regualar price