IRS garnishing paycheck

[osiriskidd]

long story short, irs is suing my gf's dad for something or another. they're garnishing his WHOLE check apprently. he owes them in the sum of $14k.

He's the only member of the family working, and this could put them on the streets. is there a way to talk them into a deal? my first thought is to go to a lawyer about it.

need. legal. advice.

[Big Baller]

He needs to get a lawyer....well actually he needed to get a lawyer a long time ago, this kind of stuff doesn't happen over night.

[osiriskidd]

He needs to get a lawyer....well actually he needed to get a lawyer a long time ago, this kind of stuff doesn't happen over night.

yup. we just saw the paper. her mom's been ignoring it for years now apparently.

[STRteg]

Damn he needs to get a lawyer or get a job paying under the table so they can't garnish his wages the irs

[ksniperfox]

the irs

why? cause this guy didnt pay taxes properly? theyre just doing their job.

reps for stupidity

[JennB]

He should have addressed this years ago. I tell people all the time, do not test the IRS, they can and will take everything they have to in order to recover what they are owed. And they are legally owed it, they aren't picking on people. If there is anyone in this country you don't want to steal from, it's them.

One option he has right now is called an Offer in Compromise. A lawyer or good accountant can put one together. He'll have to pay something, it will not just go away. It takes time though, someone else in the family may want to get a job to make ends meet. A lawyer or accountant will cost you money as well. You can try to talk to them on your own but sometimes they are not very willing to deal. The way they see it is you knew, they sent probably 50 letters telling exactly what was going to happen and it was ignored. I worked in public accounting for years, I've seen how many notices they send before actually taking action. It's not 2 or 3, it's 20, 30 or 40. Use a credit card, take out a loan, do something but either way, pay it.

As for getting a job under the table, won't always work. They will monitor bank records and go after your property if they see fit. Plus, it won't go away if you stop working.


http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...104593,00.html

He can try it himself, but he's got to be able to prove that he cannot afford to pay it as he is paying now.

[jwrape]

And they are legally owed it

No they are not "Legally" owed it. The ammendment was never passed to make it legal. The IRS just started collecting taxes and strong armed anyone who didn't pay.

They Need a Lawyer and need to get a loan to pay the IRS off.
My friends owed $10k and they had to refinance their home to get the money and pay it off. Although the IRS has no LEGAL right to make you pay Federal Taxes, they have been strong arming people for decades. IRS is a lovely thing. FairTax.org is what we need. Abolish the Illegal IRS....

[osiriskidd]

He should have addressed this years ago. I tell people all the time, do not test the IRS, they can and will take everything they have to in order to recover what they are owed. And they are legally owed it, they aren't picking on people. If there is anyone in this country you don't want to steal from, it's them.

One option he has right now is called an Offer in Compromise. A lawyer or good accountant can put one together. He'll have to pay something, it will not just go away. It takes time though, someone else in the family may want to get a job to make ends meet. A lawyer or accountant will cost you money as well. You can try to talk to them on your own but sometimes they are not very willing to deal. The way they see it is you knew, they sent probably 50 letters telling exactly what was going to happen and it was ignored. I worked in public accounting for years, I've seen how many notices they send before actually taking action. It's not 2 or 3, it's 20, 30 or 40. Use a credit card, take out a loan, do something but either way, pay it.

As for getting a job under the table, won't always work. They will monitor bank records and go after your property if they see fit. Plus, it won't go away if you stop working.


http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...104593,00.html

He can try it himself, but he's got to be able to prove that he cannot afford to pay it as he is paying now.

right on. problem was, his wife was suppose to be in charge of it as she proclaims herself the intelligent member of the family. however, all i've seen is her failing. they've put it off for almost 10 years so it seems. it's just coming back to bite them in the ass.

[JennB]

No they are not "Legally" owed it. The ammendment was never passed to make it legal. The IRS just started collecting taxes and strong armed anyone who didn't pay.

I've been an accountant for 8 years and I've heard this argument many times. Sure, some people have taken the time, effort and education to get around the system but those people are few and far between. You can say they don't legally owe it but just try and fight it. You won't get very far. The courts will side with the IRS and you will have to pay. Besides, how is that fair? I pay every penny of my taxes every year and I understand the tax system very, very well. Why should someone else not pay? Fair? No. I've only met one person in my life who had managed to beat the system and fight to now pay taxes and he was a very eccentric, genius, older man who lived on an island on the coast of SC, owned all of his property outright, worked for cash and didn't use banks and he still fought the IRS all the time.

You can fuss all you want and say that the letter of the law does not make their actions legal but keep saying that when your wages are garnished and your property is seized. It's best to just do your part and pay as you are supposed to. If you don't want to pay as much as you do, educate yourself or employ a good accountant to lessen your tax burden. I spent years behind a desk where my primary job was to lessen the tax burden of my clients, it can be done but you have to do the work and not just sit and ignore notices or say "I don't have to pay", it's not that simple.

[tony]

I have a friend that owed the IRS $40k in back taxes, and I believe they started garnishing his wages as well. He was able to call and work things out and after about 3 or 4 years he has it almost paid off. The main thing is to get a lawyer and communicate with the IRS. They will work with you if you comminucate.

[jwrape]

I've been an accountant for 8 years and I've heard this argument many times. Sure, some people have taken the time, effort and education to get around the system but those people are few and far between. You can say they don't legally owe it but just try and fight it. You won't get very far. The courts will side with the IRS and you will have to pay. Besides, how is that fair? I pay every penny of my taxes every year and I understand the tax system very, very well. Why should someone else not pay? Fair? No. I've only met one person in my life who had managed to beat the system and fight to now pay taxes and he was a very eccentric, genius, older man who lived on an island on the coast of SC, owned all of his property outright, worked for cash and didn't use banks and he still fought the IRS all the time.

You can fuss all you want and say that the letter of the law does not make their actions legal but keep saying that when your wages are garnished and your property is seized. It's best to just do your part and pay as you are supposed to. If you don't want to pay as much as you do, educate yourself or employ a good accountant to lessen your tax burden. I spent years behind a desk where my primary job was to lessen the tax burden of my clients, it can be done but you have to do the work and not just sit and ignore notices or say "I don't have to pay", it's not that simple.

Oh no, you mis-understood me. I pay my taxes because I KNOW you cannot fight it. Like i said, they will strong arm you into paying and I would never put my family nor myself through a useless fight. BUT I'm merley stating it is not law and therefore illegal but there are many things that the government does that is illegal, there is usually not much a single person or a minority can do about it. In that respect the Fair Tax Act is gaining supporters all the time and COULD possibly make it with enough support in the Senate and Congresss. Justto be clear, the FairTax Act is not topay no taxes, it's to not pay income tax but to pay sales tax instead. So in affect you get almost your entire pay check and you only pay taxes on the things you buy instead of paying taxes on your hardwork.
I beleive there is a VERy good Google video on it that explains it and also illustrates the ammendment that was attempted to be passed and didn't. It was produced by a well known movie producer.

I found it: It's a Documentary by Arron Russo here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...80303867390173
Check it out, it is about 2 hours long but very interesting andmakes very good points.
I watched it a couple years back when i first even heard about the FairTax.org site and was just investigating what it was after i saw it on a bumper sticker. Back then it was not nearly as talked about or as popular as it is today. It's agood thing to watch whether you beleive in it or not.

[JennB]

I'm well aware of the Fair Tax. I've been in accounting for a long time, I heard about it years ago. I have my reasons for not supporting it but I'm not going to turn this thread into an argument about the "Fair" Tax.

[jwrape]

Ok,fair enough. not everyone agrees. I'm sure you have good reasons.

[tony]

C'mon, did it require 4 posts in older threads?

[jwrape]

C'mon, did it require 4 posts in older threads?

Yea, i want to inspire thought..

[osiriskidd]

more info.

the social security # stated in the paper is not his. the original amount he owed was only near $1300-1500.