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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Yes, because we know more about McCain then we don't about her.


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    Then you don't hold her to the same standard? Even though at the end of the day they are both human right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Then you don't hold her to the same standard? Even though at the end of the day they are both human right?
    That's what i meant. I DONT.

    How can you hold her to the same standard? She's not the one running for office. If anything, he opinions are making me stay further away from Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    That's what i meant. I DONT.

    How can you hold her to the same standard? She's not the on running for office. If anything, he opinions are making me stay further away from Obama.
    She's not running for office but you hold her to a higher standard? Sounds perfectly logical to me..

    He leaves his wife when he comes back to the U.S after she has been in an accident and waited on his ass for 6 years, marries a younger woman a month after his divorce is final who.. to fuel her addiction to pain killers stole from a non profit organization but Michelle Obama is the evil princeton grad?

    I got the answer I was looking for here, another reason why I have lost respect for the right. Rather than admit wrong and just say there is an unfair double standard you'd rather defend and dig an even deeper hole of nonsense.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    She's not running for office but you hold her to a higher standard? Sounds perfectly logical to me..

    He leaves his wife when he comes back to the U.S after she has been in an accident and waited on his ass for 6 years, marries a younger woman a month after his divorce is final who.. to fuel her addiction to pain killers stole from a non profit organization but Michelle Obama is the evil princeton grad?

    I got the answer I was looking for here, another reason why I have lost respect for the right. Rather than admit wrong and just say there is an unfair double standard you'd rather defend and dig an even deeper hole of nonsense.

    Thanks


    I honestly do not give a damn what Michelle has to say, but it obviously rubs off on the Mr. at some point and time, it has to when you live together.





    And i like the condescending thankyou at the end, as if i care to win you over. My mind is set and i love it when dems try and speak nonsense to me about Obama.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    I honestly do not give a damn what Michelle has to say, but it obviously rubs off on the Mr. at some point and time, it has to when you live together.





    And i like the condescending thankyou at the end, as if i care to win you over. My mind is set and i love it when dems try and speak nonsense to me about Obama.




    Wasn't looking to earn your vote for McCain, but enjoy the taxes
    I don't make over $250k so I surely will enjoy the lower taxes.

    Its not me being condescending but rather frustration, not even a year ago I considered myself republican and totally agreed with the views of the right but as I started reading.. researching and became more educated my position changed. So now when I try to look for logic in what is considered conservative views I am becoming very disappointed.

    This election has shined a light on the GOP like never before and its become apparent that the intentions are to win at any cost, and though I may be wrong I do take it personal when it seems like the black candidate has to be flawless while the white one can get away with any and everything and still get praised for it.

    The Obama's have had a microscope on their ass through this whole election but when McCain does the EXACT same thing or worse he's a hero. Call a spade a spade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I don't make over $250k so I surely will enjoy the lower taxes.

    Its not me being condescending but rather frustration, not even a year ago I considered myself republican and totally agreed with the views of the right but as I started reading.. researching and became more educated my position changed. So now when I try to look for logic in what is considered conservative views I am becoming very disappointed.

    This election has shined a light on the GOP like never before and its become apparent that the intentions are to win at any cost, and though I may be wrong I do take it personal when it seems like the black candidate has to be flawless while the white one can get away with any and everything and still get praised for it.

    The Obama's have had a microscope on their ass through this whole election but when McCain does the EXACT same thing or worse he's a hero. Call a spade a spade.



    I think people overestimate the amount of racism today, I really don't care if you are black.




    Until black people realize that any educated white person doesn't care if you are black and a presidential candidate, then they will never EARN those votes. It just alienates the voters when people go on the air talking about it being a race issue.



    to break the boundary the candidate has to play on an even playing field and not think the world is out to get him.



    i have tried to argue with people of ethnicity who are to put it bluntly lower or lower middle class and they pull the card on me that i don't want Obama because he's black. That usually ends any kind of educated argument i will have with a person at that point and furthermore gets me away from supporting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    I think people overestimate the amount of racism today, I really don't care if you are black.




    Until black people realize that any educated white person doesn't care if you are black and a presidential candidate, then they will never EARN those votes. It just alienates the voters when people go on the air talking about it being a race issue.



    to break the boundary the candidate has to play on an even playing field and not think the world is out to get him.



    i have tried to argue with people of ethnicity who are to put it bluntly lower or lower middle class and they pull the card on me that i don't want Obama because he's black. That usually ends any kind of educated argument i will have with a person at that point and furthermore gets me away from supporting him.
    Anyone who knows me personally knows race does not matter to me, I'm the last person to call out racism.. I'm not even saying THIS is racism but ray charles can see that Obama has had to be perfect, catching hell for things that don't even come out of his mouth and I believe the color of his skin one major reason.

    Race card is played when someone tries to make up for their shortcomings.. all I'm saying is mysteriously Barack and his wife is held to this super high standard (Surely higher than their opponents as we have seen in this thread) and there seems to be no explanation for why. When I look for the differences between Obama and his opponents one seems to always stand out..

    You'd be lying to yourself to say race has not played a part in this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    I think people overestimate the amount of racism today, I really don't care if you are black.
    If, I'm taking this out of context, then let be the first to apologize, but are you a minority?

    To say that Racism is of all things, overestimated, I have to strong disagree with that statement. Ask any Hispanic, let alone black person, if racism is overestimate and they'll disagree with you. Racism is alive, granted it's not the sixites where it was out in the open but to think that it's just misunderstanding is a joke.

    I will admit, listening to the radio I do shake my head especially when listening to V103.3 or Hot 107.9 but yet I listen to Rock100 and it's the same thing on the other side of specturm.

    Granted, I plan on voting on the guy who will benefit me the most because it's my vote. I'm liberal about some sh!t and I'm conservative about some sh!t. IMO, I do think that Barack and Michelle are held to a different standard in terms of speech and like it was said earlier...that's politics for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony

    that the intentions are to win at any cost, and though I may be wrong I do take it personal when it seems like the black candidate has to be flawless while the white one can get away with any and everything and still get praised for it.

    The Obama's have had a microscope on their ass through this whole election but when McCain does the EXACT same thing or worse he's a hero. Call a spade a spade.
    Tony i think this is the first time ive ever seen you bring up race.

    Im not going to comment much, but i agree with EJ25 and Lucky Dawg.

    We all have our opinions, but i have one question to ask you tony...

    You are joining the military right? you can honestly sit here an say YOU will be better off with OBAMA than MCAin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD

    You are joining the military right? you can honestly sit here an say YOU will be better off with OBAMA than MCAin?

    Honestly I don't know.. I do think about that and I can't say how I feel about Obama while participating in the military. I do know that once I get in the process I probably wont talk politics any more for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    She's not running for office but you hold her to a higher standard? Sounds perfectly logical to me..

    He leaves his wife when he comes back to the U.S after she has been in an accident and waited on his ass for 6 years, marries a younger woman a month after his divorce is final who.. to fuel her addiction to pain killers stole from a non profit organization but Michelle Obama is the evil princeton grad?

    I got the answer I was looking for here, another reason why I have lost respect for the right. Rather than admit wrong and just say there is an unfair double standard you'd rather defend and dig an even deeper hole of nonsense.

    Thanks
    Since you quoted me i'll explain, just like they dont seem to add up for you, they don't add up for me.

    Really, i could care less about Michele because the "hole" is the plan Obama has made that i can't agree with.

    I'm fully about politics that make sense to me.

    This whole deal with Obama's wife is just a ridiculous thing that lets Dan Abrams keep his job.

    I lost my faith in Obama a long time ago......can you really blame me for taking a blind eye to Obama's wife when she says things like this.

    Again, if Obama realizes that America has middle class people along with poor people, then i'll consider Michelle's words more seriously.

    I cant even go to say im with the "right", i just look at this with how it affects me.

    Tony, if your main concern with the next election is our "double standard for the pres' wife, i worry for you.

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