u take 4 or 5 grand to any of these auctions. u can easily drive home a car that wil sale for 6-8. ive done it a many of times. i have one now i just got ............. 95 civic coupe with a few mods. i fixed a few dents and am going to sale it for 3k and make a "small" gain. i seen an 03 navigator go for 7k just last week