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    Default If you had $80,000 to start a business.....

    What would it be? You have to use all the money to start a profitable business, this must cover equipment, renting a storefront, inventory if needed, etc.
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    An automotive performance shop ... or a strip club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    What would it be? You have to use all the money to start a profitable business, this must cover equipment, renting a storefront, inventory if needed, etc.
    If 80k was enough, I might open up a Subway. There are other types of stores that I'd rather open, but as far as something that I think would make money, I'd open up a Subway.

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    Performance shops dont make any money.

    No strip clubs, sorry, an 80k wouldnt cover a strip club.

    Im thinking a Self Serve Car wash, low maintanence, right location, low overhead
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    Performance shops dont make any money.

    No strip clubs, sorry, an 80k wouldnt cover a strip club.

    Im thinking a Self Serve Car wash, low maintanence, right location, low overhead
    Doubt a self serve carwash could be started for 80k. Almost have to buy the land and property for the building since it is specialty building. Most likely a 250k investment, but the money is pretty steady(depending on the location) just not huge amounts.

    Leasing a building for a strip club, hiring the help, and outfitting the building might be possible for 80k but the legal bill would be much more because of the numerous ramifications and public outcry about another adult oriented venue. Porn store would be more realistic but would still have legal trouble. Once you get into these businesses you would be laughing all the way to the bank; they have huge profit margins if run correctly in almost any location.

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    A BANANA STAND! like the Bluth's

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    i would start a storage units, good location will get great money.

    buddy i work with opened one for 65k, second month every unit was rented with at least a 3 month contract.

    and a car wash like you said MR. KIDD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clegger
    A BANANA STAND! like the Bluth's
    "Remember, Michael. There's always money in the banana stand."
    I would start an Arcade. It's been my dream for a long time.

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    Fuck it, i would buy drugs in bulk and sell it....
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    franchising would be less risky

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv
    franchising would be less risky
    Franchising kills profit margins though. A less risky investment but more costly upfront and in the long run.

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    if i have a good profitable idea, why would i tell you? so you can yoink it..

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    Race track to drag on and/or drift on. Or... Badass huge offroading park, mud, rocks, jumps, hill climbs. Set it up in kennesaw/canton. Make it where you could bring 4 wheelers, dirt bikes. Pay per vehicle or per person. I would make money. Have a garage there with high prices to fix shit on the spot or pay to use the shop by the hour. Gas station at the front for gas and snacks. T shirts, all that shit. I guarentee it would make money.
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    The performance shop life is a struggle, it's kinda like racing...to make a fortune you have to start with an even bigger fortune. Tremendous overhead, insurance, etc. and you've seen and heard on IA alone some of the things shop owners and manageers have to deal with on a day to day basis...it's not pretty.

    With $80k i'd say a Subway would be a struggle...with that not being you're sole job you'll have to pay for a manager & employees, etc. plus the lease and initial buildout, franchise fee's, typical operating costs and overhead, etc. Not saying it's not possible but may want a LLP setup with a couple partners (even though thats a wholeeee new ballgame of issues and potential problems)

    The car wash is good...i can't help to think about the movie car wash right now and the storage building idea is great too (with much lower operating cost) extremely good profit margin but intial cost is high, property and buildout, etc. No way a good location can be done for that amount of money...so back to the partnership.

    I have a business planned out for 1/10th of that (minus the vehicle i would LIKE to have for it) with low overhead and operating costs with a great return...i've just been taking my time collecting that $5-8k worth of equipment i need. No, it's not photography either...but the photography thing isn't helping achieve this goal, grrr...priorities, those damn priorities.



    Quote Originally Posted by Blitanicle99
    Race track to drag on and/or drift on. Or... Badass huge offroading park, mud, rocks, jumps, hill climbs. Set it up in kennesaw/canton. Make it where you could bring 4 wheelers, dirt bikes. Pay per vehicle or per person. I would make money. Have a garage there with high prices to fix shit on the spot or pay to use the shop by the hour. Gas station at the front for gas and snacks. T shirts, all that shit. I guarentee it would make money.
    $80k wouldn't even pay for the insurance

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    I have a friend who started 5 years ago with 5k and a lawnmower, now he makes @ 200k year and he drives around in a jacked up F250 inspecting jobsites for quotes, and checked on his toys which are being built/modded around Atlanta.

    I also know a guy who started delivering wheels and tires around Atlanta... he's still doing this plus some. Currier Service makes @125k to 175k yearly

    automotive sucks... unless you can sit on a dyno all day, overbooked, and tune cars.

    Subway doesn't make that much, that's why most of the owners have 4 or 5 stores. All the really busy stores are corp. I use to work for Singleton Food Services, who owns 7 Subway stores.

    Car wash isn't too bad of an idea... this local family owns a nice car wash right off the highway. Also owns a few buildings on the same property which are rented. (one of them is Subway & even Cingular). They also own a workout studio and the rooms are rented out to yoga classes, dance classes, cheerleader squads, and even family reunions. They are doing well... all the kids are in college and each drive a 'Benz.

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    There was a thread I read on a guy just starting up a carwash and he spent around hundreds of thousands when everything was said and done.

    If it were me, I'd buy some GOOG when it gets down to the low 400's.
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    Body Shop

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    $80k......... do like I did start a roofing business. Someone's always gonna need a roof done. Hell right at $5k is enuff to start with, and that covers everything you need(besides the help)

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    I would recommend franchising. But as a sole proprietorship, I recomment saving more and opening a liquor shop. The most expensive part would be the inventory. Car wash is also a great idea, anything that is and will be in demand is a good idea.

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    Some kind of subscription service or something. Take WoW for example, 8 million subscribers paying $14/month = assload of money.

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    all car related: shops, tracks, etc ... don't make enough money for the investment.

    event promotions is where it is at... large car events, club events, etc... w/ the right connections you can easily turn the 80k investment into 120k the first year; which isn't bad b/c most businesses take on huge debt/losses their first years in business.

    mike you can buy IA and TFS for way cheaper then 80k - lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    mike you can buy IA and TFS for way cheaper then 80k - lol
    I don't mean to insult you in any way, but has IA been a good investment? Have you seen good returns in the money that you've put into it?

    I'm trying to think what kind of business that I could start up for 80k and still have a steady income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magius
    I don't mean to insult you in any way, but has IA been a good investment? Have you seen good returns in the money that you've put into it?

    I'm trying to think what kind of business that I could start up for 80k and still have a steady income.
    well considering total cost are under 2000$ a year ... um i would say it has been profitable... now not in the sense we spend our time; but we dont' do this full time .... look at it this way an initial 9$ investment has made a site worth more then 20k

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    well considering total cost are under 2000$ a year ... um i would say it has been profitable... now not in the sense we spend our time; but we dont' do this full time .... look at it this way an initial 9$ investment has made a site worth more then 20k
    It's basically a non-profit business too...of course there is some but you wouldn't be disclosing the overhead/cost if it was much It's more of bring the community together and it's done a fine job of that...i can't tell you how many time's i've been lai...oh, nm hahaha! you get the idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    It's basically a non-profit business too...of course there is some but you wouldn't be disclosing the overhead/cost if it was much It's more of bring the community together and it's done a fine job of that...i can't tell you how many time's i've been lai...oh, nm hahaha! you get the idea
    its a non profit business to the world as far as we don't disclose everything, but truely the overhead/cost for the site alone are under 2000$ a year. w/ an initial cost of 9$ to start the site it is easily worth 20k or more. how it generates money is a different scope.... how do you put a value on trade outs, friendships, etc..? you can't i know for a fact we have gotten 10k's in trade outs b/c of who we are and what we do... but this site can easily generate money and does so already.

    julio/i can walk away from updating anything on the site and just run the forum and still do quite well w/ basically no hands on

    but we have spent 10k's over the years in this scene b/c we do love it and what it has given back to us.

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    HAHA

    im really leaning towards this car wash with like a private parking lot for the kills forum guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
    HAHA

    im really leaning towards this car wash with like a private parking lot for the kills forum guys

    Remember a car wash is seasonal. There will be many days when you wont be doing anything or making any money plus for 80k, you cant get much. If you are trying to buy a place, own the land and have all of the bays with maybe a car wash at the end, that will cost you about 200k at the minimum. You can put 80k down but when I was looking, it was an 200-420k investment.

    I have an idea that would make you money. Goto China or Korea and meet with someone and become a US distributor for that product. Perhaps a speaker line, tire line or audio line. This is how many of companies got their start in the US. Just an idea.

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    Loan shark.

    Automated car washes (with the drive thru wash) cost a lot of money to start up. The machines alone cost more than $80,000.00. Not to mention all of the environmental codes and regulations to follow with disposing of all the soapy water, hazardous liquids, etc. Lawyers to write up disclaimers for damage to property/vehicles, workers comp, overhead (rent/lease/own property, salary, electricity, water bill, soaps/chemicals), great property location and insurance.

    It's not as cut and dry as some people think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARFNSX
    I have an idea that would make you money. Goto China or Korea and meet with someone and become a US distributor for that product. Perhaps a speaker line, tire line or audio line. This is how many of companies got their start in the US. Just an idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARFNSX
    Remember a car wash is seasonal. There will be many days when you wont be doing anything or making any money plus for 80k, you cant get much. If you are trying to buy a place, own the land and have all of the bays with maybe a car wash at the end, that will cost you about 200k at the minimum. You can put 80k down but when I was looking, it was an 200-420k investment.
    exactly....but add another $250k and you can offer emmisions testing and year round hand car washes.

    I looked into mobil auto detail and even minor autotive repair/maintainence, get in with a couple office buildings for $20-25 just for a handwash and vacuum to well over $100-200 for a full detail. Add on an oil change for $20-30 and they don't have to take the time to do it themselves ;-)


    Quote Originally Posted by ARFNSX
    I have an idea that would make you money. Goto China or Korea and meet with someone and become a US distributor for that product. Perhaps a speaker line, tire line or audio line. This is how many of companies got their start in the US. Just an idea.
    That's sortof like another i've been interested in: we know what people are willing to pay for rare, uncommon, and quality car parts and we all know how much you can save buying it from across the pond. A container can be shipped for $1200 full of those parts,you could go over spending a week or two hand selecting everything, with a return of at least double the investment....do it again and again.

    $1,000 for flight roundtrip, shipping $800-1200, depending on size, plus dock fees (the crane man gets a tip). Then you have to have a truck to pickup and deliver container. Three or 4 front clips for next to nothing, several sets of wheels and random and misc. parts, etc... With someone already owning a shop and already having the customer base built i personally think it's stupid not to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARFNSX
    Remember a car wash is seasonal. There will be many days when you wont be doing anything or making any money plus for 80k, you cant get much. If you are trying to buy a place, own the land and have all of the bays with maybe a car wash at the end, that will cost you about 200k at the minimum. You can put 80k down but when I was looking, it was an 200-420k investment.

    I have an idea that would make you money. Goto China or Korea and meet with someone and become a US distributor for that product. Perhaps a speaker line, tire line or audio line. This is how many of companies got their start in the US. Just an idea.
    okay I need to see where ya'll are coming up with this 200k to 420 investment for a carwash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHAT_LAG
    okay I need to see where ya'll are coming up with this 200k to 420 investment for a carwash.
    The machines, maintenace, property, insurance and overhead.

    The machines are what cost the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloveboost
    The machines, maintenace, property, insurance and overhead.

    The machines are what cost the most.
    You people have to go throught the right channels it not that much. I own a carwash now, have been for the last four years. I priced self serve and am still thinking about doing that. equipment and all 120k. Your highest cost of ovehead is your water.

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    I would take that 80,000 and get 2 other partners to get another 70,000 and open up a Hooters ... on the beach

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leisa
    I would take that 80,000 and get 2 other partners to get another 70,000 and open up a Hooters ... on the beach
    You would need more money than that and it is hard to get a franchise. Need like 10 years of experience with franchises and a lot of other qualifications

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    Quote Originally Posted by keevo54
    You would need more money than that and it is hard to get a franchise. Need like 10 years of experience with franchises and a lot of other qualifications
    That depends on the franchise, and also if you have the money, it takes less time.

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    The problem is, theres a shit ton of car wash places, so what are you going to do to standout? Sure a parking lot for the kills forum would attract people to your business, but that is a limited amount, what about the rest of the general populace?

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    Restaurant exhuast cleaning. Its dirty, wet, and mostly night work. My old boss had several cleaning crews (I did maintenance and repair) each crew did 3 jobs a night and averaged $200-$300 per job

    You need

    Truck with a ladder rack
    extension ladder
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    trailer with a steam cleaner and long enough hoses to reach the roof
    degreaser and a sprayer
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    i say move to a heavily white area and open a tanning bed place

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    you could do hardcore porno. I volunteer to be an actor as long as you find some hot girls

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