03 cobra vs. S2k who would handle better around a track.

[sprix!]

Again, it isn't really a valid comparison to toss a modified car against a stock car and declare one the winner. I don't doubt that what you post could happen as far as a mod'd NA running closely with an APx, but I could toss money into a Civic, Mazda 3, Saturn Ion, etc and get it to do the same thing.

[DieselNuts]

I could toss money into a Civic, Mazda 3, Saturn Ion, etc and get it to do the same thing.

FWD FTL

[xxbckiexx]

not sure if this was directed to me but if so maybe you should re read my post as i sat nuetral in my point so not really getting your "pride" comment?

underpowered honda? is there a faster stock honda?

120hp? im totally confused...

if not directed to me then my bad for thinking possibly but still confused either way lol!

towards the op. i didn't read your posts.

[On_Her_Face]

Corvette blows both out of the water.

[xxbckiexx]

Corvette blows both out of the water.

ill stick with my z06. ty.

[Homer Simpson]

I voted s2k for obvious reasons.

I don't know much about Cobra's except that they sound good, look good, and have terrible interiors.

[Catnip]

They are two completely different kinds of cars, built for completely different reasons. This is like comparing an apple to an orange here.

I voted S2000 because I used to have one and it was very fast (200 pounds reduced, 400HP/285TQ) And I've ridden in Mustangs and they feel like you're riding in a boat (I just like small, nimble cars better but it's my personal choice).

You think comparing an S2000 and comparing a Terminator is apples and oranges, but you want to compare a gutted 400hp S2000 to what I'm guessing are stock non-terminator mustangs?

While paper racing is silly, the 130-ish TQ that a stock s2000 will put down is masked by the fact that it has a 4.10 final drive. Gearing multiplies TQ so it might sound low but if kept in vtec throughout the gears the car is much quicker than it would seem.

The Cobra has a 3.55 with a 6 speed, it's not hurting gear wise.

And sadly, I agree... and facts agree with xxbckiexx. Z06 > S2000/cobra

[crxsiguy]

i think it should be 03 cobra vs NSX, but as we all know NSX > ALL!

[atlxpat]

wrx?

lol but damn i never knew 03-04 cobras had IRS

[DieselNuts]

I voted s2k for obvious reasons.

I don't know much about Cobra's except that they sound good, look good, and have terrible interiors.

with a statement like that, its obvious you're just a fanboy

as we all know NSX > ALL!

not so much...

[crxsiguy]

not so much...

NSX>C6 Z06

[nreggie454]

NSX>C6 Z06

LOL.

[DieselNuts]

NSX>C6 Z06

Do you seriously believe this?

[crxsiguy]

Do you seriously believe this?

I like my life a 1/4 mile at a time

[Catnip]

I like my life a 1/4 mile at a time

And for those 14 seconds or less

[crxsiguy]

And for those 14 seconds or more

fixed that for ya

[SicStang03]

LOL

[JITB]

its called a TERMINATOR you cant fuck with that

[S II K]

I voted s2k


If you honestly think a ford mustang can out handle an s2000 please with all due respect slap your fucking face. and for those that think s2ks and miatas are a better comparison with alll due respect slap your fucking face as well. you cant compare them sotck for stock they are waaaaaay more underpowered than a s2000. even if they both had every single bolt on the s2000 would walk a miata.\


The End.

[Catnip]

its called a TERMINATOR you cant fuck with that

Iknorite?

[HypnoToad]

this thread has huge LOLs

[Catnip]

Took a CR to beat the Cobra

http://www.torque.tv/index.php?_page...Bvc3RfaWQ9Mjk=

[S II K]

Took a CR to beat the Cobra

http://www.torque.tv/index.php?_page...Bvc3RfaWQ9Mjk=

Took a cobra to somewhat hang with a little 4 cylinder underpowered honda.

if youre bothered that a cr beat the cobra then put a gt vs a regular s2000 or a v6 mustang. cobras are a higher end mustang and cr is a "higher end" s2000. im sorry i honestly cant believe you think a mustang handles better.

[S2KJD]

:crickets churping:

[Catnip]

Took a cobra to somewhat hang with a little 4 cylinder underpowered honda.

if youre bothered that a cr beat the cobra then put a gt vs a regular s2000 or a v6 mustang. cobras are a higher end mustang and cr is a "higher end" s2000. im sorry i honestly cant believe you think a mustang handles better.

No, it's the fact it took the "higher end" version of a car that was built to handle, to beat a the, lets call it the "handling package", version of a car that was never intended to handle well.

If that makes sense.

[S2KJD]

No, it's the fact it took the "higher end" version of a car that was built to handle, to beat a the, lets call it the "handling package", version of a car that was never intended to handle well.

If that makes sense.

it doesnt cause THROUGHOUT this thread there are ravs about how the cobra 03-04 is setup to handle better so...

and i agree let a v6 mustang and ap1 or ap2 race to be more fair then against the cobra. a CR should be the least of your worries to unfair on saying "higher end" lol!

as of now the writing is on the wall so now we need to find more times on other tracks...


good find by the way!

[HypnoToad]

someone take a cobra and s2k to road atlanta and see what happens.......lol

[S2KJD]

not sure imho as depending on the track i think either way but i do like how both sides are so confident(more so the cobra fans) but yet no one is showing straight evidence of a s2k vs cobra actually going head to head lol!

and now we do! now there has to be more out there so let the #'s do the talking as i said back on page 2 :boobies:

Took a CR to beat the Cobra

http://www.torque.tv/index.php?_page...Bvc3RfaWQ9Mjk=

+1 rep

[Catnip]

it doesnt cause THROUGHOUT this thread there are ravs about how the cobra 03-04 is setup to handle better so...

And it handles amazing for a big, heavy muscle car. You can't argue that, with it being only 2 seconds behind the, and I quote "race ready S2000."

and i agree let a GT mustang and ap1 or ap2 race to be more fair then against the cobra. a CR should be the least of your worries to unfair on saying "higher end" lol!

The mustang GT and mustang cobra (99-04) are two different cars. Like I said, the cobra is the handling package of a car that wasn't really meant to handle good. So to take the GT and put it up against a S2000 isn't fair, straight line or "twisties."

as of now the writing is on the wall so now we need to find more times on other tracks...


good find by the way!

I agree, finding more times for different tracks would be fair.

Thanks

[Catnip]

I'm really waiting for someone to call me a Cobra nutswinger...

[S2KJD]

someone take a cobra and s2k to road atlanta and see what happens.......lol

yes there are tons of tracks all with advantages as well as disadvantages to both cars and road atlanta would favor the cobra do to more straights. thats one track out of many i can think of dude...

[S2KJD]

The mustang GT and mustang cobra (99-04) are two different cars. Like I said, the cobra is the handling package of a car that wasn't really meant to handle good. So to take the GT and put it up against a S2000 isn't fair, straight line or "twisties."



I agree, finding more times for different tracks would be fair.

Thanks

i edited after you already quoted me as i meant to say v6 since i was trying to quote s ii k's comment...

[Catnip]

i edited after you already quoted me as i meant to say v6 since i was trying to quote s ii k's comment...

The V6 Mustang isn't even a sports car.

[HypnoToad]

yes there are tons of tracks all with advantages as well as disadvantages to both cars and road atlanta would favor the cobra do to more straights. thats one track out of many i can think of dude...

well yea,the s2k is like a miata in the fact it is a pure handling sports car...while something like a corvette is the full package.

the cobra is a nice handling bump from the standard GT.

[HypnoToad]

The V6 Mustang isn't even a sports car.

a V8 isnt either in my book,its a sports coupe or pony car,like the fbodies

[Catnip]

a V8 isnt either in my book,its a sports coupe or pony car,like the fbodies

Not to sound like the cocky F-body owner, but I consider the f-body a muscle car. Some seem to handle AIGHT (I've seen a few stock ones RAPE in solo runs), but I totally see them as straight line cars. The mustang is, like you said, the pony car... or the mucle car for bisexual/bicurious males.

I just don't see how someone would even think to put a V6 mustang in any competition with anything. LOL

[HypnoToad]

Not to sound like the cocky F-body owner, but I consider the f-body a muscle car. Some seem to handle AIGHT (I've seen a few stock ones RAPE in solo runs), but I totally see them as straight line cars. The mustang is, like you said, the pony car... or the mucle car for bisexual/bicurious males.

I just don't see how someone would even think to put a V6 mustang in any competition with anything. LOL

lol,o Fbodies kill mustang in handling.....i know 3rd gens were on par with C4s at the time,which was a pretty big thing.

but without mustang we wouldnt have fbody....and they both come with non-V8 powerplants...which basicly makes it into different cars......i think of a sports car as a stand alone..one model car.

[Stormhammer]

Took a CR to beat the SVT Cobra

http://www.torque.tv/index.php?_page...Bvc3RfaWQ9Mjk=

fixed lol


Also - here's the large large difference.

Cobra isn't exactly meant to be a high revving engine, and they're torque monsters - so they have great bottom end. Especially with that Eaton supercharger. Also, it has a heavier nose ( 57/43 weight ratio ) whilst the S2000 has a 49/51 weight ratio. Paired with the torque band of the engine and how high they can rev, and S2000 will have a faster entry and exit speed in a corner than a Cobra.

It's unfair to state though without a course. If a course has any number of long straights, sooner or later the Cobra will catch up. That's just horsepower facts for you. If it's a ridiculously curvy course, the S2000 will rape it being that it'll be able to stay in its power band a lot easier.

In other words, this thread is fucking retarded.

[afwfjustin]

You've never ridden in a 03/04 cobra

You are correct! I don't doubt that they are better handling cars; I was just saying that most Mustangs I've ridden in (GTs and V6s from same body style) felt like donkey shit when they were turning.

I think my previous post wins the entire thread. It's worded poorly. If we're talking about which car is more nimble and a better "handling" car, it's the S2000. If we're talking about which car is faster at a track, it's the Cobra. But saying which car is better handling at a track? There are way too many different variables to really give an answer to that - and that's why we're still debating this crap

And I think that my old S2000 would destroy a Cobra even on a track - and that's with it running only on the wastegate spring and untuned for higher boost

[afwfjustin]

In other words, this thread is fucking retarded.

Amen, sista