got my brakes done!

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Originally Posted by hondabuilder

you need to understand that the brakes you took off the car were capable of locking up the tires, meaning they were able of providing more brake torque than the tires can actually make use of. THEREFORE, the big brake kit does exactly what speedminded said, resists fade, and dissapates heat better. it does not "brake better"

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You need to understand that my car also does not have the stock 16's it came from factory with. Ever since I put my new and HEAVY 18's on my braking has dramatically decreased. WHen you increase unsprung weight acceleration and braking decrease. But now with my new setup, my car is capable of locking up the wheels...I tested it yesterday :D So yes you are now right that my brake can apply more braking torque that my tires can handle.

But my car still brakes better. If I would've braked my car last week from 60-0 it would've taken like 11 seconds(rough estimate) and say x amount of feet, now I guarantee it I would brake from 60-0 SUBSTANTIALLY faster as well as in a shorter distance. I call that braking better...

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Originally Posted by speedminded

Hate to tell everyone that bigger brakes DO NOT brake better, period. it's all in your head. I've seen countless times where people have said the car braked better when they put on slotted/drilled rotors, etc. Do you know want to know the real secret to the better braking? I bet you changed that nasty ass brake fluid when you put your new brakes on didn't you? There's your secret ;)

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1) Slotted/cross drilled rortors should not be on cars for street driven appllications...a smooth rotor would be better.

2) Of course I bled my brakes. ButI also bled my brakes about 3 months ago when I had to install a new RR brake caliper(piston froze). And a year before that replaced the LR brake caliper and bled the brakes as well. And changing the fluid did not make a difference, especially since all the fluids in my car are constantly mantained. So no, changing the brake fluid is not the reason why my car now brakes better. I also used the same brake fluid too, so that variable has stayed the same. The only variable that has changed in this last week are the newer calipers, rotors, and pads. So it must be logically assumed that the reason for better braking should be attributed to this and only this. Not tires. Not brake fluid. Not korea testing nuclear bombs. k pumpkin?

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Originally Posted by D3UC3S

How so..

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By agreeing that bigger brakes stop better and insinuating the only reason to need bigger brakes is when you have more power.

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Originally Posted by NissanTun3r

You need to understand that my car also does not have the stock 16's it came from factory with. Ever since I put my new and HEAVY 18's on my braking has dramatically decreased. WHen you increase unsprung weight acceleration and braking decrease. But now with my new setup, my car is capable of locking up the wheels...I tested it yesterday :D So yes you are now right that my brake can apply more braking torque that my tires can handle.

But my car still brakes better. If I would've braked my car last week from 60-0 it would've taken like 11 seconds(rough estimate) and say x amount of feet, now I guarantee it I would brake from 60-0 SUBSTANTIALLY faster as well as in a shorter distance. I call that braking better...

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Acceleration and braking decrease whenever weight is added anywhere. The reason larger wheels produce less power on a dyno is because it's adding weight and stress to the drive train. If your new wheels weigh a total of 100lbs more than the old ones you could add that same weight to the drive shaft or axles and have the same effect heavier wheels would.

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Originally Posted by NissanTun3r

1) Slotted/cross drilled rortors should not be on cars for street driven appllications...a smooth rotor would be better.

2) Of course I bled my brakes. ButI also bled my brakes about 3 months ago when I had to install a new RR brake caliper(piston froze). And a year before that replaced the LR brake caliper and bled the brakes as well. And changing the fluid did not make a difference, especially since all the fluids in my car are constantly mantained. So no, changing the brake fluid is not the reason why my car now brakes better. I also used the same brake fluid too, so that variable has stayed the same. The only variable that has changed in this last week are the newer calipers, rotors, and pads. So it must be logically assumed that the reason for better braking should be attributed to this and only this. Not tires. Not brake fluid. Not korea testing nuclear bombs. k pumpkin?

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1) Cross drilled should never be used on a track, that's why they are illegal by sanctioned race bodies and should be banned from track days as well. You're right blank rotors are more than sufficient for the street.
2)You constantly change your brake fluid? How long has the fluid been in there before you this last change?

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Originally Posted by speedminded

By agreeing that bigger brakes stop better and insinuating the only reason to need bigger brakes is when you have more power.

Acceleration and braking decrease whenever weight is added anywhere. The reason larger wheels produce less power on a dyno is because it's adding weight and stress to the drive train. If your new wheels weigh a total of 100lbs more than the old ones you could add that same weight to the drive shaft or axles and have the same effect heavier wheels would.

1) Cross drilled should never be used on a track, that's why they are illegal by sanctioned race bodies and should be banned from track days as well. You're right blank rotors are more than sufficient for the street.
2)You constantly change your brake fluid? How long has the fluid been in there before you this last change?

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I'm not some freak that just likes to change my brake fluid every few months...lol It just happens by chance. When my RR caliper froze I replaced it and of course needed to bleed brakes. Same when I replaced the LR caliper(I replaced it because I got the caliper for $40 new so might as well). And same for a few days ago when I upgraded. Fluid has not sat in my master cylinder for more than like 1 year before getting changed to new fluid. But seeing as how almost my WHOLE braking system is BRAND new lol, I shouldn't have to touch anything with my brakes in a while.

All calipers are new, all pads are new, all rotors are new, all lines are SS braided and new, all hardware such as bolts/guidpins/shims are new...lol

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I'm not some freak that just likes to change my brake fluid every few months...lol It just happens by chance. When my RR caliper froze I replaced it and of course needed to bleed brakes. Same when I replaced the LR caliper(I replaced it because I got the caliper for $40 new so might as well). And same for a few days ago when I upgraded. Fluid has not sat in my master cylinder for more than like 1 year before getting changed to new fluid. But seeing as how almost my WHOLE braking system is BRAND new lol, I shouldn't have to touch anything with my brakes in a while.

All calipers are new, all pads are new, all rotors are new, all lines are SS braided and new, all hardware such as bolts/guidpins/shims are new...lol

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So you just put in the stainless steel brake lines too?

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Originally Posted by speedminded

So you just put in the stainless steel brake lines too?

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Nope, I did that like 10 months ago...

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Originally Posted by speedminded

By agreeing that bigger brakes stop better and insinuating the only reason to need bigger brakes is when you have more power.

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i guess....i hope all that work i did to my brakes, my wifes old mercedes, and countless other friends doesn't come back to haunt me since i don't know anything about brakes....LOL

You are entitled to your opinion. However misguided it may be. :kiss:

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Originally Posted by NissanTun3r

Nope, I did that like 10 months ago...

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...and the pads the exact same compound?