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    Exclamation NEEB HELP FOR MY DATSUN

    WATS UP TUNERS,IM DANIEL,MY CARS A REAL GUD 1,N I NEED HELP FIXN IT UP,SO IF ANY 1 OUT HTER NOS ABOUT DATSUNS LET ME NO

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    hmm...think ur best bet is to sell it

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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad
    hmm...think ur best bet is to sell it
    lol play nice Mr.ToadMan.. im currently doing all the maintanence for the car... car runs beautiful.. only problem is.. my friend just wants to do some basic stuff like headers, exhaust, rims, suspension, weight reduction etc.. all he wants is for some aftermarket support.. like where to get parts and such.. help him out people.. please he's a great kid..
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftjunior
    lol play nice Mr.ToadMan.. im currently doing all the maintanence for the car... car runs beautiful.. only problem is.. my friend just wants to do some basic stuff like headers, exhaust, rims, suspension, weight reduction etc.. all he wants is for some aftermarket support.. like where to get parts and such.. help him out people.. please he's a great kid..
    Black Dragon, Arizona Z Car, and if you live near Canton Highway in Cobb county, or are willing to make the drive and find him, E. Radatz Motorsports. Radatz has been doing stuff to Z's since before doing stuff to Z's was cool. He's forgotten more than most guys know.

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    Sup fellow tuner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLACK 280Z
    WATS UP TUNERS,IM DANIEL,MY CARS A REAL GUD 1,N I NEED HELP FIXN IT UP,SO IF ANY 1 OUT HTER NOS ABOUT DATSUNS LET ME NO
    I'm sorry, I have NO idea what you were typing... Something about NOS on your datsun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivation
    I'm sorry, I have NO idea what you were typing... Something about NOS on your datsun?
    lol he cant spell that good..i kno im his friend and current mechanic.. lol
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    Maybe it meant "knows?"

    Anyone translate dropouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Maybe it meant "knows?"

    Anyone translate dropouts?
    thanks simon for understanding retard, and he is not a dropout.. he's a senior lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Anyone translate dropouts?
    lol i could barely read it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Maybe it meant "knows?"

    Anyone translate dropouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLACK 280Z
    WATS UP TUNERS,IM DANIEL,MY CARS A REAL GUD 1,N I NEED HELP FIXN IT UP,SO IF ANY 1 OUT HTER NOS ABOUT DATSUNS LET ME NO
    well lets see...

    1. what year is it?
    2. what do you want to do to it and for what purpose?
    3. is it a 2+2?

    Quote Originally Posted by driftjunior
    lol play nice Mr.ToadMan.. im currently doing all the maintanence for the car... car runs beautiful.. only problem is.. my friend just wants to do some basic stuff like headers, exhaust, rims, suspension, weight reduction etc.. all he wants is for some aftermarket support.. like where to get parts and such.. help him out people.. please he's a great kid..

    Aight.. so... since i don't know what year it is... I would say... put a chevy 350 in it. you can find some cheap on racingjunk.com streetcarforums.com etc. They fit right in. And will come with everything that you want. They don't weigh anymore than your stock motor (+/- 10 lbs).

    Motor Plates

    Get a steel driveshaft

    I can give you info about the headers but it depends on if the spark plugs are angled or straight.

    Strip the interior.

    Go get the cheap rims at summit if you wanna drag race or find someone looking to get rid of rims... trust me people are selling.

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    There's also a 280z shop in buford/sugar hill...off lawrenceville suwannee... one man shop. Guy road races... He knows his shit... or if you need something... knows where you can find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlliRae
    well lets see...

    1. what year is it?
    2. what do you want to do to it and for what purpose?
    3. is it a 2+2?




    Aight.. so... since i don't know what year it is... I would say... put a chevy 350 in it. you can find some cheap on racingjunk.com streetcarforums.com etc. They fit right in. And will come with everything that you want. They don't weigh anymore than your stock motor (+/- 10 lbs).

    Motor Plates

    Get a steel driveshaft

    I can give you info about the headers but it depends on if the spark plugs are angled or straight.

    Strip the interior.

    Go get the cheap rims at summit if you wanna drag race or find someone looking to get rid of rims... trust me people are selling.

    *********

    There's also a 280z shop in buford/sugar hill...off lawrenceville suwannee... one man shop. Guy road races... He knows his shit... or if you need something... knows where you can find it.
    +1

    I heard you were selling your roadster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlliRae
    well lets see...

    1. what year is it?
    2. what do you want to do to it and for what purpose?
    3. is it a 2+2?




    Aight.. so... since i don't know what year it is... I would say... put a chevy 350 in it. you can find some cheap on racingjunk.com streetcarforums.com etc. They fit right in. And will come with everything that you want. They don't weigh anymore than your stock motor (+/- 10 lbs).

    Motor Plates

    Get a steel driveshaft

    I can give you info about the headers but it depends on if the spark plugs are angled or straight.

    Strip the interior.

    Go get the cheap rims at summit if you wanna drag race or find someone looking to get rid of rims... trust me people are selling.

    *********

    There's also a 280z shop in buford/sugar hill...off lawrenceville suwannee... one man shop. Guy road races... He knows his shit... or if you need something... knows where you can find it.
    its a 77' Datsun 280zx (S30), it is not a 2+2, and he wants to jus find headers, suspension, bolt on shit.. and he is saving up for RB swap.. so no v8's my friend.. thanks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftjunior
    its a 77' Datsun 280zx (S30), it is not a 2+2, and he wants to jus find headers, suspension, bolt on shit.. and he is saving up for RB swap.. so no v8's my friend.. thanks..
    If it's a 1977 model it *is not* a ZX. The ZXs weren't available until 1979.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightSix
    If it's a 1977 model it *is not* a ZX. The ZXs weren't available until 1979.
    lol thats my typo! i forgot to erase the x
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    Please don't ruin a car with another V8 swap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    Please don't ruin a car with another V8 swap.
    dont worry simon i have talked him out of that idea.. he either wants a 13B.. or RB26dett swap.. but rite now he jus wants to find sum parts for his L28 motor..
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    Quote Originally Posted by driftjunior
    dont worry simon i have talked him out of that idea.. he either wants a 13B.. or RB26dett swap.. but rite now he jus wants to find sum parts for his L28 motor..
    Are the bolt ons interchangable with the swap he is wanting to do? If not, then it is just like wiping his ass with money and flushing it down the toilet, because once he does the swap, all the money he has in bolt ons is now a waste... my
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motivation
    Are the bolt ons interchangable with the swap he is wanting to do? If not, then it is just like wiping his ass with money and flushing it down the toilet, because once he does the swap, all the money he has in bolt ons is now a waste... my
    he is getting all the parts he needs for the swap either 13B or RB.. he has the proper mechanics and shops now for his swaps..
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    LSx power FTW

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    lol @ "neeb"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    lol @ "neeb"
    lol i kno.. he's kind of slow
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    Is he foreign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed
    Is he foreign?
    Logical question... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed
    Is he foreign?
    lol he is not foreign.. he is black.. i think u guys have seen him at BP..tall black dude.. and i mean tall.. he's 6'8, no one can miss him
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    im not even trying to be mean. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed
    im not even trying to be mean. lol
    suuuuuure you're not Ed, sure... Now that you have a pit, you are going to have a killer on your hands and you think you are hard.


    *runs*


    ps. you bringing the pup to the V meet?
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    if its not too cold i might come and bring her.

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    If it's a Z aren't those the shorter wheelbase ones? Looks like a 240? Don't swap a RB in it build that engine nicely with some ITB's or something, do some good suspension work, clean it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    If it's a Z aren't those the shorter wheelbase ones? Looks like a 240? Don't swap a RB in it build that engine nicely with some ITB's or something, do some good suspension work, clean it up.
    Yup. It's the shorter wheelbase car. IMO, do whatever the hell you want to a ZX, but nice, straight Zs are getting harder to find so keep the original L28 engine and work that over.

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    What a ridiculous thread. Basically what I am getting out of this is that we have a moron that is trying to ruin a Z car by putting a damn 13b (no one with any sense puts a rotary in a Z car stupid) or an RB in it, which is another retard thing to do to a Z. Sell it to someone who knows WTF they have and buy something more your speed....like a Hyundai Excel. Then kill yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTLFED
    What a ridiculous thread. Basically what I am getting out of this is that we have a moron that is trying to ruin a Z car by putting a damn 13b (no one with any sense puts a rotary in a Z car stupid) or an RB in it, which is another retard thing to do to a Z. Sell it to someone who knows WTF they have and buy something more your speed....like a Hyundai Excel. Then kill yourself.
    I absolutely love how four or five people talking about old school Z's have talked about how you should keep the L series engine in it and "work it over."

    Why in the world would someone spend that much money working over a 12v SOHC engine with the worlds WORST fuel injection system (And it's only more expensive to convert it to the even more problematic Megasquirt) with a non-crossflow head and a weak transmission and differential pairing, especially an L28 with it's low compression. By the time he gets done making the engine produce what an RB20DET or RB25DE Non-turbo makes in power, he'd be out of naturally aspirated potential without stroking and have spent as much as an RB swap would have. What silliness.

    And yes, I am the happy owner of a currently still L-series early '71 240z. Yes, I have considered doing what I have said above, despite calling it silliness. And I don't think I can make an argument for why you would put a rotary into an S30 Z-car actually, so I'll leave that one alone.

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    RB's in Z cars are boring.

    You can make a good L series engine.

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    Hey I'm just posting for my friend.. Sorry if you guys think he's an idiot for fuckin up a great car and motor.. But then again you have to think about what he wants and what he wants to do to his ride.. Basically its like getting a fuckin honda and swapping the motor.. If you want a lot of power then your going to have swap something out right??.. I have told him about ITB's and such things but he wants ridiculous power.. So he is considering a 13B-REW swap or a RB20Dett, RB25dett swap..
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    Sure you CAN make a good L series engine, but for the amount of time and money in a street car, why would you? The simplest way to go is a Triple Weber (Or Mikuni) L28 hi-comp internals setup with a ZX block and head and transmission with a R200 LSD Diff and an upgraded ignition system. The problem is that you really HAVE spent as much as putting an RB into the car and are gonna have all the same problems with a lot lower power cap and much harder to drive power distribution (Sad hi-comp L28 makes a nice chunk of spin-the-wheels at lower RPMS, whereas a turbo RB is a bit easier to drive on the streets). For roadrace I'd stick with the L probably, but for the streets it's a solid tossup either way. Telling the guy that an RB is a dumb idea because it's overdone is akin to telling a guy with a 240 not to put an SR20 into his car because a guy down the street has one. If that's what the guy wants, why're we against it? L series in a Datsun is boring. The same engine was in everything. I'd rather see KA swapped 240z's than L series engines with the same mods that the car had on it back in 1980. Nothing new has come along for the L.


    If he wants RIDICULOUS power you are a few cylinders short. Turbocharged 350 SBC with T5 Trans and 9" diff and custom CV shafts.

    Wait, are you kidding, he wants to do a FD engine for "ridiculous power"? You've gotta be kidding me. The only motors you listed he could get "Ridiculous power" out of is the RB25 and with that you'd spend so much time working on it that you'd die of old age before you got it done. If he wants "Ridiculous power" he should go with an RB26 like all the other "400hp+ or bust" idiots or a big block chevy twin turbocharged. Once he wraps his 280 around a pole or flips it off the road from being unable to drive it, call me, I'd love to see if I could salvage parts off the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    Sure you CAN make a good L series engine, but for the amount of time and money in a street car, why would you? The simplest way to go is a Triple Weber (Or Mikuni) L28 hi-comp internals setup with a ZX block and head and transmission with a R200 LSD Diff and an upgraded ignition system. The problem is that you really HAVE spent as much as putting an RB into the car and are gonna have all the same problems with a lot lower power cap and much harder to drive power distribution (Sad hi-comp L28 makes a nice chunk of spin-the-wheels at lower RPMS, whereas a turbo RB is a bit easier to drive on the streets). For roadrace I'd stick with the L probably, but for the streets it's a solid tossup either way. Telling the guy that an RB is a dumb idea because it's overdone is akin to telling a guy with a 240 not to put an SR20 into his car because a guy down the street has one. If that's what the guy wants, why're we against it? L series in a Datsun is boring. The same engine was in everything. I'd rather see KA swapped 240z's than L series engines with the same mods that the car had on it back in 1980. Nothing new has come along for the L.


    If he wants RIDICULOUS power you are a few cylinders short. Turbocharged 350 SBC with T5 Trans and 9" diff and custom CV shafts.

    Wait, are you kidding, he wants to do a FD engine for "ridiculous power"? You've gotta be kidding me. The only motors you listed he could get "Ridiculous power" out of is the RB25 and with that you'd spend so much time working on it that you'd die of old age before you got it done. If he wants "Ridiculous power" he should go with an RB26 like all the other "400hp+ or bust" idiots or a big block chevy twin turbocharged. Once he wraps his 280 around a pole or flips it off the road from being unable to drive it, call me, I'd love to see if I could salvage parts off the car.
    i agree with u on keeping the L28.. but then again like u said urself there nothing new for the L28.. so for now lets just see what he says..and u havent seen a well built 13B-REW right? cause you are saying it like if 13b's are trash motors or something.. i have seen and driven my share of cars.. and theres one reason why im sticking with rotaries.. i love the overall power band.. especially with boost.. people think the RB26 is the hot shit to have.. but u have to look at it this way.. its in a AWD car.. so of course its going to be fast.. now lets put that motor in a RWD and lets if its going to b as fast.. i dont think so.. but either way im still going to love rotaries no matter what anyone says..

    p.s.... no 350 swaps bro.. he wanted that but changed his mind.. wants to keep everything japanese.. even the motor, but im not doubting the 350's power.. im jus saying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    Sure you CAN make a good L series engine, but for the amount of time and money in a street car, why would you? The simplest way to go is a Triple Weber (Or Mikuni) L28 hi-comp internals setup with a ZX block and head and transmission with a R200 LSD Diff and an upgraded ignition system. The problem is that you really HAVE spent as much as putting an RB into the car and are gonna have all the same problems with a lot lower power cap and much harder to drive power distribution (Sad hi-comp L28 makes a nice chunk of spin-the-wheels at lower RPMS, whereas a turbo RB is a bit easier to drive on the streets). For roadrace I'd stick with the L probably, but for the streets it's a solid tossup either way. Telling the guy that an RB is a dumb idea because it's overdone is akin to telling a guy with a 240 not to put an SR20 into his car because a guy down the street has one. If that's what the guy wants, why're we against it? L series in a Datsun is boring. The same engine was in everything. I'd rather see KA swapped 240z's than L series engines with the same mods that the car had on it back in 1980. Nothing new has come along for the L.


    If he wants RIDICULOUS power you are a few cylinders short. Turbocharged 350 SBC with T5 Trans and 9" diff and custom CV shafts.

    Wait, are you kidding, he wants to do a FD engine for "ridiculous power"? You've gotta be kidding me. The only motors you listed he could get "Ridiculous power" out of is the RB25 and with that you'd spend so much time working on it that you'd die of old age before you got it done. If he wants "Ridiculous power" he should go with an RB26 like all the other "400hp+ or bust" idiots or a big block chevy twin turbocharged. Once he wraps his 280 around a pole or flips it off the road from being unable to drive it, call me, I'd love to see if I could salvage parts off the car.
    I feel you on that, but you can put a later model turbo engine in it and make good power pretty easily with the L28. You live in east cobb and own a Z Car? Have you heard and/or seen the "Gumby 240z?" He kept the L28 and that car is ridiculous, and it is set up for road courses.

    And LOL at putting a 13b in a Z Car. That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. I can see it in a 510 (even though I would never do that to mine), but a Z Car? That's laughable.

    And the RB20 is nothing but a boat anchor. I wouldn't put that in anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HalfBaked
    Anytime I'm driving south of I-20 in the perimeter, I play spot the white driver.

    Generally I don't count past 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTLFED
    I feel you on that, but you can put a later model turbo engine in it and make good power pretty easily with the L28. You live in east cobb and own a Z Car? Have you heard and/or seen the "Gumby 240z?" He kept the L28 and that car is ridiculous, and it is set up for road courses.

    And LOL at putting a 13b in a Z Car. That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. I can see it in a 510 (even though I would never do that to mine), but a Z Car? That's laughable.

    And the RB20 is nothing but a boat anchor. I wouldn't put that in anything.
    Pft, RB20's put down nearly as much as 25DET's do with significantly less initial cost. If you're willing to live with the increased cost of maintenance and are relatively mechanically capable, a 20's fine for a car as light as an S30. RB25+S30+Idiot (Which...really, do we need to argue about that fact after all this?) = Busted S30, Wasted RB25, Dead Idiot the first day it rains.

    And yes, I have seen Gumby 240z, Ed Radatz also has a 240z that has a stroker L28 with high comp and dual SU's that doesn't put down BIG power, but is incredibly well set up for road racing. I didn't say you COULDN'T keep an L28 and have a good car. What I said was that L28's aren't a great motor for making "Ridiculous" power because the cost to get there is so high. Plus, while the Carb'd versions are a dream to work on and damned reliable, the FI is terrible and comes part and parcel with the L28ET you suggested. Plus to make REALLY big power on an L28ET requires a massive intercooler and typically a water/meth injection kit.

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