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Im a chevy girl... my papa is a gm certified mechanic and that's all I grew up around
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what do you base all your bull**** on????Originally Posted by Blitanicle99
how many diesel trucks have you personally owned?
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me to... exactly why im not gonna get one
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hahaha ok yes they have been known to have tranny problems but I love them and stand by them
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Alright fine if you must go ford. Stay clear of the 7.3 and the 6.4. The 6.0 is the way to go. Yes they are still doing recalls to my knowledge. Your best place to look is powerstroke forums. Get the vin of the truck your looking at and there are websites where you can see what has been done at any and all dealerships online for free. One of the perks of ford.
Yes Allison transmissions suck. Stock, they are great. You put anything other than stock power through them and they break very quickly. They are the most complicated, most expensive to rebuild and hardest to rebuild. The Allison 1000 is a better tranny but still complete crap. More expensive than built transmissions and does not come close to the performance. I would take a ford Tranny over a Allison any day of the week. And a dodge manual tranny over anything. Dodge manuals are going to be the toughest.
As I said previously guys are running 1000 hp through a stock dodge tranny with a good clutch, input and output shafts. Thats it.
I am not biased towards Dodge because I have two friends with built diesels but because you simply cannot beat a cummins motor.
1. Based off a semi truck engine. (Those things run for millions of miles w/o problems)
2. Inline six's are torque monsters. Diesels increase their torque more than anything, why not start with a torque designed motor?
3. 7 Main bearings vs 5 main bearings (Dodge vs Ford) That says enough right there.
4. Price! Look up how much it takes to put power down in a ford or chevy and then compare it to dodge. You save lots of money with Dodge. Especially the 12 valve. You can damn near get another 75 hp with a set of tools, welder and a saw zaw!
5. Reliability. Simple designs that are proven and tested work.
6. Cut out the middle man! So many ford and chevy guys swap in cummins motors and trannys. I wonder why... Wait because Cummins rules the diesel world. You dont see Dodge swapping ford motors or any other combo.
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chevy duramax i have one and i tow **** all the damn time i mean like 3-4 times a week and it has never let me down i hit the gas and it goes like i didnt have a trailer
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why do you keep rambling on about moding his tow vehicle that would be the last thing you would want to do to it.
so you are wasting your time and his. nobody gives a **** about tracker pulls on this site....well except you.
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I would personally go with a dodge or chevy.
i dont know what youre talking about saying allison trannies suck. thats the strongest tranny on the market. ALL transmissions need to be beefed up(past a certain point) if you put more power through them because of the additional stress.
you are the only person ive ever met to say that they suck.....
a good friend of mine's dad has a chevy 3500(non dually) diesel with 4wd and the allison transmission and that thing is ROCK SOLID!
dodge would be tied with a chevy if not better.
fords suck ass, after 70k miles the trannies die
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LMAO where the hell did you get your info???
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Well modifying wise, I figure he is on a tuner forum so he obviously likes cars and is not the typical "Just drive it and never have fun" sort of guy. So he might be interested in modifying it one day. And why would modifying a tow vehicle be the last thing you would want to do? Why would someone swap a motor in a civic? It makes it faster... More fun to drive blah blah blah. Its the same reason. I am not trying to start a battle over this.why do you keep rambling on about moding his tow vehicle that would be the last thing you would want to do to it.
so you are wasting your time and his. nobody gives a **** about tracker pulls on this site....well except you.
And yes I may be the only person interested in Diesel power on this site and tractor pulls. I personaly think its funny as **** to see some fast ass car get wooped by an 8000 lb truck. We are all out in the same boat of modding vehicles whether it be for speed, drifting, auto x.. racing a diesel or sled pulls is just another type of car/truck hobby.
But Kreep, if do go ford. Go 6.0, so far they have the least problems and best millage. My roomates F350 4x4 gets about 22 on the highway when he stays out of the throttle and about 18 when hes laying into it.
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reliability last thing you want to be is broke down on the side of the road with a trailer.
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x2 that would ****ing suck towing a broke down car and the truck brecks to lol
I have talked to many people and everyone has said different shat about the fords.
I did read that ford problem started in 2003 with the new 6.0 and the 2004 model.
They are just poorly designed motors. the injectors fail and some of them leak oil from various places , head gaskets blow. The exact motor you just said was the best ford has even stated that they are the worst. But I have read all this about the 6.0 and the 7.3 is the motor that everyone wants. I looked at consumerreports.com and the 2003-2004 6.0 liter scored lowest of of all. Where are you getting the research about the 6.0???????????????? I want to see it. I am not saying it's a bad motor cause I have never owned one but i have heard and read nothing but bad about that motor. Why do you think they went from the 6.0 to a newly redesigned 6.4???????????? I even talked to a Dealer of diesel trucks today and he said stay away from the 6.0 one left his wife stranded the other day. sOMEBODY DO SOME GOOD RESEARCH I SUCK ON THE INTERWEBZ
Oh and no I don't want to mod a diesel other that maybe a chip or something small.
I have 5 Diesel Fords in my fleet of work trucks. All of them have had tranny problems. Granted none of them have had the same problem, but one had the tranny replaced because it got so hot the gears literally started melting and fused together when parked. That was at 3,500 miles. Yes 3,500. Also, since they have been fixed they have been trouble free, but damn. Never had a problem with any of the powerstroke motors, untill they hit around 350,000 miles.
Why? I'm not buying it... Google is your friend
^ if google looks like that im gonna search it all night long! I did search and all i came up with is that the 6.0 liter has had its problems but i figure if the truck has 107,000 miles on it. Its problems have been worked out and taken care of by now! I think im gonna buy it and hope it lasts me till about 350,000 miles! lol I go through cars like i go through toilet paper. and my wife says to quit or she will divorce me. so i will probably sell this one real soon!lol
Real talk.....what do yall think? if it has 100,000 miles on it don't you think all the problems it would have had would have been taken care of by now??????????????????
Danger Will Robbinson. Danger. What year because 107,000 sounds a little high
100k miles on a diesel motor aint ****.
thats like having 10k miles on a civic. its the other stuff that goes bad first
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hmmm yall must bee giving them hell... but my question is are they prior 2003? cause i know those trannys are ****...I have 5 Diesel Fords in my fleet of work trucks. All of them have had tranny problems. Granted none of them have had the same problem, but one had the tranny replaced because it got so hot the gears literally started melting and fused together when parked. That was at 3,500 miles. Yes 3,500. Also, since they have been fixed they have been trouble free, but damn. Never had a problem with any of the powerstroke motors, untill they hit around 350,000 miles.
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2003 F-250 w/107,000 miles but thats not shat for a diesel! But my concern is weather at this many miles have all the problems been taken care of or will i have more problems with it in the future?
Nope, 2006-2007's. Some of the older ones were '03s and '04s were up there in the 300,000 - 400,000 range. We average around 75,000 miles per year per truck. But some drive more than others.
Welcome to the world of buying a used car/truck.
ahhhhh i know that I have had more cars this year than most people have in a life time. I went through 6 cars this year.
acura integra
jeep wrangler
toyota 4 runner
toyota 4runner
chevy truck
volks wagen jetta
damn that sucks.. I really havent heard of any problems out of the trannys on those years, but with any car, you cant get one made on a monday or friday lol esp american...
ive had 13 cars this year, but Im planning on keeping the F250 i get for a while...
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YEAH......When i purchase an F-250....that is it for me and car buying unless I sell my trail rig and decide to buy another jeep but I am going to keep the 250 for ever!
The truck I am test driving all day today is a black 2003 F-250 4x4 crew cab w/ sport package it's got everything a lariat has except the two tone paint and wood grain.
It's black w/ black leather and brand new bf goodrich all terrains.
nice.... how much are they asking for it?The truck I am test driving all day today is a black 2003 F-250 4x4 crew cab w/ sport package it's got everything a lariat has except the two tone paint and wood grain.
It's black w/ black leather and brand new bf goodrich all terrains.
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Well he is asking 20k for it but I asked if he was willing to work with me on the price and he said yeah. So i am shooting for maybe 19k?????? what do you think?
2003 f-250 crew cab
leather
power everything
sunroof
nice step bar
sprayed in bedliner
107,000 miles
power adjustable pedals...cause im short lol
w/o question, in a diesel truck Cummins is the long standing leader, and is a high mileage king. If you dont mind it being in a dodge truck. The chevy duramax is so good now as well, making the 7.3, and 6.0 Ford PSDs pale in comparison (And I'm a Ford guy) I am not very familiar yet w/ the new Ford, but If I were going to buy a truck to haul anything, and be a daily, I'd get a 2500 Dodge diesel. Its avail in quad cab and short bed now, so it looks like a 1500, but hauls butt when lightly modded, and gets right at 20 mpg and w/ a programmer it has more tq than you'll ever need.
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07 Passat Wagon
01 Frontier
I'd go with Dodge as well...
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Sorry for not helping out for a few days. I have been busy. And honestly felt that I had already made my point.
Kreep did you buy that f250? Good lookin truck man!
As people stated about the dodges I have already said alot about them. I never really went into commonrails (02-06) I didnt not know you were in the 20k price range or I would have gone more into that too. Also great motors, same inline six design and more power and some badass mileage. Reading up on some forums on what guys are getting is apparently around 26 modded. You cant beat that, at all. I read in a Diesel power of people getting 28-29 with intake, and exhaust and their programmer on the "0" Level.
As with fords. People argue back and forth 7.3 vs 6.0. On the 7.3 you had to watch the injectors as they are expensive to replace. The 6.0 had head gasket problems. Where I get my info? I am constantly reading Diesel forums, Diesel magazines I have lots of friends with Diesels that I find out what breaks on them and what not. Alot of my stuff I know about the 6.0, my roomate is a ford FREAK. Knows everything about for diesels there is to know, drives a F350 6.0, dad drives a F250 6.0, flipped a F250 6.0, roping partner drives a F250 7.3. Most of the guys in rodeo are very biased toward Ford.
I am a dodge freak, I love the motors and I can actually afford them. I have my eye on two diesels right now I have been in contact with for a week or two now and the day my truck sells I will be buying one of them. One of them is a 97 Dodge 3500 Dually 5spd. The other is surprisingly enough a F250 7.3 Manual. Dodges are expensive, the dodge is more than the ford and the ford is 4 years newer. Both have similiar miles and condition.
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I ENDED UP BUYING A 02 DURA MAX W/ ALLISON AND 85,000 MILES
4X4 CREW CAB AUTO TURBO DIESEL FTW! GREAT GAS MILEAGE W/ THE PROGRAMMER
I PICK IT UP ON MONDAY!!!!!!! IM EXCITED!
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