note* NAD AUTO had a front clip with complete drive train for sale a while ago. too bad it was 7000 i would have bought it lol
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note* NAD AUTO had a front clip with complete drive train for sale a while ago. too bad it was 7000 i would have bought it lol
lol,thats more than i paid for my car....u can get a 3SGTE for $1500 then get a hood and bumper for bout $600 and not sure what the side skirts and spoiler go forQuote:
Originally Posted by PURE jdm
I just saw this thread... LOL
All you guys can suck it :)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...7/DSCF1483.jpg
lol just kidding, I have hondas and Toyotas :)
BMWs are good cars...I just find them all too "common". Not to say that I wouldn't LOVE to have an e36 M3...
I've noticed that some owners are asses about their cars. There's one BMW guy I know of who seems to shoot down every car that I say I like. Hah, he slammed on my SAAB quite a bit. That doesn't speak for all owners though, of course.
I saw 2 e46 M3's in the Super H Mart parking lot revving their engines and cruising around driving recklessly. The both parked right in the middle of the street, hanging out the window talking to eachother.
Both had really nice cars. I believe theyre members on here. I remember it as a red e46 M3 and a black boosted one. They were both fucking gorgeous (the cars).
I thought it was pretty funny. But hell, if i could afford a nice car like that I'd be acting dumb showing off too.
I'm sure all car brands have their share of dumbasses.
I am going to have to agree with what has been said in this thread. You can't own a BMW and not have atleast some liquid cash to be spending on it. It is a fact. I am not saying it to be an elitest at all. Some people want a "nice car". Some people definition of a "nice car" is different than others. You still need money for Porsche, Lexus, Acura, Infiniti. I notice no one on here rags on people with G35s yet those cost almost as much as an M3 if you option them out.Quote:
Originally Posted by fcman
I believe the BMW is considered one of the worst is because someone makes a post and a BMW guy defends the BMW and he is labeled an "asshole/elitest/retard/nutswing/etc." Yet other people can defend their brand with no problems. They are nut swingers. Maybe it is because BMW owners have a passion that the car evokes that other cars just don't have. So they will defend it very aggressively.
You have to consider that if you "can afford" a BMW M5 you "have made it". You did something right. You are succesful. I know this is not 100% true. Born into money or it was given to you or whatever. Then there are also people who don't buy nice cars. My dad drives a Jeep Liberty. He doesn't want anything else. He could easily have an M5. He just simply doesn't care. There is something to be said when you pick up a potential business client at the airport in an M3 or M5 rather than say a Honda Accord Sedan. There is no denying that. Same coule be said if you roll up in an S55 AMG or a Lexus GS430. All of the luxury makes have an elitest thing about them. Would you pay 50,000 dollars for a car that didn't have some aura about it? Is a BMW 35,000 dollars better than another car? Some would say yes and some would say no. 90% of the guys buying luxury cars are doing so to say they have money. It is not just BMW.Quote:
Originally Posted by HypnoToad
AHAHAHAHHA LOL at Jordan! roflmao
I just don't understand why they feel the need to defend it. I love my car, and I am very passionate about all automobiles (including BMWs)Quote:
Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
But if someone comes up to me and talks shit about my car, I'm not going to try to convince them and change their opinion. It's my car, not theirs. Why should I give a damn what they think? I didn't buy my car to show the world how awesome it is, hell I drive slower than my grandmother, unless there is no one around to impress. I love my car and I don't give 2 shits if anyone else does or does not.
Because it is exactly as I said. The attack involves the owner being gay(cause all gay guys drive BMW). The car is overpriced and "car x" can do everything. You are a "nutswinger" and all the other bullshit. Rarely is it just an attack on the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by fcman
And then the question can be raised. Why do you need to hate? We all hate on each others stuff and we probably should all learn to just not say anything mean. Remember our parents said that :) But then it gets started and we defend or you defend. Rarely are the internet arguments the same in person. I am a rather relaxed guy and will talk about whatever car you want and I am not opposed to most cars. Some I do have a hate for but it is through experience. But if a fun E-Debate comes up I guess the BMW guys love to argue :)
real talkQuote:
Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
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Originally Posted by richw131
i think that the title about sums it up.
-jonathan
Blasphemy!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PURE jdm
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Originally Posted by DeweyWRX
*throws holy water*
i cast thee out demon of boxer hell! out i saw out! in the name of all things good and INLINE i command thee Stop sounding broken! so sayrth the shepard, so sayeth the flock! :taun:Quote:
Originally Posted by DeweyWRX
Very substantial post. I agree with you after all the facts and figures you just posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRXseven
EVEN I CAN AGREE WITH THAT!Quote:
Originally Posted by DeweyWRX
Blashpemy!
I actually came in here thinking "Not one of these threads again", but after seeing your post, ... wow.. real talk...Quote:
Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
I believe it has to do with price.. not many people can afford an M3, so others are often looked down upon by M3 owners.... I've heard some M3 owners even look down on people with 3 series BMW's......
Of course it all depends on the person / owner, and does not represent the brand at all. there are nutswingers with any brand. However, it always seem to involve some BMW owners... You don't see this much with Audi S owners or AMG owners, though i know there are extremists there too.
I believe BMW's are fantastic cars. I have friends with M3. I myself would love to have an M3 (the e46) as a second car. But I also believe and recognize there are also many fantastic cars out there... the S4, the C63 AMG.. and now the S5 from Audi... even Lexus is joining the game with the IS-F.
I guess there is no way to go wrong with any of them, provided you recognize what you look for in a car. Some people like the rawness of an M3, other the plushness of a Lexus, yet others prefer the luxury of the AMG. It all boils down to your preferences.
good, I'm glad we came to an agreement so quicky. :goodjob:Quote:
Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
-jonathan
great post... Ya Guys with new E46 M3's have looked down on me before.. It is mostly because they buy the cars to say "look I made It" I bought the car because well it's the best chassis ever! lol .....
Not all BMW guys are dicks. It's usually the guys that drive the newer ones and dont even know much about cars, or the rich teen whos dad bought him a new BMW and thinks it's the ultimate driving machine and can out handle and perform any car on the road.
Nuh uhhh... pick any BMW on the planet - and I will show you a Honda that will wax it's ass! LOL
I love it raw! That's why I got an M3!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ISAtlanta300
roflmao!
dont pick mine :)/ acutally had a honda that was faster than this car will ever be...Quote:
Originally Posted by BABY J
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Originally Posted by HypnoToad
Not to burst your bubble, but Toyota's only involvement in the 3S was assembly and sales. The motor was Designed, tested and built by Yamaha. It even says it on the cam cover lol. ALso the 3s is FAAAAAAAARR from the best motor they have ever had to offer. 1UZ for instance? 22RE? 4ag? all are better IMO, and the 2JZ is leaps and bounds better. as far as 2.0 liters are concerned the 3SGTE FTL
4g63>EJ20>SR20>RB20 :gay: >3SGTE :lmfao:
u really think the Sr20 is better than the 3sgte?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sport20
:ninja: he knows better than the hate on the SR.... i'm watching you danny!
:ninja:
:ninja: choose wisely
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Originally Posted by HypnoToad
Yes. Unfortunately i do. Unless u are meaning the 3SGE, in which case
f20c>K20>BEAMS 3S>SR20DE>FSDE :gay:
heard you picked one up!? blue bird?Quote:
Originally Posted by PURE jdm
gayness.........lol
Its still a great motor...but not the best Toyota has ever come out with. Toyota has a Long history of Amazing motors...the S-series is just one of the manyQuote:
Originally Posted by HypnoToad
In no particular order.....
3S
4A
2ZZ
2JZ
3UZ
2GR
5VZ
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Originally Posted by richw131
How bout all UZ family, 22re (most reliable motor of all time), and 4E :lmfao: :gay:
Also, i like how the BMW "Elitist" thread turned into a "TOYOTA IS THE BEST EVAAAR!!" thread...well played. lolol
id say the 22re is the best toyota engine,lol....but not for performance
u know the 7afe is the best,lol
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Originally Posted by HypnoToad
Well Back in the day it was the motor to have....It beat out the Jap versions of the Celica with the 18RG (another famous motor) and placed 3rd in the 1985 Macao Grand Prix behind (at the time) unbeatable BMW's. They are pretty much indestructable, SUPER TQ'Y, and overproduced. Is also a world famous motor used in offroad racing (baja etc). Also for those lucky enough the 22RTE offered in 1985-1988 on Pick-up and 4Runners was a beast!! Nitro / Methanol fueled dragsters in the late 80's producing in excess of 1100 HP with these motors. its also IMO one of the coolest sounding carbed Toyota motors ever.
lol. The 7af is only worth a damn with a 4a head and a 944 timing chain
yea,my grand dads got one in his toyota pickup.....its a damn good engine,300k miles and runs perfect....got pretty take off too for little 4cyl pickupQuote:
Originally Posted by Sport20
S62
s50b32
s38b38
To list a few ;)
avenir :ninja: bb styleQuote:
Originally Posted by Sport20
503E FTW
S14 > *Quote:
Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
i love bmw and i do knock others cars but in a joking manner and who doesnt? its always fun to stand in front of some guy with a mustang or honda and rant about how they suck but i could easily do the same about bmw.
i would just like to point out that e30 which is my model arent to commonly built. you dont see boosted e30s everyday.Quote:
Originally Posted by VooDooXII