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s14_kouki_drifter
03-10-2005, 10:17 PM
A long story shot i purchased a 2,000 dollar turbo kit only to have some jack ass break into my house and steal a whole lot more than just my turbo kit. So basically i lost like 4,000 so i called home owners insurance so i recieved a check back for 4200. So heres my thing should i build the ka-t or go sr and shoot for 500 hp either way its possible with both motors i know the ka-t requires an extensive build up to attain over 350 hp . But just getting some oppinions cause i am on the verge of not to sure to choose and why .

CMO
03-10-2005, 10:33 PM
To get 500hp is gonna cost you some cash either with the KA or the SR. I suggest you doing an all out search on both motors then decide what to do.

wannab20hatch
03-10-2005, 10:37 PM
Id go with the SR. I love the SR.

ruah_23
03-10-2005, 11:23 PM
See which one has more tourqe!!
I love tourqe!!

EmotorsportsE
03-11-2005, 07:57 AM
Why not go RB? Better torque than the SR, rev's better than the KA-T, and it can do at least 450 on stock internals.

E
www.e-emotorsports.com

auxiliary
03-11-2005, 10:06 AM
you better do like n rb25, cause there's nothing like putting an old motor into a newer car.

If you do an SR your SR is going to cost you more if you do it right and get a 97/98 SR. If you decide to do a red top then it will only cost about 2500, but then again you're doing an old motor into a newer car.

s14_kouki_drifter
03-11-2005, 03:52 PM
rather do a rb20det rb25 is to much

AFSil80
03-11-2005, 04:32 PM
Good luck with it, Caleb!

Shintegra
03-11-2005, 11:03 PM
I got an rb26 in my 240 altho it cost some money. Now i have to rebuild the motor but u will need more than 4200

BruceAlmighty
03-12-2005, 01:50 AM
its your money do what you want. we can suggest everything in the world, but in the end its your choice...

LeX
03-12-2005, 07:38 AM
check out www.flashoptions.com for great prices on motors, they seem legit and i was going to buy from them but never got my 240

silviadriftr
03-12-2005, 09:28 AM
Don't get me wrong, I like the rb motors but the price of the parts to replace items on the rb is about three times as expensive as an sr. As for the KA-t, there are people around who have put down good numbers and even some ghost tales of some around georgia which noone has ever seen but all the KA-t guys have "heard" of. Yes to put down 500whp get ready to put down some loot. I just got thru building 3 sleeved, race ready sr bottom ends and 2 built heads for this season. If tuned correctly you can get 375-400 with a fully stock motor and everything bolton upgraded, but if you have any lean issues occur it won't take long for the motor to go. Why not a 2jzgte???????????????????? Supra MKIV turbo motor, just a thought....

auxiliary
03-12-2005, 12:07 PM
If he doesn't want to spend the money on an rb25...he wouldn't want to buy a 2j, they're highway robbery for those. If you do it right and get an supra 6-speed. You could always get one out of a soarer with an auto, but it's still more than a rb25

silviadriftr
03-12-2005, 12:33 PM
If he doesn't want to spend the money on an rb25...he wouldn't want to buy a 2j, they're highway robbery for those. If you do it right and get an supra 6-speed. You could always get one out of a soarer with an auto, but it's still more than a rb25

Just picked a morset up for 1700.00 with harness and modding a different trans to put on it for the 240. Why not a t56 trans???????????? Also I wasn't refering to the cost of the motorset I was refering to the price and waiting period for the rb20,25,26 parts. :)

s14_kouki_drifter
03-12-2005, 10:23 PM
maybe its me but i am having problems finding parts for the rb20 so i am leaning wehter or not to do a black top sr i mean with 4-5 k i could build a mean sr and plus i need to get my car on the roll pretty soon ..... my shoes can only take me so far and dont feel like waiting for extended periods of time for a swap.

BruceAlmighty
03-13-2005, 11:31 PM
for $4-5k, i can build a meaner KA-T...

SLOWR/T
03-13-2005, 11:59 PM
this is kinda related, but which has more power the black top or red top? what is the differance? besides the color there must be something different.

flysi00
03-16-2005, 12:46 PM
i would go SR i have a sr and i love it i got about 8 grand into mine and damn so far no problems and parts are easy to find just go to enjukuracing.com

auxiliary
03-16-2005, 01:07 PM
for $4-5k, i can build a meaner KA-T...


no you can't.


Eric already switched sides too. KA-t is a lost cause.

auxiliary
03-16-2005, 01:07 PM
this is kinda related, but which has more power the black top or red top? what is the differance? besides the color there must be something different.


they're the "same"

blacktops have cooling fins on the block/head right under the valve cover.

auxiliary
03-16-2005, 01:09 PM
i would go SR i have a sr and i love it i got about 8 grand into mine and damn so far no problems and parts are easy to find just go to enjukuracing.com


8000 is a lot, either you got ripped off, or you have done hefty amount of mods. Does that 8 grand include the price of the motor set you used? just motor mods, or everything included...electronics, gauges, stuff like that?

I ask because I'm starting to build my s13 and I really hope it doesn't get up to 8 grand in motor work.

CMO
03-16-2005, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE=auxiliary]no you can't.


Eric already switched sides too. KA-t is a lost cause.

Your wrong there my friend. If you know where to look you can build a meaner KA-T for $4-5k than you can an SR20.

EmotorsportsE
03-17-2005, 07:19 AM
I haven't switched sides, If I had 5k, I'd go bad ass KA-T over the SR. I go through phases, you'll see my new KA-T soon. 8k, would be awesome to dump into a KA-T.

E

silviadriftr
03-17-2005, 09:20 AM
they're the "same"

blacktops have cooling fins on the block/head right under the valve cover.

The difference is that the black top s13 motors were made 94 and up and s13 red top was made in the earlier car. When they decided to extend production of the s13 chassis they had already changed the color for the valve cover and decided to make them black top to denote the generation of s13. The s14 black top has the hump in the valve cover. :)

silviadriftr
03-17-2005, 09:22 AM
maybe its me but i am having problems finding parts for the rb20 so i am leaning wehter or not to do a black top sr i mean with 4-5 k i could build a mean sr and plus i need to get my car on the roll pretty soon ..... my shoes can only take me so far and dont feel like waiting for extended periods of time for a swap.


4-5 k plus the motor. After all the parts which will run from 2500-3000 then you have to get the block worked and head worked by a machine shop, then if you don't put it together you have to pay some else to.

HalfBaked
03-17-2005, 02:25 PM
rather do a rb20det rb25 is to much


If you put an rb20 into a kouki I'd hope someone would slap you.

s14_kouki_drifter
03-17-2005, 06:27 PM
whats wrong with throwin a rb20 in my 240 ?

EmotorsportsE
03-17-2005, 07:15 PM
They're quicker than your SR :) 230 to the wheels on a stock swap, why not? The parts are there, you just gotta know where to look.

E
E&E Motorsports
www.e-emotorsports.com

flysi00
03-17-2005, 08:42 PM
8000 is a lot, either you got ripped off, or you have done hefty amount of mods. Does that 8 grand include the price of the motor set you used? just motor mods, or everything included...electronics, gauges, stuff like that?

I ask because I'm starting to build my s13 and I really hope it doesn't get up to 8 grand in motor work.


s13 swap (SR20DET)
MLS 3 layer head gasket with all new seals
APR head blots and exhaust manifold blots
ARC Oil Pan
Taka Turbo Lines coolant in/out and oil in
spec stg3 clutch/flywheel
garrett T3/T4 turbo
MR stainless t3/t4 turbo manifold
darton sleeves
electric fans
HKS hi power turbo cat back
HKS down pipe
HKS Cams
HKS cam gears
CP Piston Set
Crower Billet Rods
NGK Iridium Spark Plug
nisom motor mounts
custom test pipe
blitz front mount intercooler
blitz SD bov
blitz full turbo timer
apexi s-afc ll
Tomei 555cc Fuel Injectors
NISMO Adj. fuel pressure regulator
Border fuel rail
AIV Plug
custom intercooler piping
NX wet system with purge
turbo sx dual stg boost/c
autometer phatom gauge's boost/vac, oil psi , nitrous , EGT , air fuel , volts and gauge pod
KYB adj.
tein lowering springs
nisom sturt bars and sway
s14 LSD
tanabe camber kit

to lazy to type up all what the head has but the head has a full rebuild port and polish etc etc

and no the sr20 was not in the 8 grand that went into this setup

HalfBaked
03-17-2005, 10:10 PM
whats wrong with throwin a rb20 in my 240 ?

You'd put a motor from a 1989 into your car from 1997 or 98?

That's stupid.

Why go with something old.

If I was in your shoes, I'd turbo a KA before going RB20.

SandM
03-18-2005, 06:25 AM
damn flysi00.... i guess that 8 grand is a good investment.

flysi00
03-18-2005, 01:36 PM
damn flysi00.... i guess that 8 grand is a good investment.

thanks man yeah i love my sr20d thanks to me and H&M motorsports and enjukuracing for making it happen

i love it when peolpe walk up to me and say u think u all bad ass cuz u got a stock sr20 and im like lol lets run and when they get smoked they are like WTF

flysi00
03-18-2005, 01:41 PM
You'd put a motor from a 1989 into your car from 1997 or 98?

That's stupid.

Why go with something old.

If I was in your shoes, I'd turbo a KA before going RB20.

i would go rb20

its like saying why do peolpe put red tops in 95+ its the same thing

HiPSI
03-18-2005, 04:08 PM
check out www.flashoptions.com for great prices on motors, they seem legit and i was going to buy from them but never got my 240


sure, if you like paying for something and likely never recieving it ;)

AFSil80
03-20-2005, 09:48 PM
sure, if you like paying for something and likely never recieving it ;)

That's the damn truth...person I knew waited almost a year before getting his S13RT SR delivered.