Since Saddam Is Set To Die Within 30 Days....

[Brett]

How many think it should be on TV? Or even a Pay-Per-View event? Think of the cash that could be made. They are deciding if his hanging will be private or public, if its public I think we need to all watch it live.

[Bballjamal]

It'd never happen but with how vile the world is now I don't see why it shouldn't be viewed by billions!

[TLfanatic]

hell ya that shit should be public on every tv station.

[Brett]

It'd never happen but with how vile the world is now I don't see why it shouldn't be viewed by billions!

See, I think we should do away with the pansy ass lethal injection shit and go back to good 'ol hanging's and frying, and make it a pay per view event for everyone of them, I bet that would detur would be killers :D

[AtifSajid]

The decision was right in my opinion for all the people he killed. But I think something like this should be left up to the individual themself if they want it to be public or private. I myself wouldnt watch it regardless.

[Tank]

put it on public TV after spending my 13 months in the god damn desert i want to see his ass hang for the shit he did to those people.

[Brett]

put it on public TV after spending my 13 months in the god damn desert i want to see his ass hang for the shit he did to those people.

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[The Yousef]

i hate you brett...

[Bballjamal]

See, I think we should do away with the pansy ass lethal injection shit and go back to good 'ol hanging's and frying, and make it a pay per view event for everyone of them, I bet that would detur would be killers :D

Yea, that does sound like the democratic way to die! :D

[buddha@TeamFX]

I agree...He should be hung publically for everyone to see!!!...

[thinkfast®]

OGRISH.COM FOR THE AFTERMATH/POST GAME WRAP UP LOL

[Brett]

Yea, that does sound like the democratic way to die! :D

I mean think about it, Uts so humane to kill somone by lethal injection. So why give them that? Did they give the people they killed a humane way to die? Hell no!! EYE FOR AN EYE!!! I say we execute people the way the kill thier victims, but slower and on TV :D

[HvyArms]

What's that you say? The American terrorists are gonna hang the Iraqi dictator who they put into power in the first place? What's that you say? They're doing it because he didn't allow them access to oil like the agreement stated, but they're telling the American public that he's being hung for the killing of so many Iraqi citizens so many years ago? Ahh, I see.

What was the question again?

[2.0civic]

What's that you say? The American terrorists are gonna hang the Iraqi dictator who they put into power in the first place? What's that you say? They're doing it because he didn't allow them access to oil like the agreement stated, but they're telling the American public that he's being hung for the killing of so many Iraqi citizens so many years ago? Ahh, I see.

What was the question again?

THATS PROBABLY THE MOST IGNORANT POST IVE SEEN ON THIS SITE

[HvyArms]

THATS PROBABLY THE MOST IGNORANT POST IVE SEEN ON THIS SITE

...umm, have you seen ANY of my other posts? No seriously, what's most ignorant about it?

[2.0civic]

just the entire fact that people assume that we are over there only for oil is ignorant.

Are you pissed about your opinions as to why we went over there or to why he is getting the death penalty?

as far as seeing any of your other posts, most of those are fucking retarded too.."Cops pulled me over for tag" is about all the fuck you ever talk about. Maybe if they didnt think you were trying to fly off the road with that big ass wing you wouldnt get pulled over

[Brett]

What's that you say? The American terrorists are gonna hang the Iraqi dictator who they put into power in the first place? What's that you say? They're doing it because he didn't allow them access to oil like the agreement stated, but they're telling the American public that he's being hung for the killing of so many Iraqi citizens so many years ago? Ahh, I see.

What was the question again?

Oh yeah cause the man doesnt deserve to die huh? Killing THOUSANDS of his own people with chemical weapons because of thier religious choice isnt enough reason for his ass to hang? How about the raping of girls and woman? yeah your right, we should applaud him not hang him :rolleyes:

[thinkfast®]

just the entire fact that people assume that we are over there only for oil is ignorant.

Are you pissed about your opinions as to why we went over there or to why he is getting the death penalty?

as far as seeing any of your other posts, most of those are fucking retarded too.."Cops pulled me over for tag" is about all the fuck you ever talk about. Maybe if they didnt think you were trying to fly off the road with that big ass wing you wouldnt get pulled over

:lmfao: :lmfao: :lmfao: +23 HOMEY

[Julio]

He shouldnt be hanged. They should bring him over to the U.S and run a day care center.
I think he would be a great in our country.
Please dont kill him.

[2.0civic]

lol yeah i mean cause that would be like us going after hitler cause we wanted mercedes...come on now...google genocide and read then think before you say dumb shit

[Julio]

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[Brett]

lol yeah i mean cause that would be like us going after hitler cause we wanted mercedes...come on now...google genocide and read then think before you say dumb shit

You may have just gone over his head with that one :lmfao:

[Ran]

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Anyways, I don't care if they broadcast it or not. I won't watch. People are all up in arms, yelling about how happy they are that Saddam is going to be gone. Like they really f*cking care. I mean really. Most Americans don't give two sh*ts whether Saddam goes to jail for life or is executed. They may have an opinion about what they think should be done, but if he were to rot in jail for the rest of his life instead of being executed, we wouldn't really care. Either way, does the guy deserve to die for what he did? Sure. Is what happens to him going to really make a difference in your life or mine? No, not really. Hang him, zap him, inject him, toss him in jail, it doesn't matter. He's not in power anymore and that's what counts.

[Brett]

Yeah but its nice to see him pay for his crimes, so I care and would enjoy seeing him hung on TV, Kinda like watching Karma come around and bite him in the ass

[HvyArms]

just the entire fact that people assume that we are over there only for oil is ignorant.

Are you pissed about your opinions as to why we went over there or to why he is getting the death penalty?

as far as seeing any of your other posts, most of those are fucking retarded too.."Cops pulled me over for tag" is about all the fuck you ever talk about. Maybe if they didnt think you were trying to fly off the road with that big ass wing you wouldnt get pulled over


First of all, there's no "we" that's over there. Your coward ass is sitting here, in Atlanta, in a warm air conditioned room at a desk talking dumb shit about policys that you aren't even familiar with. "We" as in you and I, are both ignorant to that degree. Neither you or I, know what's really going on in Iraq. I've just enough sense, to understand that this country's motive's aren't ever as pure as the citizens are told and expected to believe. I know that economics, and economics alone, dictate the motions of the goverment. Has nothing to do with injustice. If there was no oil in the middle-east, the US wouldnt even be there.

Second, I'm not pissed. I'm just wondering why you'd call my response ignorant, like, what's that based on. The fact that my opinions may not be the same as yours? I couldn't careless about that, not even if I concentrated on caring less. You dont like my opinion, fine, you don't have to. But rather than argue with you about it, I have an ass you can kiss instead. But not my ass, you can kiss Bush's ass, and when you're done kissin his ass you can wipe your mouth off with an american flag. But not the kind that flies on a pole, the kind that's folded into a triangle and handed to the family of a young soldier that's been killed in some far off country fighting for some bullshit that neither he, or his family fully understands. Then, after you've done all that, you can eloquently express to me how our opinions differ. And I'll still not give a shit, because we don't have to agree. It doesnt make me ignorant though.

Finally...dude my car doesn't have a damn wing on it. Next time, lets try to know wtf we're talking about before we decide to say shit aight? Great:goodjob:

[2.0civic]

First of all, there's no "we" that's over there. Your coward ass is sitting here, in Atlanta, in a warm air conditioned room at a desk talking dumb shit about policys that you aren't even familiar with. "We" as in you and I, are both ignorant to that degree. Neither you or I, know what's really going on in Iraq. I've just enough sense, to understand that this country's motive's aren't ever as pure as the citizens are told and expected to believe. I know that economics, and economics alone, dictate the motions of the goverment. Has nothing to do with injustice. If there was no oil in the middle-east, the US wouldnt even be there.

Second, I'm not pissed. I'm just wondering why you'd call my response ignorant, like, what's that based on. The fact that my opinions may not be the same as yours? I couldn't careless about that, not even if I concentrated on caring less. You dont like my opinion, fine, you don't have to. But rather than argue with you about it, I have an ass you can kiss instead. But not my ass, you can kiss Bush's ass, and when you're done kissin his ass you can wipe your mouth off with an american flag. But not the kind that flies on a pole, the kind that's folded into a triangle and handed to the family of a young soldier that's been killed in some far off country fighting for some bullshit that neither he, or his family fully understands. Then, after you've done all that, you can eloquently express to me how our opinions differ. And I'll still not give a shit, because we don't have to agree. It doesnt make me ignorant though.

Finally...dude my car doesn't have a damn wing on it. Next time, lets try to know wtf we're talking about before we decide to say shit aight? Great:goodjob:


LIRL at you for obviously not knowing me...The ONLY reason im not in the military now is because the day i went in to finish up signing paperwork, they dropped my sign on 10k and tried to change my MOS...DONT FUCKING SAY SHIT TO ME ABOUT MILITARY

As far as the comment about flags being handed to soldiers families, hate to break it to you and this may be a shock to most people but its war...death happens..the kids that go over there now thinking "oh hell yeah i get $80k for college" or whatever...it wasnt about the money for me but the fact i went from trying to be a communications tech over there to going into artillery, fuck that. However, if there ever was a draft or whatever, i wouldnt be afraid to go. Hell, matter of fact, i talked to my old recruiter last week.

only thing im saying is everyone wants to say were over there for oil...if thats the case, we would just have gone over there blown up the fucking country and dipped out but we are the only country that goes by the geneva convention(something else for you to google). that is why your opinionized biased statement was ignorant.

sorry i got under your skin

[HvyArms]

Oh yeah cause the man doesnt deserve to die huh? Killing THOUSANDS of his own people with chemical weapons because of thier religious choice isnt enough reason for his ass to hang? How about the raping of girls and woman? yeah your right, we should applaud him not hang him :rolleyes:

Brett, I'm not gonna argue with you because we've met and you seem pretty cool. Also you're older than I am, AND, we've never had any unkind words. Just wanna ask this though, Saddam got those chemical weapons from who? To be used to kill...who? And finally, who's raped more young Iraqi women: A-Saddam Hussein? or B-US soldiers occupying Iraq? Hmmm:thinking:

[2.0civic]

and we have oil in alaska...we really dont need iraq if it came to it...research is your friend

[Brett]

Brett, I'm not gonna argue with you because we've met and you seem pretty cool. Also you're older than I am, AND, we've never had any unkind words. Just wanna ask this though, Saddam got those chemical weapons from who? To be used to kill...who? And finally, who's raped more young Iraqi women: A-Saddam Hussein? or B-US soldiers occupying Iraq? Hmmm:thinking:

if we went over there for oil, why have we not seen any coming into our economy? Why are we still buying it all elsewhere? We have not dipped into thier supply to benefit us thats for sure.

Yeah our soldiers have done some bad things over there as well, We see that on the news, we see them getting punsihed to, which Id like to see them pay just as much as Saddam. Any crime like that deserves death as far as I am concerened when it comes to raping woman and children. But Saddam and his regime made it a part of daily life there, Crimes from our soldiers are far few and between and I will not place blame on the military for a few bad soldiers who feel they can do what they want over there. Those few are taking advantage of a bad situation.

The chemical weapons he used were used to kill the minority religions in IRAQ. He was wiping people out by the thousands and burying them in mass graves which the U.S has uncovered many of them. Why did he kill them you ask? Because of thier religious beliefs, so see Saddam is not much different than Hitler, He killed thousands upon thousands of Jews for the same reason. No matter how you look at it, Saddam killed who he wanted and when he wanted and in his mind it was justified.

[Ran]

and we have oil in alaska...we really dont need iraq if it came to it...research is your friendHaving it is one thing, tapping it and bringing it to the 48 is another. There's a lot of Environmental politics keeping us from really bringing oil out of Alaska.

[HvyArms]

Riight, the Geneva Convention. That's funny, because the US has been in Violation of the Geneva Convention agreements...since the Geneva Convention Agreement. In violation and lying about it, why dont YOU Google Churchills most famous quote about being dishonest in times of war.

I've heard there's oil in Alaska, but not nearly as much as the middle east. I could be wrong, but I think they control something like high 20's, or 30 something percent of the worlds oil. Especially the Saudi royal family. If it's a humanitarian effort, then why not go to hmmm N. Korea?

[HvyArms]

The chemical weapons he used were used to kill the minority religions in IRAQ. He was wiping people out by the thousands and burying them in mass graves which the U.S has uncovered many of them. Why did he kill them you ask? Because of thier religious beliefs, so see Saddam is not much different than Hitler, He killed thousands upon thousands of Jews for the same reason. No matter how you look at it, Saddam killed who he wanted and when he wanted and in his mind it was justified.

Dude, with all due respect, the US has killed way more Iraqi civilians than Saddam ever did. I'm not taking up for the man, I guess I just have issue with anyone making a spectacle of someones death. Regardless of who.

[Brett]

Dude, with all due respect, the US has killed way more Iraqi civilians than Saddam ever did.

Incorrect. The deaths coming to civilians now are from insurgants blowing civilians up, We arent doing that. Saddam was killing people for 15+ years, I cant see how you think in 2 years we have killed more then he did during his regime. He killed them on the 10,000+ numbers.

[jon360]

I say find OSAMA BIN LADEN and hang em both!

[{X}Echo419]

How many think it should be on TV? Or even a Pay-Per-View event? Think of the cash that could be made. They are deciding if his hanging will be private or public, if its public I think we need to all watch it live.

it would be the single largest television event in the History of the WORLD! or like super popular on youtube.com :2cents: :cheers:

[RandomGuy]

i was gonna argue in this thread but i see hvy arms took care of it... he's right for the most part... Saddam actually wasn't that bad of a guy, and he wasn't even THAT TERRIBLE as a leader, of course he was mad indulgent, etc... but as far as the country goes he wasnt bad (NOT ACCORDING TO THE NEWS) The "genocide" he committed when he gassed those ppl was to save his own ass as they were conspiring to overthrow him... Shit...

half of you are bandwagoning it... the other half are just misinformed/ watch the "fair and balanced" news too much.

Anyways ... I think its wrong but I WOULD want to see it haha just bc i'm a sick ass mofo.

[Kyle]

I would go to hooters to watch it. I am too cheap for PPV. That would be awesome though.

[Z32redondo]

I mean think about it, Uts so humane to kill somone by lethal injection. So why give them that? Did they give the people they killed a humane way to die? Hell no!! EYE FOR AN EYE!!! I say we execute people the way the kill thier victims, but slower and on TV :D

Not a possibility. The reason why we have the death penalty is to get rid of a "monster" I guess you could call it. So if we killed that person the same way he killed, then whoever had toi kill him would be no less a monster than he is. Am I correct.

Example. Say one man takes another man he is angry at and ties him to the back of his truck and drags him through the desert and kills him. And say he gets the death penalty for it. Now the reason he got the death penalty was for the crime he committed and for being an unsafe person. Now if he was killed in the same way, the person driving the car would be the same thing he is...a monster. Just my :2cents:

[{X}Echo419]

i was gonna argue in this thread but i see hvy arms took care of it... he's right for the most part... Saddam actually wasn't that bad of a guy, and he wasn't even THAT TERRIBLE as a leader, of course he was mad indulgent, etc... but as far as the country goes he wasnt bad (NOT ACCORDING TO THE NEWS) The "genocide" he committed when he gassed those ppl was to save his own ass as they were conspiring to overthrow him... Shit...

half of you are bandwagoning it... the other half are just misinformed/ watch the "fair and balanced" news too much.

Anyways ... I think its wrong but I WOULD want to see it haha just bc i'm a sick ass mofo.
:umno: :liar: :stupid:

[AE86 Dorifto]

Saddam actually wasn't that bad of a guy, and he wasn't even THAT TERRIBLE as a leader, of course he was mad indulgent, etc... but as far as the country goes he wasnt bad (NOT ACCORDING TO THE NEWS) The "genocide" he committed when he gassed those ppl was to save his own ass as they were conspiring to overthrow him... Shit...


Hmm....... I can't tell if you're joking or just a dumbass........ That's why he set up torture rooms to kill people in the least humane way possible and raped women. He just wanted to save his own ass. Right?

[2.3 Evo 8]

I wouldn't waste the money or my time. I have better things to do.

[Brett]

Not a possibility. The reason why we have the death penalty is to get rid of a "monster" I guess you could call it. So if we killed that person the same way he killed, then whoever had toi kill him would be no less a monster than he is. Am I correct.

Example. Say one man takes another man he is angry at and ties him to the back of his truck and drags him through the desert and kills him. And say he gets the death penalty for it. Now the reason he got the death penalty was for the crime he committed and for being an unsafe person. Now if he was killed in the same way, the person driving the car would be the same thing he is...a monster. Just my :2cents:

Well damn you took all the fun out of my idea!! LOL

So are you saying the person who pulls the switch on the chair is a monster? Or the guy who gives the lethal injection? Killing someone on death row is giving them payback for what they did, so why should it be so humane and pain free when the ones they killed didnt get that respect? Ya see this is why we have so many killers, etc on the loose, they have no fear of what will happen when they get caught.

[Tasuki_Civic]

i was gonna argue in this thread but i see hvy arms took care of it... he's right for the most part... Saddam actually wasn't that bad of a guy, and he wasn't even THAT TERRIBLE as a leader, of course he was mad indulgent, etc... but as far as the country goes he wasnt bad (NOT ACCORDING TO THE NEWS) The "genocide" he committed when he gassed those ppl was to save his own ass as they were conspiring to overthrow him... Shit...

half of you are bandwagoning it... the other half are just misinformed/ watch the "fair and balanced" news too much.

Anyways ... I think its wrong but I WOULD want to see it haha just bc i'm a sick ass mofo.
....

[Tasuki_Civic]

correction ? was it his government that tried him not ours? so that means they can do whatver they decied to do with him anyway. his pple cant let him go he still has followers and shit so i assume its either he dies or rots ( sad to say in a way)

i wouldnt watch it. i think its stupid to put it public...pple freak out about one fuckin titty showin to the world for an actual second. why is it NOT inappropriate to broadcast someones death? i think america is twisted in many way. but "ITS THE AMERICAN WAY"

[RandomGuy]

Hmm....... I can't tell if you're joking or just a dumbass........ That's why he set up torture rooms to kill people in the least humane way possible and raped women. He just wanted to save his own ass. Right?
shut the fuck up... its you who doesnt know wtf is in the koolaid.

while on the subject of torture, um... Is it any different from what the US is doing right now? Blatant disregard of the Geneva Conventions.
The Fuckin US is outsourcing torture work. Like last year when the US kidnapped that one canadian mofo who had a stop in NY on one of his flights, sent him to some Middle Eastern Country like Jordan or Turkey to be tortured/interrogated..
Our own civil rights are being fuckin intruded upon.
The CIA does the same with fuckin "black sites" little depots where they send people in, FUCK THEM UP FAR WORSE THAN SADDAM EVER DID, and to a much larger scale.... and if they survive and no more answers can come about, kill them.... or they're probably still detained if they survive.... But of course you wont find this on your Fox News.
Then you wanna talk about hanging Saddam for "torture"... .Wtf? If that was the case, then I bet all of the high ranking players in our very own gov't would be gone.... as well as the shadow gov't too.

The fuckin rendition policy by far pwns All of Saddams wrong doings.

[§treet_§peed]

i want front row seats hell i would try to video tape it as well

[{X}Echo419]

i want front row seats hell i would try to video tape it as well
and after he's hung Gallager can smash his head with the Sledge-O-Matic and we can cover up with sheets of plastic :lmfao: :cheers:

[Brett]

and after he's hung Gallager can smash his head with the Sledge-O-Matic and we can cover up with sheets of plastic :lmfao: :cheers:

Now that cracked my ass up

[civic95]

It should be pay-per-view, and all the proceeds should go to the children of soldiers killed in Iraq

[~The_Duke~]

HELL YESS!!!!

[Brett]

It should be pay-per-view, and all the proceeds should go to the children of soldiers killed in Iraq

Even better idea

[2.0civic]

damn i didnt think this would get this long

[{X}Echo419]

damn i didnt think this would get this long
That's what She said! :lmfao:

[Maniaç]

Kill that BIATCH!

[DrivenMind]

I'd rather not watch it, but who knows.

[§treet_§peed]

after i video tape it from the front row imma make bootleg copies of it and sell it on ebay

[TransAmWS6]

i thkn we should keep him alive and torture the crap out of him

blowtorch and plyers come to mind

[CopyRight]

I agree with transam....why kill him? he's old...you just put him in a cell deep underground and never let him see the light of day in a small padded room and it won't take long for him to go insane and start eating his own poop.

[HEATON]

Well the fact is, we should have no say what so ever in how or where he dies. Yes we found him, but trying to build a govt over there is our goal, and by letting their courts trial him, we also should let them do their own means of capital punishment. But on saying that making it public and hanging or fire line would be nice for our American egos, but it wouldnt make the smartest strategic standpoint. A open air in public killing wold just bring mass hysteria and give the Taliban or any terror group to much of a easy target. So honestly lethal injection in a secured chamber or hold cell, would be the best thing. Also by lethal injection it would somewhat show the world that they are moving on with society and not backwards, since it is more seen as humane and "just"

[{X}Echo419]

Well the fact is, we should have no say what so ever in how or where he dies. Yes we found him, but trying to build a govt over there is our goal, and by letting their courts trial him, we also should let them do their own means of capital punishment. But on saying that making it public and hanging or fire line would be nice for our American egos, but it wouldnt make the smartest strategic standpoint. A open air in public killing wold just bring mass hysteria and give the Taliban or any terror group to much of a easy target. So honestly lethal injection in a secured chamber or hold cell, would be the best thing. Also by lethal injection it would somewhat show the world that they are moving on with society and not backwards, since it is more seen as humane and "just"
I don't think we could make the "Taliban" or "Al-Quedia" hate us anymore. they already want to wipe out western culture and make islam the 1 world religon/law. :2cents:

[CopyRight]

Well the fact is, we should have no say what so ever in how or where he dies. Yes we found him, but trying to build a govt over there is our goal, and by letting their courts trial him, we also should let them do their own means of capital punishment. But on saying that making it public and hanging or fire line would be nice for our American egos, but it wouldnt make the smartest strategic standpoint. A open air in public killing wold just bring mass hysteria and give the Taliban or any terror group to much of a easy target. So honestly lethal injection in a secured chamber or hold cell, would be the best thing. Also by lethal injection it would somewhat show the world that they are moving on with society and not backwards, since it is more seen as humane and "just"


you do realize you said we should let the iraqi govt handle this and do their form of capital punishment, and then you say they are moving backwards by not doing a more updated form of capital punishment.


The Iraqi govt should use any form of capital punishment they wish...we would only fuel more fire telling them how to kill someone....

seriously though, give it a day or two and you'll have americans who will protest Saddam's death saying it's cruel and inhumane....that's why I hate freedom of speech sometimes, even the idiots are allowed to talk....

[Brett]

that's why I hate freedom of speech sometimes, even the idiots are allowed to talk....

Thats the downside

[HEATON]

you do realize you said we should let the iraqi govt handle this and do their form of capital punishment, and then you say they are moving backwards by not doing a more updated form of capital punishment.


The Iraqi govt should use any form of capital punishment they wish...we would only fuel more fire telling them how to kill someone....

seriously though, give it a day or two and you'll have americans who will protest Saddam's death saying it's cruel and inhumane....that's why I hate freedom of speech sometimes, even the idiots are allowed to talk....

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote correctly.. Yes I said, let them handle it, but I also said it would be BEST, I didnt say we decide for them how to kill him, I said BEST for Lethal Injection bc it would show them as MOVING ONWARD in society, bc it seems more humane.. If you have looked at other killings in that area IN THE PAST alot of them have been hangings from goalpost or shootings at public football games (soccer)..

Also, to the other post, I never said it would anger them more, I said it would give them an easier target if it was outside in a public area to attack. Yes I understand how badly they hate us already, trust me I have seen the bodies that come back from the desert almost everyweek for the last two years. Good point bringin up how they want Islam to take over the western culture. But they not only want the western side but all of the world, bc since it is religious for them, they will not win until all have converted.

[CopyRight]

Apparently you didn't read what I wrote correctly.. Yes I said, let them handle it, but I also said it would be BEST, I didnt say we decide for them how to kill him, I said BEST for Lethal Injection bc it would show them as MOVING ONWARD in society, bc it seems more humane.. If you have looked at other killings in that area IN THE PAST alot of them have been hangings from goalpost or shootings at public football games (soccer)..

Also, to the other post, I never said it would anger them more, I said it would give them an easier target if it was outside in a public area to attack. Yes I understand how badly they hate us already, trust me I have seen the bodies that come back from the desert almost everyweek for the last two years. Good point bringin up how they want Islam to take over the western culture. But they not only want the western side but all of the world, bc since it is religious for them, they will not win until all have converted.


who's to say how far behind or ahead they are on society? alot of people need to realize that we are not always right about everything...I mean...apparently Japan has technology on better lock down than the US in electronics and automobiles....China has always had a better black market than the US ever will, India has figured out to restructure and capitalize on outsourcing inexpensive labor...to say that we are far superior in culture or social status than any country is absurd, which alot of americans do...in some sense we are more messed up than some of the countries we provide aid for.

[HEATON]

who's to say how far behind or ahead they are on society? alot of people need to realize that we are not always right about everything...I mean...apparently Japan has technology on better lock down than the US in electronics and automobiles....China has always had a better black market than the US ever will, India has figured out to restructure and capitalize on outsourcing inexpensive labor...to say that we are far superior in culture or social status than any country is absurd, which alot of americans do...in some sense we are more messed up than some of the countries we provide aid for.


Ok for the 3rd time.. Pay attentin.. get this thru your skull..................

Ready? ready you sure??? Okay.. Here it goes..

LETHAL INJECTION = MORE HUMANE.. MORE HUMANE= MORE CIVILIZED....

In conclusion... No one (yes I said no one!!) can argue that Giving someone a shot, that ends all nervous systems then kills someone (AKA Lethal Injection) is NOT more advance as far as capital punishment then Hanging them from a post in a crowded arena during halftime of a soccer game, and shooting them (after they have choked to death) with a AK47 several times!!!

Now to correct you on the rest of your post.. Korea has WAY more technological advances then Japan, here is actually where the majority of electronics are invented then (since it is cheaper) are produced in Japan/China... Better Black market? Umm A blackmarket isnt really a good thing, all that brings is more room for mafia and gang warfare bc of trying to smuggle and produce goods. India.. Outsourcing inexpensive labor? Actually it is Us as Americans are the ones outsourcing the labor to INDIA, Have you called any major company lately? Have you notice the phone rings to someone in INDIA?

C'mon now. Have you actually ever seen any part of the world?

[CopyRight]

Ok for the 3rd time.. Pay attentin.. get this thru your skull..................

Ready? ready you sure??? Okay.. Here it goes..

LETHAL INJECTION = MORE HUMANE.. MORE HUMANE= MORE CIVILIZED....

In conclusion... No one (yes I said no one!!) can argue that Giving someone a shot, that ends all nervous systems then kills someone (AKA Lethal Injection) is NOT more advance as far as capital punishment then Hanging them from a post in a crowded arena during halftime of a soccer game, and shooting them (after they have choked to death) with a AK47 several times!!!

Now to correct you on the rest of your post.. Korea has WAY more technological advances then Japan, here is actually where the majority of electronics are invented then (since it is cheaper) are produced in Japan/China... Better Black market? Umm A blackmarket isnt really a good thing, all that brings is more room for mafia and gang warfare bc of trying to smuggle and produce goods. India.. Outsourcing inexpensive labor? Actually it is Us as Americans are the ones outsourcing the labor to INDIA, Have you called any major company lately? Have you notice the phone rings to someone in INDIA?

C'mon now. Have you actually ever seen any part of the world?


lol...my favorite part is you act like you know the world better than anyone else....I've seen more of this world than you can possibly ever know, Africa, pretty much all of Asia, all of Europe, oh yeah....middle east...seen it.

You wanna bet someone will not argue over lethal injection? do you not watch ANY tv? anytime there is a execution with lethal injection, there are MASSES of people protesting outside about lethal injection

Again....who are you to judge what is more humane and more civil? what gives you or anybody ANY right to judge how another country does capital punishment? GET THAT THRU YOUR HEAD. Saddam actually request to be shot by firing squad...do you hear that....he REQUESTED it....because it's somewhat of a more respectable way to die in Iraq for a military figure, than let's say hanging...but he's not gonna get it.

Korea is more advanced than Japan? Hey bro, I know you are stationed there and all but you are seriously misguided on who is still a technological icon and has a higher status....

here, let's compare....

Toyota vs Hyundai ....Toyota, oh that's right...they created the hybrid motor that can actually produce higher hp output and enviromental friendly and 30+mpg
Sony vs Daewoo ....Sony...yeah....computers, laptops, tv's, dvd's, blu ray...I mean Daewoo is ontop of all of that :rolleyes:

I forget, aren't you enlisted air force?

[HvyArms]

Incorrect. The deaths coming to civilians now are from insurgants blowing civilians up, We arent doing that. Saddam was killing people for 15+ years, I cant see how you think in 2 years we have killed more then he did during his regime. He killed them on the 10,000+ numbers.


Although Cheney said shortly after the 1991 Gulf War that "we have no way of knowing precisely how many casualties occurred" during the fighting "and may never know," Daponte had estimated otherwise: 13,000 civilians were killed directly by American and allied forces, and about 70,000 civilians died subsequently from war-related damage to medical facilities and supplies, the electric power grid, and the water system, she calculated.

In all, 40,000 Iraqi soldiers were killed in the conflict, putting total Iraqi losses from the war and its aftermath at 158,000, including 86,194 men, 39,612 women, and 32,195 children


These figures just include the number of Iraqi's killed after the Gulf War. It doesnt include the hundreds of thousands who have starved to death since the Gulf War ended because of Sanctions put on their country by Bush Sr. Also, this number doesnt include the current Iraqi death toll because the war is still going. You think rebel car bombs kill more people than cluster bombs? Please

[P. A.]

Although Cheney said shortly after the 1991 Gulf War that "we have no way of knowing precisely how many casualties occurred" during the fighting "and may never know," Daponte had estimated otherwise: 13,000 civilians were killed directly by American and allied forces, and about 70,000 civilians died subsequently from war-related damage to medical facilities and supplies, the electric power grid, and the water system, she calculated.

In all, 40,000 Iraqi soldiers were killed in the conflict, she concluded, putting total Iraqi losses from the war and its aftermath at 158,000, including 86,194 men, 39,612 women, and 32,195 children


These figure just include the number of Iraqi's killed after the Gulf War. It doesnt include the hundreds of thousands who have starved to death since the Gulf War ended because of Sanctions put on their country by Bush Sr. Also, this number doesnt include the current Iraqi death toll because the war is still going. You think rebel car bombs kill more people than cluster bombs? Please


Damn!! thats pretty sad...

[{X}Echo419]

who's to say how far behind or ahead they are on society? alot of people need to realize that we are not always right about everything...I mean...apparently Japan has technology on better lock down than the US in electronics and automobiles....China has always had a better black market than the US ever will, India has figured out to restructure and capitalize on outsourcing inexpensive labor...to say that we are far superior in culture or social status than any country is absurd, which alot of americans do...in some sense we are more messed up than some of the countries we provide aid for.

dude, China is Communist! it wasn't until recently that the gov't allowed people to own their own businesses. so by default their "black market" has to be "better". however you quantify that. :screwy: