Best lyrical / battle MC?

[Big Rick]

Ok for a while now me and a friend been having a debate on great lyricist. lil wayne or black thought of The roots. which is a better lyrical / battle Mc? saying both are at there prime in there careers and please explain why you choose who you do. I won't say which i choose of the two. and yes of corse there are better peeps out there but these are the 2 choices. compare and explain which is better. If you don't know of either 1 please don't bother to post.

include ur own if u want.

[Bballjamal]

lol lol lol

There are some WAYYY nastier cats than anyone mainstream that I know of! I feel retarded not knowing all of them by heart, name wise, but I do know one is named Northern magician and he's nasty as FOCK! When I first heard his name I was like, o, they're gunna rip on that shit but he was stupid the entire time. I think he lives in Paris now but he grew up in Philly/NY....

Edit: Obviously I have my own and I'm sure others will too, but out of the two names......

Lil Wayne< Black Thought

Wayne doesn't even get on the same level as him

[Big Rick]

lol lol lol

There are some WAYYY nastier cats than anyone mainstream that I know of! I feel retarded not knowing all of them by heart, name wise, but I do know one is named Northern magician and he's nasty as FOCK! When I first heard his name I was like, o, they're gunna rip on that shit but he was stupid the entire time. I think he lives in Paris now but he grew up in Philly/NY....

Edit: Obviously I have my own and I'm sure others will too, but out of the two names......

Lil Wayne< Black Thought

Wayne doesn't even get on the same level as him

thanks for the post bro, i'll give it 24 hours before i say who's side i'm on.

[Nomad!]

Black Thought BLAZES Lil' Wayne!!!

Catch The Roots live and you quickly learn why.

[13Bracer]

PAPOOSE FTMFW!!!!!!!!

that is all

[toonz]

this can't even be considered a battle

[PhAtBoYMr2]

Can't belive you haven't bought the whiteboy into play, but eminem would run circles around these cats.

[HvyArms]

I didnt read the whole thread, wanna fight about it? I just wanna know, were you and your boy free-basing when you decided to compare Lil Wayne and BlackThought? WTF?

\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/



You LIL niggaz ain't deep you dumb, you niggaz ain't gangsta you gum, I chew LIL niggaz
hock-too, spew LIL niggaz, I can only view LIL niggaz like LIL niggaz
but in lieu of LIL niggaz trying to play that boy, I phew phew LIL niggaz with the latest toy
unlike you LIL nigga, I'm a grown ass man, big shoes to fill nigga, grown ass pants
prolly hustled with your pops, go ask your parents its apparent you're staring at a legend
who, put a few LIL niggaz in the they place before trying to eat without saying they grace before
blasphemous ass will get your faith restored y'all viewing y'all version of the lord god
mc LIL nigga, applaud, or forever burn in the fire that I spit at y'all I rebuke you LIL nigga
the meek shall parish, ill roof you LIL nigga, Im a project terrorist, cute you LIL niggaz
think you in my class subsitute LIL niggaz soon feel my wrath, I mute you LIL nigga
you a little nigga, I'll child abuse you LIL nigga, I'm a ill nigga, now shoot you LIL nigga
go somewhere and play, cuz the day I loose to you LIL niggaz, no day

[quickdodge®]

include ur own if u want.

Gonna have to go with QD. That muthafucca brings mega-strokes to the screen at any given moment. Later, QD.

[HvyArms]

Gonna have to go with QD. That muthafucca brings mega-strokes to the screen at any given moment. Later, QD.

You spit? I'll battle you, not on the net though. In person

[mp5o]

Can't belive you haven't bought the whiteboy into play, but eminem would run circles around these cats.

Exactly what I was thinking...

[quickdodge®]

You spit? I'll battle you, not on the net though. In person

Nope. I'm a keystylist. Lolol. Later, QD.

[GIXXERDK]

The great lyricists arnt even singers/rappers themselves, they write for them.

[quickdodge®]

^^^ A lot you know. Later, QD.

[ksinao]

plies. hands down

i got niggas thats locked up that need lawyers
if i can't make that happen then i ain't really for them
it'll run ya 50 stacks or better fucking with murder charges
and a lawyer will want half of that before he even gets started
and if it breaks me, then fuck it, i kept it real
i'm gonna keep grindin' so my niggas can keep callin'
im still thuggin' and keeping it real in the process
i'll be the first nigga to make a million and still have his hood respect

[Nomad!]

Can't belive you haven't bought the whiteboy into play, but eminem would run circles around these cats.
I like EM but, after seeing & hearing both of them live & in battle mode, I have to go with Black Thought. He is, without a doubt, one of the illest most under-rated lyricist out there.

[bigdare23]

battle rapper gotta be cassidy

[PhAtBoYMr2]

Never heard this black thought cat, anyone got any mixtapes or anything?? im looking for some right now

[nightracer]

I didnt read the whole thread, wanna fight about it? I just wanna know, were you and your boy free-basing when you decided to compare Lil Wayne and BlackThought? WTF?

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You LIL niggaz ain't deep you dumb, you niggaz ain't gangsta you gum, I chew LIL niggaz
hock-too, spew LIL niggaz, I can only view LIL niggaz like LIL niggaz
but in lieu of LIL niggaz trying to play that boy, I phew phew LIL niggaz with the latest toy
unlike you LIL nigga, I'm a grown ass man, big shoes to fill nigga, grown ass pants
prolly hustled with your pops, go ask your parents its apparent you're staring at a legend
who, put a few LIL niggaz in the they place before trying to eat without saying they grace before
blasphemous ass will get your faith restored y'all viewing y'all version of the lord god
mc LIL nigga, applaud, or forever burn in the fire that I spit at y'all I rebuke you LIL nigga
the meek shall parish, ill roof you LIL nigga, Im a project terrorist, cute you LIL niggaz
think you in my class subsitute LIL niggaz soon feel my wrath, I mute you LIL nigga
you a little nigga, I'll child abuse you LIL nigga, I'm a ill nigga, now shoot you LIL nigga
go somewhere and play, cuz the day I loose to you LIL niggaz, no day
Jay-z copied that shit on his latest album that MF'er steals every rap he writes.

[Julio]

bhwhahah @ lil wayne...

some had there prime.. going back to the KRS ONE days and so on...

I mean, canibus.. killed LL cool J.. DRE vs EASY, Pac vs biggie.. JAY vz Mobb deep.. 50 vs everyone.... I think all had some hot songs.. to many to list...

I think ETHER was more then likely one of the BEST written disses ever.. But there 100's of hot songs.....

[Julio]

Ether"

[gunshots]

[Nas talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talkin 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waitin
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilege
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these niggas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all faggots, y'all kneel and kiss the fuckin ring

[Chorus]

I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and fogotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly actin, envy hidin snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep callin, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it niggas

[Chorus]

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watchin his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissin women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was gettin chased through your buildin
Callin my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smilin in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearin Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hangin with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockafeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you gettin girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache havin, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hangin with Caine, to Herb, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-ridin faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shawn Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's gettin gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gon' come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss

[soul]

Immortal technique

[Big Rick]

bhwhahah @ lil wayne...

some had there prime.. going back to the KRS ONE days and so on...

I mean, canibus.. killed LL cool J.. DRE vs EASY, Pac vs biggie.. JAY vz Mobb deep.. 50 vs everyone.... I think all had some hot songs.. to many to list...

I think ETHER was more then likely one of the BEST written disses ever.. But there 100's of hot songs.....

i think rap has gotten shity with the excemption of a few rappers, the beats have gotten better since back in the day but shit is all commerical now.

[Big Rick]

i'm glad we all agree on 1 thing, lil wayne sucks, hahaha

[LS2ner]

Since HvyArms is challening you QD, is it time for another freestyle tournament?

[quickdodge®]

Since HvyArms is challening you QD, is it time for another freestyle tournament?

He's challenging me in a real freestyle, not a keystyle. But I'm up for the keystyle. Lolol. Later, QD.

[LS2ner]

Oh, i misread. Maybe we can convince him to keystyle battle you. Then he will know why you hold (of held) the title.

[Greddypacked]

oooh a mc battle. Do it at that club in Buckhead during open mic.

[LS2ner]

It was established a long time ago that we only battle here. No in person shit.