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DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 09:51 AM
heres the scoop i have a 90 dx hb with a D16a6 swap , it will not start , the starter is spinnin and the motor is turnin ( turnin kinda slower than normal) these are the things i have checked and replaced

1. new battery
2. new fuel filter
3. new fpr
4. new spark plugs and wires
5. new injectors


things i have checked

1. fuel pump is comin on
2. fuel filter is fillin up and seems to have pressure
3. all injectors are not gettin power
4. i am gettin spark to all 4 plugs
5. ecu is spittin out no codes
6. i sprayed a little bit of starter fluid in the intake and it goes to start but quickly stalls out
7.timin belt still attached ( replaced less than 2 months ago)
i am really pushin towards a fuel issue , but am now at a loss for what to do!
i gotta get this runnin today or tues. or wed. of next week , any one in gwinnett willin to come out and help me trouble shoot this , i'll buy lunch and beer!:cheers: :goodjob:

drmcivicsi
12-23-2006, 09:57 AM
have u tryed to push start it ? and see if it starts up ?

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 09:58 AM
scared to do it , incase it dont start and it gets stuck down the street

mx34life
12-23-2006, 10:17 AM
have you looked at the timing to if it might have jump time maybe??

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 10:26 AM
thats a possibility , but i dont have the extra hands to correct it

mx34life
12-23-2006, 10:43 AM
its not that hard just make sure the cam say UP and rotate crankpulley to TDC . another way to see is take the #1plug out and look to see if the piston is at the top

mx34life
12-23-2006, 10:44 AM
OH just one hand will do

ranj
12-23-2006, 11:47 AM
yeah its really simple, the timeing belt will slip off the cam with a little bit of hard pulling. i got it done when i corrected the timing on my car.
G/L with it.

2.0civic
12-23-2006, 12:02 PM
main fuel relay?? those are notorious on ef's...mine went through three.


sounds liek it could be an issue possibly.


look under your dash on the left side and you will see a little black box...bang it a little and sometimes it will connect and start up...

good luck

2.0civic
12-23-2006, 12:03 PM
i get off at four...where in gwinnett do you live? pm me a location and ill see about dropping by

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 01:43 PM
i just went and did a little more diggin around under the hood and found out my cam timin is off , problem is i have a compresser but no air gun!:thinking: :(

2.0civic
12-23-2006, 01:58 PM
WHY DO YOU NEED AN AIRGUN?? TAKING OFF THE PULLEY?

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 02:02 PM
yep , unless there is an easier way

95droppedhatch
12-23-2006, 03:00 PM
you do not have to take the pulley off just slip the timing belt off set the #1 cyclinder TDC put the cam gear on time and put the timing belt back on

OG-Skinny
12-23-2006, 03:20 PM
What did you do before it wouldn't start..

I suspect one of two things..
1. ICM in the dizzy is bad.
2. Check to see if the injectors are actually pulsing (use a screw driver to hear them click when turning the car over.)

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 03:39 PM
the only thing i did b4 it wouldnt start was driveto my girls house , then went out to start it and it never started again

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 03:40 PM
how can i check the injectors if i have no one here

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 03:59 PM
you do not have to take the pulley off just slip the timing belt off set the #1 cyclinder TDC put the cam gear on time and put the timing belt back on could you please elaborate on this a little more

DrunkScotsman
12-23-2006, 05:59 PM
this is my last post for the nite , no internet acess til tomorrow mornin , offer still stands , lunch and beer for some help, i'll be home in the mornin , pm if ya can help , i'll respond as soon as i can , thanx again!

Jecht
12-23-2006, 08:17 PM
main fuel relay?? those are notorious on ef's...mine went through three.


sounds liek it could be an issue possibly.


look under your dash on the left side and you will see a little black box...bang it a little and sometimes it will connect and start up...

good luck

I hate the fuel relays. lol I keep having problems with the relay in my car, but nobody has a replacement one. It will work if I take it out and shake it a little though. haha

Drunk.scotsm, I don't have any advice, but I wish you good luck. Get it fixed!

ranj
12-23-2006, 09:30 PM
its very simple look at the timing belt on the cam.
when you see it, start pulling at it with ur fingers, or get a flat head scewdriver and push it out (but be very careful not to damage ur timing belt)
correct the timing,
and slip it back on.

also after you take the timing belt off the cam, it would be a good idea to have a string or something and tie it up to something so it doesn't lose its grip on the bottom.

its really very easy.

ranj
12-23-2006, 09:31 PM
also make sure its at TDC and then correct the cam to where the up arrow is pointing up.

2.0civic
12-23-2006, 10:18 PM
hey man, give me a call in the morning whenever you get this and ill come over and try to help.

ranj
12-23-2006, 10:26 PM
hey man, give me a call in the morning whenever you get this and ill come over and try to help.
nice guy

DrunkScotsman
12-24-2006, 05:55 PM
cam timin is rite now , still no start , i am not gettin power to my injectors:thinking:

toonz
12-24-2006, 06:10 PM
Whatta nice guy you are B18hatch LOL but lets make one thing clear don't bump heads with him LOL trust me

mx34life
12-24-2006, 10:29 PM
now make sure your bottom end is timed right and it might start

OG-Skinny
12-24-2006, 11:11 PM
jesus.. check the ecu fuse. It's something electrical.

Mechanical timing can't just jump time from sitting.

DrunkScotsman
12-26-2006, 10:51 AM
i have checked all fuses , under dash and under hood , i am not gettin power to my injectors , i am at a loss again and need to get this fixed in the next day or two , plz help!

DrunkScotsman
12-26-2006, 04:38 PM
bump!

fade2blk500
12-26-2006, 05:49 PM
my car did that one time, sounded like it wanted to start, made a little poppop like it was going to. I replaced the distributor with a used junkyard one. Started right up haven't had a problem since.

DrunkScotsman
12-27-2006, 06:47 AM
mornin bump! gotta get my shit runnin!

DrunkScotsman
12-27-2006, 06:34 PM
n-e 1????????? help!

Turbodude06
12-27-2006, 08:53 PM
Are you getting power to your fuel pump?

Turbodude06
12-27-2006, 08:54 PM
does it do anything, like turn over and just won't start, or is it not starting at all? Need more info...