DB8-2NVY....BAD/LIAR!!!!!!!!

[SL33P3R]

Well it started a while back, took my car to my buddies house, andrew was gonna do some work on it. I traded andrew my full race t3/t67 turbo for his precision sc34 turbo that he had. So i leave my buddies house and i get a phone call that my turbo is gone and so is my wastegate, no one knows where it is etc. so then, i find out that from someone that they saw andrew take the turbo out of the seat in my car and put it back in his car, so basically he got 2 turbos off the deal.

continued: He was supposed to put crower 404 cams in the head that i had that he was assembling for me. He showed me the cams and i said " I thought crower cams say crower on the side" and he said "Some of them do, but these dont" so i said ok, and i trusted him. Found out, i sold my head to a guy in indiana and it DIDNT have crower 404 cams in it. They were stock LS cams:eek: . So i had to pay the guy 400 bucks for the cams because they were stock LS and he sent me my cams and cam gears back, so i got fucked there also

AGAIN- I gave andrew all the parts to put my head together, along with my strut bar, but all of a sudden my strut bar became missing and he didnt bother looking for it or trying to help me find it or nothing. and all of a sudden he has a chrome skunk2 strut bar (just like mine) on his car, and he swears up and down taht his wife bought it for him (He says his wife is LILPAKI on the forums, but i asked her brother, and thats ANOTHER lie to add to the list, hahahha)

AGAIN- so my buddy whos house my car was at had to get me a new wg and turbo because he felt responsible, so he did. ANDREW told my buddy that he had a gt30r turbo that he would sell him for cheap. I get there to go get it with my buddy, and its some biagio bullshit turbo. and its fuckin huge, it WASNT a gt30r it was a GT35, non ball bearing biagio turbo, so its a big turbo and was a piece of shit.

So basically, andrew will act like he is really honest and that hes here to help you, but hes not, he will fuck you over, you will lose parts out the ass and you will see that half the parts on ur motor will be missing after his work is done

[SL33P3R]

also, when i called him to tell him taht the cams werent 404's and that i had to pay the guy 400 bucks, i havent heard from him since, no PMs no phone calls no text messages, he know he fucked me over, and that i finally found out that it was him the whole time

[crxtreme2o3]

ya...he used to steal parts from the old shop i used to work at

[Annihilation]

(He says his wife is LILPAKI on the forums, but i asked her brother, and thats ANOTHER lie to add to the list, hahahha)




WTF.....lol thats some BS there..................wtf....lol

[SL33P3R]

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Also, the turbo i traded him was in PERFECT condition, I bought it from spoolin, sold it to mike at mainstream, then bought it back from mike at mainstream then traded with andrew. ME AND MIKE FROM MAINSTEAM NEVER USED THE TURBO, IT SAT AT MY ROOM AND SAT ON HIS TOOL BOX, spoolin was the last to use it and it never dripped oil, him and maisntream can vouch for it, but all of a sudden andrew said the turbo was blown and wanted me to get him a new turbo. then he wanted mike to buy him a new turbo becasue it was mikes fault, it wasnt no ones fault, he blew the turbo becasue he ran it on his car. AND HE TRIED TO SELL THAT TURBO ON THIS FORUM SAYING IT WAS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION AND IT WAS BLOWN!!!!!

[SL33P3R]

Oh ya, and supposidly his car put down 813WHP @38psi with a t3/t67 turbo:rolleyes:

[IntegraXTR]

damn dude, you're just having mad problems with people on this board.

[thepolecat]

Oh my- this is bad. Some serious shat. I'm interrested to see what the other parties have to say.

[IntegraXTR]

well from my experience with andrew, he is a good seller/buyer, I've done business with him before and he was a stand up guy. And as far as the hp#'s, not sure about that but I do know his is over 500whp.

[SL33P3R]

Ya, Andrew will act REALLY nice to you when you hang around him, then hes really shady and takes yours shit, he knows he did it too, normally when i call, he will answer in like the first 4 rings, and now i left him a message tellin him that they were 404's and hes ignorin me. I know hes in FL right now, but last time i checked phones worked in florida, and i also called him before he left to go to FL, and no answer, hes a NICE SCAMMER, acts nice and steals your shit

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

who is andrew?

S/N on IA

[IntegraXTR]

^^^lol, his sn is in the title of this thread (DB8-2NVY)

[ORGANIZATIONXIII]

lol.. I know, I just NOTICED that

[IntegraXTR]

speaking of which, love the sig man, except the 3rd pic....

[SL33P3R]

Hes in the thread lookin......:ninja:

[soplocar]

ANDREW is my hommie and boy you are in some serious shat!!!
1. I have the t3/t67, the SC34 turbo was mine. if he had took it, i would have already known.
2. The t3/t67 is good, i took it to diesel injec. in forrest park, and its good, it was my fault, the oil was coming from the head. i take the blame on that!!!
3. he aint picking up your calls because hes busy on a work assignment in FL, and also the same reason that MR. KIDD dont wanna talk to you!
4. he never ran the t67 turbo, it has always been in my possesion.
5. his car is not tunned yet, but you rode in it, you know what it can do.
6. the skunk2 strut bar.... we bought it at nopi, do u want a receipt??? i'll give it to you.
7. the biaggio turbo was Angels, not andrew's if you had problems with it, take it to Angel straight up.

so far thats all i have to say!

[SL33P3R]

ok then WHERE IS MY STRUT BAR? I PERSONALLY PUT IT IN THE BACK OF THE MATRIX. AND WHEN I ASKED WHERE IT WAS HE WAS LIKE " I dont know"

[IntegraXTR]

ANDREW is my hommie and boy you are in some serious shat!!!
1. I have the t3/t67, the SC34 turbo was mine. if he had took it, i would have already known.
2. The t3/t67 is good, i took it to diesel injec. in forrest park, and its good, it was my fault, the oil was coming from the head. i take the blame on that!!!
3. he aint picking up your calls because hes busy on a work assignment if FL, and also the same reason that MR. KIDD dont wanna talk to you!
4. he never ran the t67 turbo, it has always been in my possesion.
5. his car is not tunned yet, but you rode in it, you know what it can do.
6. the skunk2 strut bar.... we bought it at nopi, do u want a receipt??? i'll give it to you.
7. the biaggio turbo was Angels, not andrew's if you had problems with it, take it to Angel straight up.

so far thats all i have to say!

now this is just plain out confusing.....what about the 404 cams?

[SL33P3R]

ANDREW is my hommie and boy you are in some serious shat!!!
1. I have the t3/t67, the SC34 turbo was mine. if he had took it, i would have already known.
2. The t3/t67 is good, i took it to diesel injec. in forrest park, and its good, it was my fault, the oil was coming from the head. i take the blame on that!!!
3. he aint picking up your calls because hes busy on a work assignment in FL, and also the same reason that MR. KIDD dont wanna talk to you!
4. he never ran the t67 turbo, it has always been in my possesion.
5. his car is not tunned yet, but you rode in it, you know what it can do.
6. the skunk2 strut bar.... we bought it at nopi, do u want a receipt??? i'll give it to you.
7. the biaggio turbo was Angels, not andrew's if you had problems with it, take it to Angel straight up.

so far thats all i have to say!



Andrew told me he ran the turbo i gave him on his girlfriends/wifes car, which is supposed to be lik paki, ahahha

he told me ed at balanced tuend his car and it put down 813WHP

and andrew is in FL supposidly pickin up a s14 with a rb26, not on a business trip

[SL33P3R]

ANDREW is my hommie and boy you are in some serious shat!!!
1. I have the t3/t67, the SC34 turbo was mine. if he had took it, i would have already known.
2. The t3/t67 is good, i took it to diesel injec. in forrest park, and its good, it was my fault, the oil was coming from the head. i take the blame on that!!!
3. he aint picking up your calls because hes busy on a work assignment in FL, and also the same reason that MR. KIDD dont wanna talk to you!
4. he never ran the t67 turbo, it has always been in my possesion.
5. his car is not tunned yet, but you rode in it, you know what it can do.
6. the skunk2 strut bar.... we bought it at nopi, do u want a receipt??? i'll give it to you.
7. the biaggio turbo was Angels, not andrew's if you had problems with it, take it to Angel straight up.

so far thats all i have to say!


He said that his wife bought it. I just talked to lik paki andshe said she bought it, but shes not his wife, and now your saying that YALL bought it? Who bought the fuckin strut bar, stop lying, and where the fuck is my strut bar

[HeLLo iM iZzY]

I thought his "wife" bought him the strut bar?

So0o0o0o, whos the lyer?

[soplocar]

He said that his wife bought it. I just talked to lik paki andshe said she bought it, but shes not his wife, and now your saying that YALL bought it? Who bought the fuckin strut bar, stop lying, and where the fuck is my strut bar

cant you understand the words, I CAN PROVIDE RECEIPTS!!!

[SL33P3R]

Ya supposidly his wife did. But he says his wife is lil paki. I got off the phone with her a sec ago, she called me, and she said SHE bought it for him, but shes not his wife, i talked to her brother. Andrew said that his wife had a 834WHP hatch that they sold for $20,000, lilpaki doesnt have that hatch last time i checked

[SL33P3R]

cant you understand the words, I CAN PROVIDE RECEIPTS!!!



BUT YOU DIDNT BUY IT. HIS WIFE LILPAKI DID :lmfao:

[LiL PaKi]

He said that his wife bought it. I just talked to lik paki andshe said she bought it, but shes not his wife, and now your saying that YALL bought it? Who bought the fuckin strut bar, stop lying, and where the fuck is my strut bar

me, jose, and andrew went to NOPI and bought it.. the wife shyt was a fucking joke... and please keep me out of this shyt...

[SL33P3R]

this wife shit isnt a joke, ive known andrew for 4 months now, he said YOU ARE HIS WIFE, and YOU LIVE WITH HIM, THERE WAS NO JOKIN ABOUT IT, SUPPOSIDLY YALL HAVE A LITTLE GIRL ALSO, ANDREW IS A LIAR END OF STORY!!!

so all yall bought it at one time

supposidly his wife bought him the turbo thats on his car now, u do that too?

[Vteckidd]

i dont know if hes telling the truth or not but heres my .02

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET FOR TRYING TO CHEAP OUT ON A CAR BUILD. SOMETIMES CHEAPER IS NOT BETTER.

I NEVER saw the 404 camshafts. Taylor had Mainstream ASSEMBLE his cylinder head with CROWER SPRINGS AN RET AND VALVES. we gave the head back to him, he took it to this cat to be BOLTED DOWN TO HIS NEW HEAD.

all the while Taylor said the head had "port an polish" and a "5 angle valve job" . It was obvious the head was bone stock, it still had carbon buoild up on the exhaust ports so it wasnt even touched.

Taylors car was put back together half assed, we had to fix alot of problems like:
timing belt was 3 teeth off
no vavle adjustment was done resulting in no compression
no IAT sensor
no oil lines

As far as the guy STEALING the camshafts, well his car did have a lopey idle to it, but im not sure if that was from the cams, or 1000cc inj. Crower cams should have markings on them.

where did you buy the crower cams froM>?

[LiL PaKi]

Ya supposidly his wife did. But he says his wife is lil paki. I got off the phone with her a sec ago, she called me, and she said SHE bought it for him, but shes not his wife, i talked to her brother. Andrew said that his wife had a 834WHP hatch that they sold for $20,000, lilpaki doesnt have that hatch last time i checked

gold h22? SOLD... keep outta my business...

[soplocar]

about his personal bussines, im not gonna discuss it with you.
i know that they had a top secret gold hatch with an h22 that she sold for 20k,

[Vteckidd]

GOld H22 hatch that was LOCAL? making over 800whp, i can call ed to verify, i have his home phone number.

Is this the same crew with the K20R ITB 300whp ALL MTOR DEL SOL? LOLOL

[soplocar]

this wife shit isnt a joke, ive known andrew for 4 months now, he said YOU ARE HIS WIFE, and YOU LIVE WITH HIM, THERE WAS NO JOKIN ABOUT IT, SUPPOSIDLY YALL HAVE A LITTLE GIRL ALSO, ANDREW IS A LIAR END OF STORY!!!

so all yall bought it at one time

supposidly his wife bought him the turbo thats on his car now, u do that too?

No, i did.
do you want the full race receipt too!!!

[IntegraXTR]

He said that his wife bought it. I just talked to lik paki andshe said she bought it, but shes not his wife, and now your saying that YALL bought it? Who bought the fuckin strut bar, stop lying, and where the fuck is my strut bar

Now the plot thickens

[LiL PaKi]

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No, i did.
do you want the full race receipt too!!!

ditto...
and taylor... stop getting ur 16 yr old mind all confused... get the facts straight then talk...

[soplocar]

Now the plot thickens

LOL, looks like you are having a blast!!!krucial!:D

[LiL PaKi]

GOld H22 hatch that was LOCAL? making over 800whp, i can call ed to verify, i have his home phone number.

Is this the same crew with the K20R ITB 300whp ALL MTOR DEL SOL? LOLOL

no it wasn't tuned by ed.. it was tuned by CFT in florida... local never drove though...

.. about that k20 itbs we are aiming for 300 but not sure yet... we haven't tuned it yet... yes it's the same crew... :D

[LiL PaKi]

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=95052

^^ so who got Pwned a lil while ago... are u trying to get back at everyone cuz sweety it really isn't working for u..

like i said.. get ur facts straight...

[soplocar]

no it wasn't tuned by ed.. it was tuned by CFT in florida... local never drove though...

.. about that k20 itbs we are aiming for 300 but not sure yet... we haven't tuned it yet... yes it's the same crew... :D


BYT.. FTW, lol

[Vteckidd]

ok i was just amking sure.

but something does sound fishy, either taylor didnt buy what he thought he bought, or someone is stealing his parts.

either way, good luck getting to the bottom of this shit

[drmcivicsi]

damn

[EmminoDaGreat]

mr. kidd to the rescue

[SL33P3R]

ok i was just amking sure.

but something does sound fishy, either taylor didnt buy what he thought he bought, or someone is stealing his parts.

either way, good luck getting to the bottom of this shit


Both, Likpaki, your so full of shit its not even funny, ANDREW TOLD ME THAT HE TOOK YOUR CAR AROUND ATL WITH MY TURBO ON IT, AND YOU SAY THAT CAR NEVER CAME UP HERE, IT WAS ALWAYS IN FLORIDA.



Oh and LILPAKI you did have a h22 with 834WHP?



FIMotorsportsTJM (7:34:20PM): Does your sister have a 834WHP hatch
FIMotorsportsTJM (7:34:26PM):did*
CrAcK PoT DeSi (7:34:40PM): LOL
CrAcK PoT DeSi (7:34:41PM): no




PWNED

[SL33P3R]

oh, and CrAcK PoT DeSi is LILPAKI's brother

[Vteckidd]

I DID have a conversation with Andrew where he claimed MY TURBO (the T3/T67) that Taylor sold him was "burning oil" but yet he is no claiming he never ran the turbo.

someone is lying

[drmcivicsi]

damn taylor i dont like you at all but, but u doing a good job now. atleast u aint the one getting owned this time around!

[SL33P3R]

Andrew said something like this about the t3/t67 i traded him

"We put it on my girlfriends hatch, and it ran fine, but a little laggy" and he mentioned where he took it, and it was smoewhere in the Gnet area, NOT FLORIDA

[Vteckidd]

they are full of shit, if they had a 800whp car, i would know about it.

dont you think its convieniant that they magically sold the car an it never drove?
dont you think its funny how they claim a 300whp Del SOl and its never been dynoed?
this is the same crew that XXEXTxxs12 dude hangs out with. ALl i hear from that camp is "blahblahblah" never any results.

whether the kid stole your cams or not, i dont know, but he is lying about the turbo thats for sure, and i wouldnt trust this lil paki or anyone else either. They seem thick as theives.

[SL33P3R]

Funny thing is, I saw taht andrew was viewing this thread, and he didnt post, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[SL33P3R]

LIKPAKI so you bought andrew the $1,100 FULL RACE TURBO? YOUR SUPPOSIDLY HIS WIFE SO YOU MUST HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR HIM, WHAT A NICE WIFE

[an0therh22]

**grabs popcorn**

[UpSideDownDesi]

sleeper...you talk a lot outta your ass than your mouth. Andrew is a 100% strainght up, trustable person. I have known Andrew for a while and have trusted him nuff to leave my cars with him and at his disposal (without insurance) and got them back perfect (not a part missing). I don't understand that they have reciepts for the stuff they bought and you still don't get it. If you didn't trust him...why did you leave your stuff with him the first place?? If he was doing you wrong...why didn't you pull out the first time...you went back 3 times...even a dumbass will understand the first time that someone is rippin him off?? He has plently of vouches and i am just smelling something fishy from your side. You fucked up and now just want to blame someone else.

[SL33P3R]

All this happen at ONE TIME at my buddies house. IT WASNT EVEN AT ANDREWS HOUSE. It was at BUCKY's HOUSE. I dont even know who you are but you need to just shut the fuck up. Andrew comes off as a real nice guy I know. But Im an easy target. Its easy to steal from a 16 year old girl. HE TOLD ME THAT HE PUT CROWER 404 CAMS IN MY HEAD, I SOLD MY HEAD SAYING IT HAD CROWER 404 CAMS AND IT ENDED UP HAVING STOCK LS CAMS, HE FUCKED ME. Ive had 2 people tell me they saw him walk to his car WITH MY TURBO that night.

Why hasnt he posted then? I saw him looking in here, stay outta the thread, this is a thread for ANDREW, not you. As soon as parts started getting lost, i went to buckys house and took all my parts until it was time to do the install

I didnt fuck up and im not blamming anyone, stop swingin on his nuts

[Vteckidd]

I guess andrew needs to speak up about why:

Taylors head had no 404 cams in it
Why was his turbo stolen

I think taylor needs to have the guy who bought his LS head with 404s post on here as well to state the cams were not 404s

[thepolecat]

**grabs popcorn**:goodjob: :D

[SL33P3R]

Only thing that makes me mad is when i asked him and told him my strut bar was missing after i put it in his matrix, he acts like its no big deal and trys to drop it

But the cam thing is totally shady, he knew they were stock cams all along, i didnt because i was new with hondas and didnt knwo the difference, cams were cams to me

[SL33P3R]

I guess andrew needs to speak up about why:

Taylors head had no 404 cams in it
Why was his turbo stolen

I think taylor needs to have the guy who bought his LS head with 404s post on here as well to state the cams were not 404s

Ya, Im waiting on the guy to get on AIM so I can ask him to register and post the pics and stuff. He isnt a member on here

[SL33P3R]

And for the turbo, according to andrew and MIKE (bucky on the boards) they were the only ones who knew where my turbo was (on the floor board of the passenger seat) they were the only ones, then all of a sudden its gone. Then BUCKY feels responsible and bought a turbo from andrew. So if BUCKY stole my turbo then why would he go out and buy me another turbo? makes no sense, and then Andrew just keeps saying "i dont know what to tell you man" etc. so mike(bucky) bought me another turbo


either way, look at the strut bar incident. where is my strut bar? I PUT IT IN ANDREWS car, and now its gone? and he has no idea where it is?

[soplocar]

yo, taylor and vteckidd, i am the one to take the blame for the t3\t67 turbo, by the way it was not the H.O like taylor stated... it was the regular t67. anyways, i am the one that ran the turbo and it leaked oil, but i i found out that i was not the turbo, it was my head.... now i am the one responsible for it...
now what else do u wanna say?? about your strut bar, we went to nopi one day, me paki and andrew, and we bought the skunk2 bar plus some other things, and i have proff of purchase.
next!!!!!!

[Vteckidd]

ok, lets keep it about the ISSUES. your making this too confusing. he said she said, i left it at a buddies house it wasnt my buddies house, etc.

All i want is :

1) Andrew to come on here an explain politely the allegations that he stole your cams

2) Andrew to come on here an elaborate on when an where your turbo was stolen, and if it was stolen.

3) Id like to know why they claim the T3/T67 was NEVER RAN even though i myself had a CONVERSATION WITH ANDREW claiming that the turbo was bad, and that i ripped him off. THen he said it wasnt MY fault.

4) Id like a receipt posted for the Strut Bar in question.

5) Id like the person who purchased Taylors head to come on here, and post that the cams he got were indeed NOT 404s .

Other than that, please keep the posts to a minimum. I will be checking LOG IN times, if Andrew logs in an reads this thread an doesnt respond, then i will take that to be an admission of guilt.

If no receipt is posted for the strut bar, i will take that as an admission of guilt.

If a response is given that conflicts with Taylors reasoning, then i will consider this issue over with an delete the thread.

[UpSideDownDesi]

He comes up as a nice guy because he is a nice guy. Ever wondered that the person who bought head prbly fucked you over... head had 404, but BSed you it didn't??? Oh my bad you are 16...still in maturing stage..don't wry you'll hit VTEC soon lol. HMMMM 2 ppl saw him walk to his car with a turbo....damn they must have digital zoom in there eyes to idetify it from a distance (or where they escorting him??) or see your laser etched name on it right?? Now can you tell me why are you basing your BS story on "what people said or saw"......i see lotta people walking around with parts and put it in their cars...does it mean they stole it?? I guessing he hasn't posted because of your cryin lil ass who just doesn't understand and is basing his story from "What people have told you". As we all know if we start believing on "What people say" won't it be a great world. Well here's one for you.... someone stole my parts... funny thing is "they saw you walk outta Bucky's house with them...they looked EXACTLY like my parts. So i guess you got my parts huh?? Let me make a thread about you now. Hahah "This thread is about ANDEW, not you." So i guess i don't have the right to take a honest person's side. Seeing is believing son or daughter...whoever you are. Well guess what... you rant doesn't change a shit about him...i still trust him. Tank you, come again.

[Vteckidd]

yo, taylor and vteckidd, i am the one to take the blame for the t3\t67 turbo, by the way it was not the H.O like taylor stated... it was the regular t67. anyways, i am the one that ran the turbo and it leaked oil, but i i found out that i was not the turbo, it was my head.... now i am the one responsible for it...

Ok that clears that up.



now what else do u wanna say?? about your strut bar, we went to nopi one day, me paki and andrew, and we bought the skunk2 bar plus some other things, and i have proff of purchase.
next!!!!!!
Please scan or post the receipt from NOPI so we can close that issue as well.

[UpSideDownDesi]

ok, lets keep it about the ISSUES. your making this too confusing. he said she said, i left it at a buddies house it wasnt my buddies house, etc.

All i want is :

1) Andrew to come on here an explain politely the allegations that he stole your cams

2) Andrew to come on here an elaborate on when an where your turbo was stolen, and if it was stolen.

3) Id like to know why they claim the T3/T67 was NEVER RAN even though i myself had a CONVERSATION WITH ANDREW claiming that the turbo was bad, and that i ripped him off. THen he said it wasnt MY fault.

4) Id like a receipt posted for the Strut Bar in question.

5) Id like the person who purchased Taylors head to come on here, and post that the cams he got were indeed NOT 404s .

Other than that, please keep the posts to a minimum. I will be checking LOG IN times, if Andrew logs in an reads this thread an doesnt respond, then i will take that to be an admission of guilt.

If no receipt is posted for the strut bar, i will take that as an admission of guilt.

If a response is given that conflicts with Taylors reasoning, then i will consider this issue over with an delete the thread.
good post

[SL33P3R]

Ok, even a receipt wont clear up the strut bar issue, I put it in andrews car and BOOOM its gone, and andrew has NOOOOOO idea where it went

The guy i sold my head to is sending me my cams and cam gears back, he is legit, he took pics of my cams next to stock LS cams and they are stock. he sent pics of the cams to crower and crower said if they dont have the part number or CROWER on them, they arent crower. He also said he took it to a machine shop and measured the duration and lift and they were the same specs as stock

I called him, he is goin to register tomorrow, and post pics of my cams that i sent him, and then when his crowers get there, he is gonna post pics of CROWER 404 cams

[SL33P3R]

I never said that Andrew STOLE cams from me

He told me he had some 404's he was gona put in there

and i sold the head saying it had a full crower valve train with 404 cams, it did have a crower valve train minus the cams, and i sent the guy the head, and he told me they were stock cams, and i had to pay 400 out of pocket so he wouldnt use paypal to get all his money back from me. so basically i got fucked by andrew, and then i fucked the guy over i sold them too, then i got fucked again because i had to pay him 400 bucks, but the cams i sent him ar eon the way back to my house

[UpSideDownDesi]

I never said that Andrew STOLE cams from me

He told me he had some 404's he was gona put in there

and i sold the head saying it had a full crower valve train with 404 cams, it did have a crower valve train minus the cams, and i sent the guy the head, and he told me they were stock cams, and i had to pay 400 out of pocket so he wouldnt use paypal to get all his money back from me. so basically i got fucked by andrew, and then i fucked the guy over i sold them too, then i got fucked again because i had to pay him 400 bucks, but the cams i sent him ar eon the way back to my house
i just think you are making this shit up or the guy to whom you sold ur head to..... just gonna pop some stock LS cams and say "yup these are the one's my head came with". Why didn't you get the head checked before you sold it?? A smart person will get everything check after they get something done and time they are selling something. Like you don't believe Andrew how are suppose to believe you?????
P.S Even a dumb ass noob can tell diff between stock cam gears and after market :2cents:

[SL33P3R]

i just think you are making this shit up or the guy to whom you sold ur head to..... just gonna pop some stock LS cams and say "yup these are the one's my head came with". Why didn't you get the head checked before you sold it?? A smart person will get everything check after they get something done and time they are selling something. Like you don't believe Andrew how are suppose to believe you?????
P.S Even a dumb ass noob can tell diff between stock cam gears and after market :2cents:

Im not talkin about cam gears you fuckin noob, im talkin about the CAMS, NOT CAM GEARS

I will admit, andrew loaned me the cams and he told me when i got the money i could pay him, and supposidly they were CROWER 404's and i sold the head, and ended up having to pay 400 dollars for stock LS cams :rolleyes:

[Vteckidd]

http://forums.importatlanta.com/showthread.php?t=79412&page=4&pp=20


in that thread alot of "im getting XXXXXX" were claimed by taylor, but never happened.

so whose to know what actually happened, if you didnt buy your parts from a STORE an they werent BNIB, and now your saying that andrew LOANED them to you, you never even paid for them, i consider this matter closed.

Seems like you need to learn who to trust or do business with.

It would be different if you bought brand new cams, had a receiept, had this guy install them, then you sold the head an there was stock cams in it.

but now, the word is that you BORROWED some cams, that were 404s, and they ended up bineg stock. so you never paid for them in the first place.

sounds like the noob is you man, sorry.

LET THIS BE A LESSON TO ALL, DO NOT CHEAP OUT ON A CAR BUILD, TAKE IT TO SOMEONE WHO IS REPUTABLE AND WHO YOU CAN TRUST. IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUALLY IS.

LOCKED because the truth will never be known.

[SL33P3R]

It doesnt matter dude, MY STRUT BAR IS MISSING, PERIOD

[SL33P3R]

I want andrew to post, he was lookin in this thread

[BTEC]

ill post in here. what now?

[SL33P3R]

me 2

[Vteckidd]

they say they have a receipt for the stut bar.

But if this the case, you have had your car back for some weeks now, why wait until now to talk about it? why wait WEEKs later to bring it up?

[SL33P3R]

You need to keep this up so andrew can post mike, Just let it stay open, either way, my strut bar is missing, and he has NO idea where it is, thats a problem and i want this thread to stay open

[SL33P3R]

they say they have a receipt for the stut bar.

But if this the case, you have had your car back for some weeks now, why wait until now to talk about it? why wait WEEKs later to bring it up?

I asked him liek 2 days after i got it back, when i realized it was missing, and he had no idea where it was, and seemed like he didnt care

then i found out about the cams


and with the cams, i know he loaned them to me, but he lied to me about the cams, and then i sold them as i was told they were, and got fucked and had to pay 400 bucks, so thats shady

[Vteckidd]

its called BUYER BEWARE not seller BEWARE.

you should have known what you were buying

[SL33P3R]

Well i asked where was the crower stamping and he said "Some have them some dont" and i said " oh, i thought they all did" and he said "no" so i trusted him

[sohcd16y8]

Ok everyone, I was the one who bought the head from taylor and will give the whole story about what I got. When I took off the valve cover the first thing that struck me was the cams. They did not say crower on them or anything. I asked taylor about it and he said that some crowers or not marked. Now I was unsure of this so being the OCD guy i am i took them to a machine shop and had them gauged along with some stock ls cam I had. They were EXACTLY the same. SO then I was like WTF and called up tuners choice and had them pull some off the shelf to check them. The crower cams on the shelf not only had the name crower stamped in it, but also the part number. So then I called taylor and told him everything and he got me my money back and I shiped the cams back out. Now some of you may be thinking, hey, taylor prolly switched them out and is blaming someone else. I highly doubt that howver because everything else was as described. The valves, springs, retainer, intake, dist, where exact and those he all bought new. Th eonly thing that he bought from someone else was the cams, and thats all that there was a problem with. And seeing as he was unsure at first and that this seller has had a problemedd past I find it very likely that he lied and screwed taylor.

Props to taylor for being a good guy and taking care of his customers.

Here are the pics of the cams I got and stock Ls cams. I will post up pics on wed or thurs when I get my genuine crower 404's in and show how they should have been

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/ando1441/DSCF0689.jpg
The only diff between them at all is the top part of the cam, you can see that the stock one on the right has a lil ridge in it, whereas the "crower" on the left does not. Other then that they are exact. Hell the "crower" even has the factory 75 IN on it.
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/ando1441/DSCF0690.jpg

[IntegraXTR]

so......next?

[Vteckidd]

im not debating that YOU didnt get 404s, what im saying is:

Taylor BORROWED some cams from some guy. THe guy said they were 404s. Obviously they were not, but taylor never paid for them in the first place so.,...

you didnt get scammed, you got your money back, Taylor , whether he was scammed or not , only he an Andrew know. So there is no proving who did what to whom. and i find it odd that he is speaking up now WEEKS after he has had his car back.

What im saying is, if someone said to me "here is some ITR cams i had laying around, pay me for them when youy get some money". i take those cams, and just turn around an sell them to someone else for $400, an the new seller says "these arent ITR", whose fault is it?

Why didnt Taylor try to take care of this in person , why make a call out thread? something on BOTH sides doesnt sound right, someone isnt telling the whole truth, and with Taylors track record, i guess we will never know.

LOCKED.

[SL33P3R]

Thakns for posting Andy

[Vteckidd]

again this whole thread is based on 2 peoples words, and hear say. there is no proof on either side, its a he said she said.

so i would beware of both parties LOL

[Vteckidd]

To me it sounds as if taylor got screwed out of the camshafts, but he never paid for them in the first place? so did he really get screwed? maybe andrew was mistaken about what cams they were. i guess only he an andrew will ever know the truth.

as far as the strut bar goes, Taylor says Andrew stole it. Andrew says he bought it.
Taylor has no proof, Andrew has PMed me a NOPI receipt of the strut bar being purchased.

Taylor, learn who you should trust an do business with, and next time, get shit in writing. otherwise your just as liable as the people you claimed scammed you.

Andrew, dont deal with minors, cause if you are telling the truth then this is one big headache from a kid that you shouldnt have dealt with anyways.

Good luck to both of you.

[Vteckidd]

BUMP

[Vteckidd]

See andrew youve had some threads posted about you lol.

This one was about selling cams that werent what you claimed they were.

In the end there was no proof so i locked it and blamed both you an taylor, but maybe there was some truth to this after all

[SL33P3R]

BUMP, even though this whole thread mike was against me :(

[Vteckidd]

I wasnt against you , i blamed both of you

[SL33P3R]

But now you see who the real shady ***** ****ing ***** ***** thief

[Dracc]

why the fawk did chris lock the other thread.. can you say mod abusing power to protect friend

[Vteckidd]

i unlocked it, he will not be locking anymore threads

[©hris]

Hey the point was made. People said what they think and it's there for others to read. Im sure there is enough feedback for people to make a decision on doing business w/ Andrew or not.

[Vteckidd]

yeah an it stays open because when you lock it, it falls to the bottom of the page.

DO NOT LOCK THIS THREAD the point HASNT BEEN MADE

[Dracc]

i unlocked it, he will not be locking anymore threads



uhh oh :no::cry:

[©hris]

I think people get the idea.... everyone posting is getting off-topic and is talking about AISHA, BYT, his dyno #s, and purple ****ing elephants.....


I do not think AISHA, BYT, or the elephants deserve to be slain for no reason

[wantboost]

so you locked it because it showed byt and your friends in a negative light? :ninja:

[Dracc]

I think people get the idea.... everyone posting is getting off-topic and is talking about AISHA, BYT, his dyno #s, and purple ****ing elephants.....


I do not think AISHA, BYT, or the elephants deserve to be slain for no reason



aisha byt and the numbers are all relevent to the situation for the simple fact they all deal with Andrew on a Daily basis.. and if thats the case they and her came to his side didnt they not.. IE you being apart of BYT.... so if all this has to be brought up to prove a point this by any means...

thats like bashing a strip club for having watered down beer and not mention the strippers son.. we want to know everything before we pass judgement

[B18c1Turboed]

I do not think AISHA, BYT, or the elephants deserve to be slain for no reason

Then she should have kept her mouth Shut!!! she stepped in the dog **** and now she smells like it,not are fault!

[©hris]

damn im craving a cheeseburger.... *leaves*

[Dracc]

damn im craving a cheeseburger.... *leaves*


and you talk about us being off topic :lmfao:

[Whiteboy™]

dayum.

[dickdragon]

damn, some shady a$$ folks here!

[Dracc]

this is bacc from the dead

[Tech5]

hey didnt I see this car on I20 broken down under the bridge ???
dayum.

[Tech5]

by the way..... why dont yall kiss an make up, lil paki why dont you marry me !

[Dracc]

hey didnt I see this car on I20 broken down under the bridge ???


yes that was his camo beast with the turno b18c5